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Dave Crow

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« Reply #330 on: November 20, 2013, 01:55:49 PM »
Will new brasses have to be made, or can they be babbit-lined to fit the turned pins?

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« Reply #331 on: November 20, 2013, 02:30:55 PM »
Will new brasses have to be made, or can they be babbit-lined to fit the turned pins?
I belive the plans call for new rod bearings.
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« Reply #332 on: November 20, 2013, 05:42:28 PM »
If Jason and crew, whom have my deepest respect for because they're doing it the right way, will build new brasses to insure a tight fit and proper alignment.

Well done guys - the video is awesome!  Keep doing it right, even if it takes a little longer.  Quality is job one!
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« Reply #333 on: November 21, 2013, 06:54:17 PM »
Next pin was going to be tomorrow but will need to wait for my bronchitis to settle down... Hopefully we'll continue Monday.  I won't be able to be at the RR at all till then.

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« Reply #334 on: December 10, 2013, 10:34:53 PM »
Jason and Jonathan working on the fireman's side rear driver Monday 12/9/13.



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« Reply #335 on: February 05, 2014, 09:58:13 AM »
Here's a bit of video of the process...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofewm4EOUR0&feature=youtu.be

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« Reply #336 on: February 08, 2014, 09:51:03 PM »
Pictures from today 2/8/14. I'm going to post the pictures and Jason is going to add the captions. Hopefully we can do this on a regular basis to keep everybody updated on number 9's progress.

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and a shot down the steam dome.

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« Reply #337 on: February 08, 2014, 10:23:52 PM »
Ok- I'll try to keep up.

Pics 1-5 show the new rear truck swing links.  When we got the engine in 1995, it sat too high by several inches.  Harry and Zack arranged and had made new hangers around '98, which helped a lot.  Turns out- the length that they figured on was based on no 9's then bent frame; when applied with the now new, straight frame, we one again found the engine too high in back.  So, we made new ones again.  The original hangers had pins running sideways, weakening the bar and necessitating a much heavier bar than otherwise needed.  (They were 1 1/2" by 3").  This time we opted for a thinner, 1" bar, which we pinned through the end of the hanger.  To trap the pin, we "mortised" a slot in the hangers to receive a nut.  Jonathan St Mary was a major part of this job, and gets extra credit for taking the time to neatly radius all 8 ends of the 4" wide bars.

Pics 6-7 show a tidy little strap that Eric Schade and I forged up to hold the hand brake reach rod off the truck.  The original solution?  Let it ride on the truck- bending as the truck swung for curves.  There's also a little forged hanger at the front of this rod (not pictured) to keep it running true.

Pics  8-15 show the various components of our grate shaker.  This got tricky as the original shaker location is now blocked by a frame crosstie- this crosstie used to be bolted to the boiler backhead but got moved back a few inches as part of the frame/boiler separation redesign.  This required a new shaker location- nicely figured by Gordon Cook and others at the fall work weekend.  We then had to devise a way to make up for the new lateral offset in the gear.  We ended up pivoting a bar from the mud ring on the engineers side, through the shaker bar (forged up from 3/4" round bar), and out to and in line with the shaker.  Works nicely- good group effort with Eric, Jonathan, and myself pushing this along. Also seen are the new ashpan slotted mud ring studs that Jonathan made.

Pics 16-17 show how much of a smithy Eric is becoming- both are forged handles which will ultimately actuate the damper doors on the ashpan.  Portland company arranged these front and back- with solid side walls on the ashpan, with pull out trays on the bottom to dump.  We will reproduce this design of ashpan- fitting around the grate shaker apparatus we added.

Pics 18-20 show the new rear jacket standoff made by Leon.  This is the most decorative of all the standoffs as it will be seen in the cab.  It is thicker around the radius to clear the flexi stay sleeves and caps.  This also accentuates the keyhole look a bit.

The remaining pics show a smokebox effort- today Gordon C and I started figuring out the header, steam pipes and spark arrestor.  Most of it can be rescued- including the screen, believe it or not.  You can also see the templates for the boiler jacket that Wes Carpenter has been charging ahead on.

We've had other shop help as well- JB Smith, Greg Klein, Zack, Keith Taylor, Ed Gilhouley, Brendan, who am I forgetting?  Just yell at me...

Upcoming- we have been focusing on rear end work so we can give Zack the ok to deck the rear frame.  That should commence shortly.  We will focus on side rods, jacket template , front end, and will be thinking about a steam test.

Thanks, Brendan for the pics.  Let's keep it up.

Questions are welcome!
Jason

(Edit:  grammar, and picking 'an' for Brendan- first version had both that and 'en' just to cover all the bases...)
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« Reply #338 on: February 22, 2014, 06:25:24 PM »
Today,

The new pilot beam was cut to length in the garage.  The beam was then taken over into the Percival house cellar and cleaned up.  The next step was to coat the beam with boiled linseed oil which was done by lunch time.  The beam will stay in the celler for a few days so the oil can soak in and a second coat will be applied, probably next weekend.  Once the oil treatment is complete, the beam will go to the shop and drilling holes will be the next step.  There are quite a few holes needed including the ones that fix the beam to the locomotive and the front coupler pocket to the beam.

 

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« Reply #339 on: February 22, 2014, 07:12:59 PM »
Great pics and update. I really appreciate it

Thanks

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« Reply #340 on: February 24, 2014, 09:24:52 PM »
Really neat photos. Very nicely explained. You guys are certainly a talented bunch!
I have a couple of questions; first, what is that red handled valve in the side of the boiler, just behind the smokebox? I think it shows best in photo 22.
My second question is: Are you restoring the vacuum brake system? I'm guessing yes.
Thanks for the hard work. It'll be great to see her run!

John

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« Reply #341 on: February 25, 2014, 07:07:00 AM »
I believe that the valve in Photo 22 is part of the sparking mechanism for the smokebox.  Steam gets inserted into the smokebox to help clean it out.

As for the vacuum brake system - yes we are planning to restore it.

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« Reply #342 on: February 28, 2014, 11:51:45 AM »
I'm a little slow responding, but thanks for the info. I had read about "sparking" the engines but didn't put two and two together and come up with a valve location!
Does #10 have a self cleaning front end? I don't recall seeing her "sparked".
As for the vacuum brakes, I never realized how wide spread the use was. I found some pictures on line of the Boston, Revere Beach & Lynn Railroad and low and behold, there is a brake exhaust muffler sticking out the cab roofs of their Mason Bogies! I believe the Pennsy's Waynesburg and Washington also used the system.

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« Reply #343 on: February 28, 2014, 12:03:02 PM »
#10 does not have a sparking system.  So I'm rather curious as to see how #9's sparking will work, and what kind of a mess it makes afterwards!

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« Reply #344 on: February 28, 2014, 12:09:09 PM »
Well, at least it will be a historically correct mess! Hopefully without any lineside fires of historic proportions!