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« Reply #75 on: August 17, 2010, 11:48:13 AM »
Just an FYI the distributor is a Bosch 007?(seems there are many more types), the 009s is famous for VW's and turns the opposite way. I'll check a site to see if they have a solid-state kit for it.

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« Reply #76 on: August 17, 2010, 02:24:05 PM »
Thanks,  Dave. I think we all were disappointed about Saturday, and both Ric and I, being seasoned (or just old) engineers, just knew that it had to be something simple.

Robert,
I not sure about which distributor it was, but the basic design is the same as the ones I was used to. I think the differences were in the centrifugal advance curve. I do know that the rotation is counterclockwise. With the manual advance, the actual timing less critical than the usual application. The conversion kit was a 'Texas T' and the instructions are online if you are interested.
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« Reply #77 on: August 17, 2010, 08:02:34 PM »
I also want to thank Rick and Gordon for putting much time and talent into getting the railcar running.  The problem is in no way a reflection on Leon's work.  He did an absolutely beautiful job on the car.  The distributor conversion was done per the instructions (as Gordon stated) and Leon had the engine running a number of times at his place .  It is possible that the distributor assembly vibrated loose when the car was run in the yard that morning.  No, the car didn't operate for visitors on Saturday but I think things turned out well anyway.  Saturday, coach 3 got most of the attention and Sunday the Model T was the star as it was photographed in a number of places around Sheepscot Yard.  There was even a quick photo op at the South end of the mainline, next to the station.  This shoot featured the car posed with the headlights on low beam.  That was the only time the lights were turned on.  The turntable demonstration was also a popular photo op. 

The bottom line is that museum now has a very valuable railcar ... and a number of members who are darn good at working on it. 

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« Reply #78 on: August 18, 2010, 09:32:43 AM »
Unfortunately we had to head back south before the final modifications were completed so we never saw it running.  To just see it completed even if not running was worth the drive from CT.  I saw Leon and thanked him for his effort to make the car a reality - but he said "But it's not running!"  I said "...yet!" as I knew the fine talents around the WW&F would work out the problems. So now I thank Gawdon and Rick and any of the others who helped to get the bugs out.   
Any set schedule when it will be operating?

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« Reply #79 on: August 19, 2010, 07:21:39 AM »
A couple from Florida stopped at the railroad yesterday. They wanted to see the railcar and get photos of it for their son who heard that the car was at Sheepscot.  The son works in NY City and couldn't make it to the picnic.  Looks like the news of the Model T has traveled.

As to operating the car - There is a minor problem with an oil leak that must be fixed before the car can go out of the yard.  Once the leak is fixed the car will be in revenue service.  There is no slot in the current Timetable to run the car unless it takes the place of a steam train but there is room to dispatch the car as an extra, running to AC between the carded trains.  When a schedule is set the info will be on the web site and in the Newsletter.  For visiting members, the Fall work weekend will be a good time to ride and photograph the car. 

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« Reply #80 on: August 19, 2010, 06:37:43 PM »
This just in ...

Jason and Roger repaired the oil leak this afternoon.  Jason advised that he will test the railcar this weekend.  The car will be run up the mainline with stops at various places to check the repair.  If everything is OK the car will be run to AC and possibly to EOT with turning being done at the last crossing.

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« Reply #81 on: August 29, 2010, 07:41:41 PM »
  Today was very hot, above 90.  Despite the heat, the railcar ran well, making a number of trips to Rosewood crossing.  The first trip was the first revenue run the car has made.  It happened like this:  Only 2 passengers, (a fellow and his young daughter) showed up for the 10:00 o'clock trip.  There was a brief discussion between the steam trains crew and the railcar crew as to who would take them.  We asked the man if he wanted to ride in the railcar and he said his daughter would love to.  It was decided that the Model T would take the passengers out on the steam trains time slot and run as far as Rosewood crossing, north of milepost 7.  The car was facing north so the Model T worked it's way through the yard switches and out on the mainline.  Once past Jane's Way crossing we went into high gear.  We slowed to a near stop for each crossing but made good time going north.  During the trip the passengers were told that they were the first paying riders on the railcar which they were pleased to hear.  The layover at RC was only long enough to jack and turn the car but the visitor recorded the operation to show the rest of his family.  He told us "this is great I've never seen anything like it".  We returned to Sheepscot with a very happy father and daughter.  Another trip was run as an extra to take Dwight and his weed cutting equipment up past AC. Some of the regular volunteers rode along to get acquainted with the car. In the afternoon, a man show up just to get a ride on the Model T.  He had come to the picnic and was disappointed at not getting a ride.  He told us "I figured you guys would have the bugs worked out by now"  His ticket was the first sold especially for the railcar.  


