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Bryce Weeks

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Re: So. African Hoppers 2806 and 2807 - Official Work Thread
« Reply #105 on: November 21, 2024, 10:48:57 AM »
So as of right now the red hopper is staying as it is for use of "flooding new track with stone" when the rebuild of the grey hopper commences it will be for "spot ballasting"  but it will take some time to rebuild it for that purpose..
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« Reply #106 on: November 21, 2024, 10:54:58 AM »
I have some thoughts Bryce I will catch you with sometime..
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Re: So. African Hoppers 2806 and 2807 - Official Work Thread
« Reply #107 on: December 03, 2024, 12:19:41 PM »
The current issue (Issue 326 November 22-December 20, 2024) of Heritage Railway, a UK-based magazine, contains on pg. 24 a news item describing modifications to another of these ex-SAR 2' gauge ballast hoppers at the Vale of Rheidol Railway, in Wales.

"The significant upgrade, carried out in-house at the railway's workshops, included a comprehensive overhaul and the installation of an unloading mechanism designed to enhance operational efficiency. The updated system now allows ballast to be discharged both along the rails and outside the track, providing greater versatility and precision."

An accompanying 3/4-view photo shows that the as-built central discharge control wheel above the end platform has been replaced by two smaller side-by-side control wheels, each connected to what appear to be enclosed chain mechanism extending down below the platform deck.  Furthermore, there now appears to be two separate discharge chutes visible below the side sill, suggesting that similar control wheel modifications have been made at the opposite end of the car so as to create four independently-controlled discharges, each capable of dumping ballast inside or outside of the rail as needed.  In addition, given that the new control wheels are located outside the prominent angled car end structural members, some operator safety improvements have been added, with side handrails at each operating position as well as conventional end railings.  These side and end railings together also appear to greatly facilitate access to the platform via the corner stirrup steps.

I don't have time at the moment to fool around with photo hosting sites etc., but I could email a copy of the magazine photo to anyone involved in the proposed WW&F hopper modifications, or perhaps some other member who receives this magazine could post a photo.  It's possible that further details and photos might be able to be obtained through inquiry to someone at the Vale of Rheidol Railway, if any WW&F member has a contact there.
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Re: So. African Hoppers 2806 and 2807 - Official Work Thread
« Reply #108 on: December 03, 2024, 05:18:26 PM »
It might be worth our while to contact the Vale to see if they have Engineering drawings of the conversion work that they would share or allow us to purchase for a nominal fee.  Much better than having to reinvent the wheel.  The Engineering/Shop forces have enough on their plate.
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Re: So. African Hoppers 2806 and 2807 - Official Work Thread
« Reply #109 on: December 03, 2024, 07:08:49 PM »
The second hopper was unloaded from the trailer this afternoon.
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Re: So. African Hoppers 2806 and 2807 - Official Work Thread
« Reply #110 on: December 03, 2024, 07:53:14 PM »
Some photos, courtesy of Dave B.
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Re: So. African Hoppers 2806 and 2807 - Official Work Thread
« Reply #111 on: December 08, 2024, 06:51:13 PM »
To finesse the Knuckle Coupler/Link & Pin use by a railroad, Climax (the manufacturer of Janney Couplers back in the day) and Climax Mfg. Co. (the locomotive manufacturer) used a Knuckle Coupler with a Slot in the Knuckle. Due to the lesser size, strength & mass on the couplers the railroad is using, that may be unworkable.


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Re: So. African Hoppers 2806 and 2807 - Official Work Thread
« Reply #112 on: December 08, 2024, 11:15:17 PM »
A lot of the railroads equipment have split knuckles, it's how we've been coupling it to equipment with a "bent special link" with the exception to #52 we just remove the coupler and direct link and pin couple it. It works very well. Just need for extra precaution when coupling. (The use of a wooden stick to hold up the link). I'll try to remember to get a photo of our link.
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Re: So. African Hoppers 2806 and 2807 - Official Work Thread
« Reply #113 on: December 09, 2024, 06:06:23 AM »
Here is the photo of the Vale of Rheidol's SAR ballast hopper showing the modifications I described above, which appears in issue 326 of Heritage Railway.  The magazine's photo credit is to Vale of Rheidol Railway. 

Again, it appears that there are now two control wheels at each end, operating what may be enclosed chain mechanisms that allow each of four new discharge gates to independently dump ballast outside or inside of the rail.  Besides the addition of handrails, the inward-angled "coal boards" are an interesting modification.