Author Topic: TCDA No. 65 (Reefer) - Official Work Thread  (Read 313673 times)

Jason M Lamontagne

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Re: Reefer 65 - Official Work Thread
« Reply #150 on: May 21, 2012, 07:57:01 PM »
We have been planning a small-scale operating event involvng the reefer just prior to its departure to Wiscasset.  The scope of this event will be simple- not really targeting the general public though not exclusive- and probably short notice.  We had hoped it would be this weekend but this is now unlikely as the car is not yet roofed.  We hope the car is in Wiscasset by Father's Day; as such we hope the photo event will be one of the prior two weekends.  Sorry for the vague-ness, but we hope to settle this question soon and let everyone know.

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Re: Reefer 65 - Official Work Thread
« Reply #151 on: May 23, 2012, 06:00:00 PM »
Milk car work has been a bit quiet this week but a few things were done.  The floor now has a complete prime coat of gray base with the last 1/3 done Monday.  Top coat (anti-slip) paint may be done next week. The outside sheathing has had top coat touch-up work on 3 sides.  This was done Monday afternoon and the weather turned humid with periodic rain on Tuesday.  Because of the dampness, the paint has not set up.  It was humid with more rain today and the forecast has high humidity with a chance of showers through Saturday.  I mention this because as of this evening, there are a number of wet/tacky spots on and in the car.  I won't be at the railroad this weekend so if any of you are going to be in the shop please ask visitors to keep back from the car.  There is a sign at the south end.  Also, with the chance of rain, the car should not be pushed outside this weekend.    

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Re: Reefer 65 - Official Work Thread
« Reply #152 on: May 29, 2012, 05:44:00 PM »
Today, car 65's floor got the final/top coat of paint so the basic interior is complete.  Display items will be next, with some probably being installed at Wiscasset.  There is a plan to put the ice and water shield covering on the roof this weekend.

A couple of weeks ago there was a visitor with the NMRA Charter group that came over to look at and photograph Car 65.   She said that she has been interested in Maines dairy industry for years and has studied some of the operations.  She added that she has collected quite a few quart milk bottles.  She said that she knew of raw milk being shipped by rail to the Turner Centre plant in Wiscasset and wondered if any finished products were shipped back on the TCDA cars when they returned the empty cans.  I told her that I was not aware of any products being shipped North on the cars but that it was possible.  I mentioned that products like butter may have been shipped to some of the larger stores along the line.  The Erskine General store at Whitefield, Hilton Store at N. Whitefield and the York General Store at Windsor would have been places that butter or whole milk may have been shipped. 

There are no way bills, etc. to show finished dairy products being shipped on the TCDA cars but it makes sense.  It also raises questions - if products such as butter were shipped, were the car(s) iced in Wiscasset for the trip north?  Was there a special arrangement with the TCDA or the stores to handle finished products in the milk cars that would normally have just empty cans?  Should CAR 65 have a couple of quart milk bottles included in it's display?

If anyone has information on finished dairy products being shipped on the TCDA cars please let me know.

Thanks,  Stewart     
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Re: Reefer 65 - Official Work Thread
« Reply #153 on: May 29, 2012, 06:32:49 PM »
If you ever need to display "full" milk bottles, here's a trick I learned.

You wash out a milk bottle and after it dries, you fill it up to the bottom of the neck with ordinary white flour. Pour it in a little at a time and tamp it down with a round dowel as you go.  Pack it nice and tight. When you have reached the neck, stop.  Then, to make it look like the cream has risen to the top of the milk, you fill the bottle the rest of the way with yellow cake mix, tamping it down as you go until it's all the way to the bottom of the rim.  Then put in a cardboard bottle cap (available as reproductions), and you're done.  It has the look and weight of a real quart of milk. It won't spoil, turn colors or anything.

If you need to create "chocolate milk", just substitute packaged brownie mix for the white flour. 

I learned this from a fellow who had a restored DIVCO milk delivery truck on display at a car show. He had several wooden milk crates in the back with incredibly realistic bottles of milk. So I asked him how he did it, because it looked so much better than the tiny white foam plastic pellets you usually see. He said his wife actually came up with the idea. I went home, tried it, and it looks terrific. Try it.

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Re: Reefer 65 - Official Work Thread
« Reply #154 on: May 30, 2012, 06:38:38 AM »
Fantastic!  Only question is how did attendant open the door from the inside?  Or did the original #65 have different door locks.
Here's a wild guess - the window could be opened and the attendant could reach the latch?

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Re: Reefer 65 - Official Work Thread
« Reply #155 on: May 30, 2012, 07:41:08 AM »
We don't know if the windows on cars 65, 72 and 73 opened since all the photos show the windows closed.  If the windows did open they would have been hinged to open inward since the exterior frame covered part of the sash.  The windows on new #65 do not open because Zack set a slight incline in the sills to drain water away from the sash.  The sash is cut to match the sill and held in with 1/2" moulding.

