WW&F No. 9 - Official Work Thread

[Dave Crow]

Dylan, part of the problem with the beam that came with No. 9 from the Ramsdell's farm appears that it prevents the diagonal stays from the smokebox to the beam to be in the proper position.  I seem to remember trying to figure out the proper geometry when marking drill hole locations in the smokebox last year.

I believe Jason told me the existing beam sticks out from under the pilot deck plate and that it should be flush with the front of the plate for protection of the wood.  If Brendan and Dean had not donated a new beam, we would have cut the existing one down to the proper size this coming weekend.

[Stewart "Start" Rhine]

Another thing, the old pilot beam is checked so even if it was cut down to fit the plate it wouldn't look as good as a new beam.

[Brendan Barry]

The beam that was on the engine had a spacer block behind it for some reason that caused the beam to stick out to far. I think if we had removed the spacer block and cut the existing beam down, we would have been into a situation of overlapping hole locations for the pilot to smokebox brackets. Anyhow most of the holes were drilled in the new beam this evening.

[Fred L. Kuhns]

  Brendan, The drill press pictured made a hard job much easier.  Thanks for all the information provided and look forward to the beam being attached to the engine.  Fred L. Kuhns

[Robert Hale]

I saw the pics of #9 outside and it was impressive. Got a question though: When does the boiler time start? (for the FRA inspections).

[Keith Taylor]

I saw the pics of #9 outside and it was impressive. Got a question though: When does the boiler time start? (for the FRA inspections).

The WW&F doesn't currently come under FRA jurisdiction, so the clock doesn't start at all.
The FRA regulations are as follows:
(a) General. Before any steam locomotive is initially put in service or brought out of retirement, and after every 1472 service days or 15 years, whichever is earlier, an individual competent to conduct the inspection shall inspect the entire boiler. In the case of a new locomotive or a locomotive being brought out of retirement, the initial 15 year period shall begin on the day that the locomotive is placed in service or 365 calendar days after the first flue tube is installed in the locomotive, whichever comes first. This 1472 service day inspection shall include all annual, and 5th annual, inspection requirements, as well as any items required by the steam locomotive owner and/or operator or the FRA inspector. At this time, the locomotive owner and/or operator shall complete, update and verify the locomotive specification card (FRA Form No. 4), to reflect the condition of the boiler at the time of this inspection. See appendices A and B of this part.
Keith

[Robert Hale]

I saw the pics of #9 outside and it was impressive. Got a question though: When does the boiler time start? (for the FRA inspections).

The WW&F doesn't currently come under FRA jurisdiction, so the clock doesn't start at all.
The FRA regulations are as follows:
(a) General. Before any steam locomotive is initially put in service or brought out of retirement, and after every 1472 service days or 15 years, whichever is earlier, an individual competent to conduct the inspection shall inspect the entire boiler. In the case of a new locomotive or a locomotive being brought out of retirement, the initial 15 year period shall begin on the day that the locomotive is placed in service or 365 calendar days after the first flue tube is installed in the locomotive, whichever comes first. This 1472 service day inspection shall include all annual, and 5th annual, inspection requirements, as well as any items required by the steam locomotive owner and/or operator or the FRA inspector. At this time, the locomotive owner and/or operator shall complete, update and verify the locomotive specification card (FRA Form No. 4), to reflect the condition of the boiler at the time of this inspection. See appendices A and B of this part.
Keith

Ok, so there are still required state boiler inspections? Just curious.

[Keith Taylor]

Ok, so there are still required state boiler inspections? Just curious.

Robert....yes the boilers on the WW&F come under Maine State jurisdiction and are subject to periodic testing and licensing.
All of the engine crews are licensed by the State or Maine.

Keith

[James Patten]

While we are not under FRA jurisdiction with respect to steam, we still plan to follow the 1472 day rule regarding boilers and tubes.  This will probably start when the State boiler inspector comes to inspect #9's boiler once the engine is complete.

[Paul Crabb]

Here (I hope) are a few pictures of #9 being re railed and moved to Bay 2;

Ready to be on the rails:

Coupling up for move outside

Outside:

Fully Outside:

Now in Bay 2

[Mike Fox]

Compare these photos to the one above. Marcel finally got the roof to a level he can work on it. He was busy today removing ash from the tongue and groove joints.

[Craig "Red" Heun]

Wow! Great pics!  Thanks

You Guys are have done amazing work! I wish I was a $illionaire and was able to be the Patron so none of you had to work and could play WW&F all the time

[Fred L. Kuhns]

  Mike,  What type of material will the new roof be on the cab? Great pictures of all the work going on at museum. Thanks, Fred L. Kuhns               

[Marcel Levesque]

As little as possible will be replaced of the roofing material.  Most of the lumber is very viable except for the bolt anchor points.  Much of the surrounding wood in this area is rotted and very soft.  The existing t&g pine boards will be reused in different locations to use as much as possible and to keep structural integrity, basically to keep the roof panel from racking and to provide new material at the anchoring points.  It is not a good idea to have many joints next to each other.  The area on the engineers side showing repairs done previously will be reused or redone exactly as it was before disassembly.  There is some Douglas Fir in this area and will be reused.

[Bruce Mohn]

What color was the roof originally?