Author Topic: Understanding locomotive/rolling stock ownership nomenclature  (Read 3809 times)

Benjamin Richards

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I wonder if someone could explain to me the difference between "former" and "ex-" as used when describing locomotive/rolling stock ownership.

For an example from our own newsletters, see July/August 1994:

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The highlight for June was the visit of the former SR&RL, and ex-Edaville Model T Railcar Number 2...

I have also seen such things as :

ex-PC 18402, exx-LV 95112 (description of a CR caboose)
ex-ABC 10, exx-PDQ 43, exxx-HAL 315, former XYZ 7 (example made up, but I've definitely seen this many levels)

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Ed Lecuyer

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Re: Understanding locomotive/rolling stock ownership nomenclature
« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2020, 09:44:07 AM »
LIKE! Yes, I've always wondered about that.
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Wayne Laepple

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Re: Understanding locomotive/rolling stock ownership nomenclature
« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2020, 10:04:04 AM »
I've always preferred the ex-, ex-, ex- or X-, XX-, XXX- nomenclature to the use of "former" especially when their are multiple previous owners. But that's just me.

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Re: Understanding locomotive/rolling stock ownership nomenclature
« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2020, 11:42:59 AM »
The ex is simple, last owner. Exx is the owner before that and so on. Someone can follow the lineage of a locomotive that way. Nee is new or originating railroad I believe. I just wish that there was a standard way of using the terminology..
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Philip Marshall

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Re: Understanding locomotive/rolling stock ownership nomenclature
« Reply #4 on: May 08, 2020, 12:04:29 PM »
"Nee" (actually née) is originally from French meaning "born as", used to indicate a woman's maiden name. (Trains are female, after all.)
« Last Edit: May 08, 2020, 12:07:14 PM by Philip Marshall »

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Re: Understanding locomotive/rolling stock ownership nomenclature
« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2020, 08:10:41 PM »
Awesome Philip. I have learned something new today.
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James Patten

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Re: Understanding locomotive/rolling stock ownership nomenclature
« Reply #6 on: May 09, 2020, 06:15:32 AM »
"We are no longer the knights who say 'nee'!"
(sorry about that)

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Re: Understanding locomotive/rolling stock ownership nomenclature
« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2020, 07:54:50 AM »
In French we use ex but  never exx or exxx although it looks practical. As regards the adjective " née" it's only used for a woman in the way Philip said.