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Re: December 2016 Work Planning
« Reply #60 on: December 18, 2016, 01:12:07 PM »
Very nice, Hansel.

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Re: December 2016 Work Planning
« Reply #61 on: December 18, 2016, 03:12:51 PM »
View from 9's cab...
It was pretty cold in the morning but 9 was still warm from the fire up on Wednesday, so it wasn't too long before we got some steam. First casualty from the cold was the vacuum brake valve, which had frozen in the time she was outside. A little of Zack's blow torch and we fixed that.
Other than that, fire up went well, Wes Carpenter was the fireman, and we headed up to the north yard switch and backed down to the enginehouse lead where Fred was waiting with coal. We topped off the bunker and returned to the yard switch which wouldn't close for the main. After some fussing and kicking Jason came up and advised us that was the way it was, kicked the handle closed, and away we went to couple up to our train.
Getting the first train with the 3 coaches and 554 out of Sheepscot was interesting. I opened the throttle and she slipped, which necessitated taking slack and then we got moving. Clearly the cold coach journals and the snow on the rails were going to make a fun day. With the johnson bar in the corner and plenty of throttle, 9 would slip and catch,  slip and catch. Finally past the water tower she settled down to a hard pull, spinning over Jane's Way crossing before catching again and marching up to Davis. Up to that point I had trouble getting much of a roll on the train before the slipping took over but hoped things would improve before we got to Sutters and Cockeye Curve.
Just at Davis, we felt a serious thump, I looked at Wes, and he looked at me, and shortly we got a stop from Josh, who was braking on the coach behind us. We found out a coupler between 554 and the Bridgton coach has released, so the diesel came up and grabbed the caboose and took it back to Sheepscot.

With the 3 coaches it was a little easier and we hit Sutter's at a good pace. Cockeye Curve quickly slowed us again to a steady slip and catch all the way to Sheepscot Mills. Sometimes 9 would slip constantly so the drivers were spinning a little too fast for the actual speed, but would hold there and not get out of hand. (You can hear this in Hansel's video) At this point I was starting to gain a little confidence that I could leave the throttle open and she wouldn't completely lose her feet, and could control her more with the johnson bar.
Past Hummason we got up a little speed and we hit the grade in pretty good shape, proceeding from Trask to Alna at a slow but steady pace, barking loudly.

That was the worst trip, but on all but the last trip with just two coaches I felt like we were pretty close to the maximum we could handle on Cockeye curve. Wes did a great job on the fire and we didn't get below 100# all day. 9 likes a heavy exhaust and actually it's a little easier to keep steam up as long as you shovel fast enough.  

The other interesting feature was that the vacuum brakes were much, much less effective with the combination of cold and snow. This made spotting the engine at the water tank and stopping for the station pretty exciting.

Thank you to everyone who made this all possible. It was certainly a real Maine winter event.




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Re: December 2016 Work Planning
« Reply #62 on: December 18, 2016, 03:30:03 PM »
Thanks Gordon for the nice note for the away crowd!  Happy Holidays to all NG fans.

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Re: December 2016 Work Planning
« Reply #63 on: December 18, 2016, 03:35:17 PM »
Some years, while riding and chasing the Cumbres & Toltec trains on the 4% grade from Chama up to Cumbres Pass, I noted the engineers never touched the throttles. Even when the engines slipped on the Route 17 crossings, they never touched the throttles. As needed, they would adjust the Johnson bar momentarily, but otherwise allowed the forward momentum of the train to carry them past the slippery spot. I've observed the same at Cass, too, though I noticed the engineers there occasionally would hit the sander valve to keep going.

Thanks for that great description from the right-hand side, Gordon.

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Re: December 2016 Work Planning
« Reply #64 on: December 18, 2016, 03:44:48 PM »
Does #9 not have sanders, or are they not operational at this time?
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Re: December 2016 Work Planning
« Reply #65 on: December 18, 2016, 06:44:51 PM »
#9 has forward sanders, but in the snow all sanders tend to clog up with snow and freeze.

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Re: December 2016 Work Planning
« Reply #66 on: December 18, 2016, 08:57:23 PM »
Don't I remember that No. 9's sand pipes are between the drivers, providing sand under one set of drivers no matter which way the engine is running? No doubt, though, that the ends of the sand pipes were clogged with snow.

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Re: December 2016 Work Planning
« Reply #67 on: December 18, 2016, 09:23:05 PM »
52 had the same trouble southbound. I slowed per slow order for cockeyed curve, and on the second or third trip, was never able to recover the speed and crossed Brook Crossing at a snails pace.
Davis Grade was slick every trip after that. I tried several times, feathering the throttle to regain traction, but eventually settled on to what Wayne said. Leave the throttle alone, which in my case was wide open from Sheepscot Mills to Brook Crossing.
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Re: December 2016 Work Planning
« Reply #68 on: December 18, 2016, 09:27:29 PM »
Congratulations, Gordon and Mike, for meeting the challenges Ma Nature threw at you yesterday, and thanks for the descriptions!

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Re: December 2016 Work Planning
« Reply #69 on: December 18, 2016, 11:31:21 PM »
View from BRV B&SR coach #11...

The train Saturday started out as WW&F locomotive #9, museum coach #8, W&Q coach #3, Boothbay Railway Village's B&SR coach #11, and Brian Fanslau's Edaville caboose #554.  