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Re: Reefer 65 - Official Work Thread
« Reply #156 on: June 01, 2012, 05:37:47 AM »
Hi,
I was at an auction on Wednesday and bought a TCS 8 quart milk can . It is marked TURNER CENTRE REGISTERED. It also has 2 brass tags, one with fill to here info and one with the TCS logo.  It is in pretty good condition except for a few holes in the bottom. I will bring it over when I get a chance.

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Re: Reefer 65 - Official Work Thread
« Reply #157 on: June 01, 2012, 12:10:06 PM »
Hi Erik,

Sounds like a good find, I look forward to seeing it.  The TCS cans may have been used to ship raw milk from the company farm to the creamery or to ship processed whole milk out to schools or stores.

This week -  Trim painting was done on the doors.  The top and edges of the sheathing were painted with top coat.  Also, the door hold backs were installed on both sides of the car so the doors may be secured in the open position when the car is moved.

On Wednesday a group of college students on a bicycle tour from Portland to Rockland stopped by the museum.  Steve Z. gave them a complete tour including the inside of the water tank building.  They were thrilled to see everything and stayed for about 2 hours.  One of the fellows told us that his Maine DOT bicycle tour map showed the museum on Cross Road but didn't have the name or any other information.  

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Re: Reefer 65 - Official Work Thread
« Reply #158 on: June 02, 2012, 02:55:03 PM »
June 9th, is the planned/proposed "closed" photo session with car 65. Any one know the time the freight will leave at? By closed, I mean unadvertised. Ed Deere, I don't know if you have gotten my messages about the freight, but you are more than welcome to come, and hope you, or some of your other video-ographers can attend.

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Re: Reefer 65 - Official Work Thread
« Reply #159 on: June 02, 2012, 05:08:13 PM »
Joe, I'm your engineer for the day and was asked by Jason that we have the engine ready by 8 AM.

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Re: Reefer 65 - Official Work Thread
« Reply #160 on: June 02, 2012, 08:09:54 PM »
We are indeed planning a photographic special involving the dairy car next Saturday morning, June 9.  Most activity will probably be at Alna Center, focused on recreating operations involving the milk car on a daily basis on the original railroad.   Regular trains start at 10AM, which will also be steam, for BIW day.  The steam special in the morning is conditional on weather, ice and water sheild installation, and all hands on deck to move the car.

The car will be loaded Saturday afternoon and moved Sunday morning to Wiscasset, if our plan comes to fruition.  

I'll be in touch with our various train crew members seperately with operating instructions per the usual routine.  

Hope everyone who is interested can make it!

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« Reply #161 on: June 03, 2012, 05:17:29 PM »
Zack is going to call the roof contractor to see if he can work on the car this week.  If the tin man can get to OZ Sheepscot, car 65 will have a finished roof by Saturday.  If not, the car will be run Saturday with the ice and water shield on top.  The car will be transported to Wiscasset Sunday morning and the tin roof installed down there at a later date.  The interior is complete with ice bin, lamp and milk cans.  This weekend will be the only time interior photos can be taken before the glass wall is installed to protect the exhibit.  When the car goes to Wiscasset it will be kept locked until the glass wall is built in one end and photos and maps put up in the rest of the car.  As mentioned in a previous post, the town wants to have a dedication/grand opening ceremony on July 4th so we will have a month to get things ready.  After July 4th the car will be open to the public every day.

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« Reply #162 on: June 04, 2012, 07:09:42 PM »
Car 65 had the ice and water shield underlayment applied to the roof today.  Zack advised that the tin contractor will not have all the metal for the job this week so the car will run Saturday with just the black coating on top. 

Visitors from Oklahoma stopped by the museum today.  They wanted to learn about the Maine two-footers and chose Sheepscot to get their information.  They toured the shop and were impressed with #10.  They took photos of the locomotive and the grandson posed in the cab in one view.  The railcar was next and there was quite a discussion of how railroads adapted autos and trucks for track maint, etc.  They also examined the milk car and commented "That is a beautiful car" while taking a number of shots of the interior and exterior. 

Later, a bit more sorting was done on stock for "Freds" bolt bins.

Stewart

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Re: Reefer 65 - Official Work Thread
« Reply #163 on: June 05, 2012, 07:51:06 AM »
I have to work on Sunday and won't be there to witness the move through downtown Wiscasset.
It would be GREAT if a couple of people could get shots of the car moving to the waterfront...
Especially passing in front of the Rundlett Building, if that ends up as part of the route...
Passing by Red's Eats would be nice too...crossing the Maine Central Eastern...

Just a thought...

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Re: Reefer 65 - Official Work Thread
« Reply #164 on: June 05, 2012, 04:26:28 PM »
What time will the train leave on Saturday with the car?