Joe and Gordon did their usual expert job running the steam train and a number of meets were held at AC with the northbound railcar taking the siding as the superior train worked through going south.  We didn't have large crowds but today was a great day for the WW&F.

As stated in a previous post, regular trips are not scheduled yet because there is no place in the Timetable for the railcar.  It will most likely run as an extra when it is needed or requested, operating under the authority of the dispatcher.   
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« Reply #82 on: August 31, 2010, 09:03:58 AM »
Glad to hear the good news on the railcar.  Just hearing it running was a treat but the "yard ride" made our detour well worth it.  Hope to take a longer ride next in September.  Congratulations to all that made it possible!

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« Reply #83 on: September 08, 2010, 08:20:55 PM »
All, I've uploaded a brand new video clip featuring the new Model T Railcar, to the RailwayVideo.org site: http://railwayvideo.org/modeltrailcar.html

Enjoy!
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« Reply #84 on: September 12, 2010, 06:36:55 PM »
To clarify one item in James' report.  The railcar does not have magnetos, they were removed because the car has electric start.  The part in question was the ignition coil which was getting hot because it was mounted directly on top of the engine block.  Saturday morning Jason made an extension bracket to move the coil away from the block and more towards the radiator.  The new bracket was installed and the railcar seems to run smoother with the coil in it's new location.  There is other news on the railcar - see the railcar thread.

Other work - Today, Dave Crow cut more weeds north of Sheepscot Mills crossing.  At this point the entire line is just about done except for Cockeye Curve. 

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« Reply #85 on: September 12, 2010, 07:04:06 PM »
Bill, It was good to see you and the Mrs at Sheepscot today... hope you enjoyed your trip on the railcar. 

Today was an interesting day because the first Combo Tickets were sold.  Combo Tickets are a special ticket that the Board designed to give visitors more ride options.  For an additional $4 passengers can ride a regular train and railcar trip. (Example: Regular fare is $6 for adults so a Combo ticket is $10).  Sale of the new tickets started today and the afternoon saw 6 visitors take both trips.  Another first was transporting a handicapped person on the railcar.  The visitor came to ride the Model T and we didn't want to disappoint him.  We took the car to the south end of the mainline track to carefully board the guest.  When everyone was set we ran to Rosewood crossing to turn the car.  We had the fellow stay in his center seat and turned the car just as easily as any other trip.  The guest was very happy to get the "extra" ride.         

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« Reply #86 on: September 12, 2010, 08:52:31 PM »
Maybe next Spring we could host a gathering of the "T's" at Sheepscot and invite the the antique cars folks to also attend.  It would be great to see all four of Maine railcars operating.  Its possible that it could be an annual event.  Old cars and trains seem to go together.

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« Reply #87 on: September 12, 2010, 10:40:50 PM »
Thank you so much!

I have ridden the Edaville car at Edaville and at Alna; now my wife and I will be able to ride another one that actually belongs to the WW&F Ry Museum!

With skilled volunteers like this it is really believable that some day there will be a WW&F #11 which now only exists as a pair of driving wheels.

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« Reply #88 on: September 13, 2010, 05:50:36 AM »
To clarify one item in James' report.  The railcar does not have magnetos, they were removed because the car has electric start. 

Stewart, if the magnets were removed, how is the oil distributed through the engine? Model T's don't have oil pumps and they depended on the oil being slung around by the magnets on the flywheel throwing the oil around in the crank pan. Were vanes added to the flywheel where the magnets were formerly located? And I'm not sure why you would remove the magneto because of "electric start." The 1920 Touring that I used to have had magneto ingnition and electric start. You would start the car on the battery then switch to the magneto once the engine was running.
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« Reply #89 on: September 13, 2010, 06:05:59 AM »
Yes, coil not magneto.  Not an engine guy so I don't know much about them.