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Mike Fox

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Re: Track availability
« Reply #30 on: September 23, 2008, 06:17:54 PM »
I will second Ira's guess. It would make good yard trackage though.
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Re: Track availability
« Reply #31 on: September 23, 2008, 07:25:23 PM »
But Oregon's a long way off. Trucking would be a killer.

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Re: Track availability
« Reply #32 on: September 28, 2008, 06:50:44 AM »
It would probably be cheaper to buy new 60# rail from Poland and ship it to Portland.....

Does anyone know how much 60# rail is still available from Kovalchik?  I also seem to recall that there was a pile of it somewhere down in Florida ????
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Re: Track availability
« Reply #33 on: September 28, 2008, 08:20:08 AM »
There are several rail brokers other than Kovalchick who have 60-pound rail in substantial quantities. One I spoke with last year had 24 miles(!) on hand. The problem is coming up with the cash to buy and transport it. A truckload delivered to Sheepscot runs about $24,000 right now, while two years ago, we could get the same truckload for $16,000. A truckload yields 11-1200 feet of new track, so we'll need about 5 loads to reach Route 218, or at least $125,000. This year's entire track budget is $25,000. And getting rail as a donation is a diminished possibility, what with the current economic climate and scrap prices running around $550 per ton.

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Re: Track availability
« Reply #34 on: September 28, 2008, 08:32:05 AM »
24 miles?  hope this isn't a typo.......... whom is it, if that can be disclosed?  We all know this won't last forever......... Just sent my check for the "rail fund".
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Re: Track availability
« Reply #35 on: September 28, 2008, 08:48:44 AM »
A&K Railroad materials, Inc. They are one of the largest brokers of rail materials in the country. If I recall correctly, the rail was from Mexico. That quantity, was just what they had "on the yard" in Birmingham, Ala.  They had more in various locations out west.

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Re: Track availability
« Reply #36 on: September 28, 2008, 05:42:19 PM »
It would be nice to be able to get some one like Norfolk Southern to Donate transport for a few carloads of rail. If we could get it in state, this opens up a whole new strategy for transportation. I might be able to get trucking donated. The closer it is, the easier it will be.
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Re: Track availability
« Reply #37 on: September 28, 2008, 06:33:42 PM »
I know someone who has contacts with a scrapper who has 100 ton gon's.  I'll broach the subject and see if we could get one for a round trip to Wiscasset.  Also, I agree the M&E contacts should be sounded out.  I believe that they also have 1-2 MOW gons of their own.
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Re: Track availability
« Reply #38 on: September 28, 2008, 07:13:54 PM »
I just got an update quote on a truckload(20 tons) this past week from Birmingham Rail Supply....over $24,000!! PLUS shipping.
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Re: Track availability
« Reply #39 on: October 07, 2008, 12:34:59 PM »
Hello, this is first post.   Just a note that steel rail is a very cyclical commodity and subject to wide fluctuations.   Steel has been very high and I'm involved in the industry enough to tell you that things are due for a steep correction, which may lead to some discounts and opportunities ahead.    I know from cofounding the Adirondack Scenic RR  ( another back from extinction operation, although the track was still in place ) that volunteers are few and far between, as well difficult to keep interested and not burn them out.     I don't know if you know, but there might be some 65 and 80 lb rail surplus on the Lowville & Beaver River RR in northern New York.   I used to run trains for them and the line has ben out of service so a number of years.    Keep up the great work!   I as a kid remember crossing the bay at Wiscasset going to my grandparents at Boothbay and vividly remember the pilings of the WW & F sticking out of the mud flats at low tide.

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Re: Track availability
« Reply #40 on: October 08, 2008, 09:34:25 AM »
I need some help here. I noticed in the last newsletter that the GE Foundation had matched a member's donation to the museum. Since I work for GE, I'd like to get my track fund donation matched. If the GE employee is on the forum, I'd appreciate it if you'd contact me via pm.
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Re: Track availability
« Reply #41 on: October 08, 2008, 10:27:11 PM »
We have 4 friends and members already getting their gifts matched by GE Foundation. Justy google GE Foundation, and fill in the employee/retiree data. or go to gefoundation.com.
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Re: Track availability
« Reply #42 on: November 07, 2008, 11:24:09 PM »
Hi.
I don't know if any of you have heard but scrap prices have crashed in the last few weeks.  Scrap steel that here in the midwest last spring was bringing $265 per ton is now down to $20 a ton. YES Twenty dollars a ton. It may soon be a good time to buy a lot of rail, or maybe to get a donation of "unsuitable" rail to trade for good rail. Just throwing that out for what it's worth.

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Re: Track availability
« Reply #43 on: November 08, 2008, 06:53:11 AM »
Why not trade the 70 pound rail we have for the 60 pound rail Kovalchick has?

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Re: Track availability
« Reply #44 on: November 08, 2008, 07:04:03 AM »