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Norway, Maine Historical Society - June 2024 Newsletter
« on: June 09, 2024, 12:10:37 PM »
On page 5 of the newsletter, an article from the March 8, 1939 edition of the Boston Post. The article titled "Locomotive Brings Heat to Two Shoe Plants After System Breaks Down".

An illustration of a steam locomotive next to a massive factory is captioned, "Locomotive Heats Two Factories" with the description of the photo describing " old 2611, once the pride of the Grand Trunk Railroad in Maine, has been pressed into service to heat shoe factories where 1,100 employees had been put out of work when the heating system went bad".

The article then states, "Norway, Maine, March 7 - A Canadian National Railway locomotive late today began providing heat for the plants of the Norway and B.E. Cole shoe companies after the dual heating system of the plants had been disabled for several days. Failure of the system threw 1,100 employees out of work and threatened to cause cancelation of large orders of spring shipments. Officials of the firms negotiated with the railway and today a large locomotive arrived to meet the emergency. It was run along a spur track to the factories. Employees will go back to work tomorrow morning".

My own thoughts and a question follow, your comments welcome.

First, the Norway Historical Society has a set of Sanborn Insurance maps that show all.of the nearly one mile long "Norway Branch Railroad" trackage and businesses served by this line (which ran off the Grand Trunk main in South Paris).

The maps are fascinating to view.

I read recently that the old rail of the Norway Branch was used when the Maine Narrow Gauge Railroad Company & Museum laid rail along the former Grand Trunk right of way in Portland harbor.

The Norway Historical society has a few snapshot photos of rail being removed in the early 1980's and stacked.

Much of the Norway Branch right of way can be walked. You can begin at a small parking area behind the Norway Police and Fire department garages and hike out towards the connection with the G.T.

While it was not unusual for old locomotives to be used as stationary boilers, my question is how was the locomotive typically plumbed into a heating system? Live steam from the steam dome or hot water from a washout or boiler blow down connection. If anyone suffering through this lengthy mess, would like to add particulars of plumbing, pressure restriction valves or any other information that would illuminate how the mechanical connections might have been made, I'm all ears...
Wanted: Copies of correspondence and photographs from "first generation narrow gage railfans" such as Linwood Moody, Dick Andrews, Lawrence Brown, Ellis Atwood, H.T. Crittenden and others. Interested in all two foot (U.S.) rail operations, common carrier, industrial/mill and park/museum.

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Re: Norway, Maine Historical Society - June 2024 Newsletter
« Reply #1 on: August 27, 2024, 07:46:27 AM »
The use of live steam or hot water from the locomotive's boiler highlights the ingenuity in overcoming such crises.

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« Reply #2 on: August 27, 2024, 02:49:34 PM »
The use of live steam or hot water from the locomotive's boiler highlights the ingenuity in overcoming such crises.

I am leaning towards the use of hot water, drawn from the boiler blow down. With a pressure regulating device installed, hot water could then be manifolded into the building heating system.  Opinions to the contrary are very welcome, please...if you know, comment. Thank you.
Wanted: Copies of correspondence and photographs from "first generation narrow gage railfans" such as Linwood Moody, Dick Andrews, Lawrence Brown, Ellis Atwood, H.T. Crittenden and others. Interested in all two foot (U.S.) rail operations, common carrier, industrial/mill and park/museum.

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« Reply #3 on: August 27, 2024, 04:11:54 PM »
Photos at these two links suggest that piping was added to the steam dome of these stationary boilers [formerly mobile locomotives]:

https://livinghistories.newcastle.edu.au/nodes/view/93800
http://www.trainsarefun.com/lirr/Steam%20Sounds/PRR-L1s-8283%20as%20Stationary%20Boiler-Wheelspur%20Yd-LI%20City%20-%20c.%201956%20(Keller).jpg

Here is the site for the 2nd photo: http://www.trainsarefun.com/lirr/Steam%20Sounds/Steam%20Sounds.htm
... scroll down to see it in context, along with an additional photo.

On this one, piping was added (apparently) through the smokebox.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/44544845@N08/8572222576/

As I understand the situation, traditionally, actual 'steam' was the desired output even for heating buildings. Steam will move through a distribution piping system without pumps, so it was preferable to ordinary 'hot water'. A pump might be needed to return condensed steam [water] to the boiler.
More here: https://www.energy.gov/energysaver/heat-distribution-systems
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« Reply #4 on: August 27, 2024, 04:53:59 PM »
Photos at these two links suggest that piping was added to the steam dome of these stationary boilers [formerly mobile locomotives]:

https://livinghistories.newcastle.edu.au/nodes/view/93800
http://www.trainsarefun.com/lirr/Steam%20Sounds/PRR-L1s-8283%20as%20Stationary%20Boiler-Wheelspur%20Yd-LI%20City%20-%20c.%201956%20(Keller).jpg

That photo of the Pennsy 2-8-2 lays it out. Lagged piping from the steam dome and extended stack. Great find, thank you!

Here is the site for the 2nd photo: http://www.trainsarefun.com/lirr/Steam%20Sounds/Steam%20Sounds.htm
... scroll down to see it in context, along with an additional photo.

On this one, piping was added (apparently) through the smokebox.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/44544845@N08/8572222576/

As I understand the situation, traditionally, actual 'steam' was the desired output even for heating buildings. Steam will move through a distribution piping system without pumps, so it was preferable to ordinary 'hot water'. A pump might be needed to return condensed steam [water] to the boiler.
More here: https://www.energy.gov/energysaver/heat-distribution-systems
Wanted: Copies of correspondence and photographs from "first generation narrow gage railfans" such as Linwood Moody, Dick Andrews, Lawrence Brown, Ellis Atwood, H.T. Crittenden and others. Interested in all two foot (U.S.) rail operations, common carrier, industrial/mill and park/museum.

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« Reply #5 on: August 27, 2024, 06:08:24 PM »
As a LIRR fan I appreciate the images of the PRR L1s 2-8-2s used as stationary boilers at Wheelspur Yard in Queens, NY. They were a well known curiosity that lasted for several years after the end of steam as motive power on the LIRR in 1955, used to provide steam heat for passenger coaches laid up in the yard between runs.

Here is a color photo that shows the location of the three 2-8-2s next to the coach yard http://arrts-arrchives.com/images2/002l1swsyd1.JPG

and clearly taken from the LIRR lift bridge at Cabin 'M' on the Montauk Cutoff: http://arrts-arrchives.com/images2/000Mopen.JPG.

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« Reply #6 on: August 28, 2024, 04:24:25 AM »
As a LIRR fan I appreciate the images of the PRR L1s 2-8-2s used as stationary boilers at Wheelspur Yard in Queens, NY. They were a well known curiosity that lasted for several years after the end of steam as motive power on the LIRR in 1955, used to provide steam heat for passenger coaches laid up in the yard between runs.

Here is a color photo that shows the location of the three 2-8-2s next to the coach yard http://arrts-arrchives.com/images2/002l1swsyd1.JPG

and clearly taken from the LIRR lift bridge at Cabin 'M' on the Montauk Cutoff: http://arrts-arrchives.com/images2/000Mopen.JPG.
  Thank you Phillip, great find!
Wanted: Copies of correspondence and photographs from "first generation narrow gage railfans" such as Linwood Moody, Dick Andrews, Lawrence Brown, Ellis Atwood, H.T. Crittenden and others. Interested in all two foot (U.S.) rail operations, common carrier, industrial/mill and park/museum.