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Rick Knight

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Re: B&SR 7
« Reply #90 on: November 21, 2012, 09:43:02 PM »
To answer Terry's question. To keep the budget affordable I was making every effort to focus on the boiler which we had farmed out to Jason and Brian. The Boiler work had been progressing steadily as they had time and we had funds. And then we had the fire which was a terrible set back. Now we had no work space and a locomotive that had been burned. The fire was the hottest just beside the firemans side of the tank. Basically everything from the floor up was damaged from the fire. As emotionally hard as it was we managed to pick through the remains of the end of the engine house saving what we could and clearing the mess. Basically the steam team took a deep breathe and dug in and rebuilt the end of the engine house into a workable space. Back to # 7. Luckily we had insurance that covered the loss of our hand tools and the tender/tank replacement. After getting the enginehouse usable we dug in on # 7 replacing all the steel from the frame up. We were in the process of duplicating the cab even to the point of test fitting the original roof. We were pushing that project forward virtually every weekend with a core group of the steam team. The boiler needs some finish welding, all the staybolts installed, and all the tubes installed. All the plumbing will need to be new. The cab needs to be finished. The new smoke box needs to be finished. I would say about a year and a halfs work with a core group of experienced steam team volunteers.  I also want to mention that the chassis/running gear of #7 is in very servicable shape. I learned on that engine at Edaville, was one of the last people to run it at Edaville and ran it at Portland, it is the "mercedes" of existing two foot engines. take my word !!!                      Rick.
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Re: B&SR 7
« Reply #91 on: November 23, 2012, 09:59:10 AM »
The real story is that we need to raise additional funds to finish the job (contractor costs have gone way up since we started the project). So at this point we can not commit funds to finish the boiler. We are on a fundraising campaign. We are looking at doing some of the boiler work back in Portland in order to close the funding gap.

#7 was not worked on very much last year as we had to focus on #4. We replaced 26 staybolts, all with volunteer labor except for the welding. This took many work sessions. Most recently, we have spent time going over #4 and everything involved with steam for Polar Express. We have had tremdous growth in steam volunteers in the past year, with many new, younger faces showing up, willing to learn. We filled our steam roster for Polar Express during one lunch period.


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« Reply #92 on: November 23, 2012, 08:21:23 PM »
Was the work being performed at cost plus? I am trying to understand why contractor costs would have gone way up other than the price of steel which is currently dropping.
I would of thought it would have been a straight lump sum with work considered out of scope performed at cost plus upon approval.

I looked on the website but I don't see any way to donate specificly to the the No. 7 restoration?  Is there a dedicated fund?

Thanks!



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Re: B&SR 7
« Reply #93 on: November 23, 2012, 08:35:27 PM »
I received a fundraising letter today from MNG which specifies that they are now turning their sights back on #7.  The letter claims they want to raise $100,000 for the engine's 100th birthday, then states they've already raised $75,000.  So are they trying to raise another $100K or just 25K?

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Re: B&SR 7
« Reply #94 on: November 23, 2012, 10:54:17 PM »
Terry,
And others interested in donating, all the donation boxes in the museum go to general stuff (whatever needs money the most). BUT anytime the steam crew is around, there is a box on the inside doorway of the shed. I also recommend talking with a ticket agent. As James mentioned, I herd President Jerry say today he wants to raise 100k for 100 years!

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« Reply #95 on: November 24, 2012, 09:28:43 AM »
Ok, I'm confused......another $100,000.00?  How much was in the original restricted fund?  Where did the $75,000.00 go?  Is that a number that they had on hand?  That would have bought a brand new boiler and then some.  We're getting into "full size" price ranges here, and I'm starting to get very confused.  What if I don't want a donation to go to "general stuff" and the steam crew isn't around?  I guess I have to ask the same question as Terry.  Is there a "restricted" fund for #7?  And are we getting into these prices because she now has to be part #230 compliant and have a full form 4 and 1472? 
How many train crew men does it take to screw in a light bulb?
None, that the shop crew's job...

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A conducter!

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« Reply #96 on: November 24, 2012, 01:17:24 PM »
Answers: Yes, we have spent $75,000 to date. Yes, there is a restricted fund for #7. Yes, knowing what we now know, we should have had a new boiler built. Our contractor has been working on a time and materials basis and we have had significant scope growth could not be detected until it had been taken apart. So, $100,000 is as follows: $50,000 to finish the boiler and $50,000 to reassemble the the engine. We are working on ways to possibly reduce the cost, but we have to set a target at this point based on contractor input.

Hope that answers everyone's questions. As we all know, steam is not cheap.

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Re: B&SR 7
« Reply #97 on: November 24, 2012, 10:20:08 PM »
Thanks Hans.

Please add me to the chorus of those who would like to donate to the #7 dedicated fund.

A PayPal link on the MNG web site is found at:
http://www.mainenarrowgauge.org/donate/
If one specifies #7 Fund in the notes of the donation, is that sufficient?

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Re: B&SR 7
« Reply #98 on: November 25, 2012, 10:46:52 AM »
Ed,

Yes, that is sufficient. We have a separate bank account for restricted funds. Within that account we keep categories (#7, car rebuilding, snow plow rebuilding, etc.). Everyone's donation is recorded on a spreadsheet that is used for deposits into that account. At all times we know who donated to what fund, when it occured and how much is in the account for the given project.

Thank you for your support. We have just completed our first weekend of Polar Express with great success (see this morning's Maine Sunday Telegram). #4 is doing a great job but it would be great to get #7 back on the point.

Happy Holidays,

Hans

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Re: B&SR 7
« Reply #99 on: November 25, 2012, 03:25:40 PM »
Here's the link to the item Hans mentioned.

http://www.pressherald.com/news/with-magic-_2012-11-25.html

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« Reply #100 on: November 29, 2012, 08:38:00 PM »
I wish you guys all the best raising the extra $100,000.00 for #7 and the estimated $3,000,000.00 for the move.  I hope that the costs for #7 can be rained in a little bit to help you out.  Congrats on the sucsess of the "polar express" trains, and the reported addition of all the new steam volunteers.  I honestly hope it all works out for the betterment of the collection. 
How many train crew men does it take to screw in a light bulb?
None, that the shop crew's job...

What do you call a train man who steps on a live 3rd rail?
A conducter!

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Re: B&SR 7
« Reply #101 on: December 29, 2012, 03:55:37 PM »
I am pleased to announce that after winterizing #4 today, we switched the locomotives so that #7 is at the "west" end. This is where we work on loco's. there will be a "big push over the winter".

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Re: B&SR 7
« Reply #102 on: December 29, 2012, 07:26:27 PM »
Thanks Hansel. Please update us when you can.
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Re: B&SR 7
« Reply #103 on: February 26, 2013, 04:42:49 PM »
There in now a Facebook Page for Engine 7.

https://www.facebook.com/BridgtonSacoRiverEngine7Rebuild

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Re: B&SR 7
« Reply #104 on: April 29, 2013, 05:11:25 PM »
I made a quick visit yesterday and saw #7's frame was painted black and the rods looked cleaned up. The MNG crew preformed a test hydro and prepped for the real hydro in front of the FRA (which will be in the new future).