Gordon and Mike provided nice descriptions of their experiences in the locomotives.  I was one of several brakemen on the train Saturday.  I was on the southern end of B&SR coach #11, coupled onto Edaville caboose #554 on the train's first run from Sheepscot.

Conductor Jonathan St. Mary was taking passenger counts (from south to north) on the first train north, and as he was crossing from caboose #554 to coach #11, the coupling let go between the coach and the caboose a little bit south of Brook Crossing.  The safety chains did their job in keeping the caboose attached to the train.  Jonathan went forward to alert the engine crew, while brakemen relayed a stop signal to the engine crew.  I was impressed how quickly we stopped -- the train stopped just north of the crossing.  Nice job by Jonathan, Eric, Dave, Josh and the #9 engine crew for quickly responding to the situation.

Since we didn't immediately know the cause of the problem, we decided to cut off #554.  Mike was following behind on #52, so he could take the caboose back to Sheepscot.  I asked the handful of passengers on #554 to move to #11.  They kindly agreed to do so.  We then continued north to Alna Center after Mike coupled onto #554 and took it south.

This was the first run of the day.  WW&F #9 struggled to get us over the grade through cock-eye curve, but the engine crew did the job and got us through.  It was an impressive show to see from the south end of the train.  From my perspective the runs the rest of the day were easier, but the #9 crew's viewpoint might differ!

For the last trains of the day, #9 ran around the train at Alna Center.  Everything was fine other than the south switch, which wouldn't lock for the siding.  It took four of us to persuade the east point to settle into place in the cold.

It was a nasty day weather-wise -- temperatures in the teens and a moderate snow storm all day.  Our visitors were what -- about a third or a bit more than that in 2015? -- but from what I saw families were having a great time.  I did feel badly for Santa and his wife in their cold lean-to at Alna Center!  I am grateful this is the first time I could volunteer for Victorian Christmas.

Saturday provided me a small glimpse into the experience of winter operations of the Maine two-footers 100+ years ago.  We're fortunate we have the opportunity to recreate this.
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Re: December 2016 Work Planning
« Reply #70 on: December 19, 2016, 07:26:55 AM »
Thanks for that, Bill. And thanks to everyone who braved the cold and snow to make the day a success.

Happy Holidays to all!

Cheers -- Wayne

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Re: December 2016 Work Planning
« Reply #71 on: December 19, 2016, 07:46:12 AM »
OK time for my view from the ground.  Mike, Josh and I assembled the train in the morning.  Temps were hovering around zero.  Nothing wanted to couple up, it seemed.  There was a lot of drag and stop, and hope that the coupler caught.  It took over an hour to get the train assembled.

In the afternoon around 3 it was time to start preparations to put stuff away.  Eric and I went to clean out switches.  Since before that time there had been no run-arounds, none of the switches had been cleaned out.  When the train returned, 9 set out a car, then took a 2 car train north, leaving 52 behind.  We turned 52 on the turntable and went to put stuff away.  By 4 we had managed to get the two cars put away.  Couplers were more cooperative this time around.

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Re: December 2016 Work Planning
« Reply #72 on: December 19, 2016, 08:33:46 AM »
Don't I remember that No. 9's sand pipes are between the drivers, providing sand under one set of drivers no matter which way the engine is running? No doubt, though, that the ends of the sand pipes were clogged with snow.

Wayne, #10 has the sand pipe in between the two drivers. #9 has the sand pipe in front of the front driver so that both wheels get sand when traveling forward. This is how the engine was built, so that was the way it was restored.

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Re: December 2016 Work Planning
« Reply #73 on: December 19, 2016, 10:40:02 AM »
The snow was really packed in all around the drivers, rods, and valve gear. Between the steam, snow, and cold oil, it was just about impossible to effectively oil the valve gear.
I tried the sanders but couldn't tell much difference. Probably either none was getting to the rail or the 1/4" of snow on the rails rendered the sand ineffective.
The brakes were pretty useless. The good news was that the rolling resistance was enough to stop the train reasonably quickly.
It's hard for this desk jockey to imagine running a train in those conditions day after day. Experience would help a lot, but still a tough, tough job.
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Re: December 2016 Work Planning
« Reply #74 on: December 19, 2016, 10:57:38 AM »
It's time for a report from the Alna Center station agent. First of all, a big note of thanks to Stewart Rhine and Greg Klein for their help in herding the visitors over to the boarding area ("boarding lounge?") on the east side of Alna Center sufficiently in advance of train arrival to allow clear space on the west side for arriving passengers. The arrivals-to-the-west / departures-from the-east system worked very well. All loading and unloading took place at the crossing, but could have easily been accomplished in more parallel fashion had passenger volumes required it.

Low passenger volume also permitted the use of a single train pulled north by 9 and south by 52, eliminating the need for run-arounds. The one exception was the last trip, where Number 9 was used in both directions thanks to shovel work at the switches by Bryce Weeks, Dan ,Buczkowski Malkowski, and Rider Strano.

In the toasty warm station, visiting children created Christmas ornaments guided by craftspeople Laura Rochette, Virginia Blake, and Norman Blake. Outside, children enjoyed visits with Santa Steve Zuppa and Mrs. Santa Kathy Zuppa, but the main attraction (as in previous years) was sliding down the stone and gravel piles left in preparation for future work further north.
 
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