Author Topic: OMG! You can get Moxie in PA......  (Read 26792 times)

John Kokas

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Re: OMG! You can get Moxie in PA......
« Reply #45 on: November 22, 2022, 07:13:17 PM »
Actually, I am relieved that Orca is making Moxie the right way.  Looks like I'm no longer needed to bootleg Moxie from PA.  Good thing - Those Revenuers are getting faster and faster cars and it's only a matter of time before they catch up to my hot rod truck.   :o ::) ;D 
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Re: OMG! You can get Moxie in PA......
« Reply #46 on: November 22, 2022, 08:08:24 PM »
I swear Orca Moxie tastes more like Coca Cola Moxie than it does Catawissa Moxie. It's a blend between the two, but almost like 2/3rds Coke, 1/3 Catawissa.

And on another note, The Way Way Store in Saco, Maine sells Catawissa Moxie by the case ($30 for 24 bottles) or by the bottle ($2.5 per bottle or so). How they get it I have no clue.

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Re: OMG! You can get Moxie in PA......
« Reply #47 on: November 23, 2022, 01:04:37 PM »
Interesting observation Dante.  I know from speaking directly with the Catawissa owners that the syrup they use to make their Moxie has the same ingredients and proportions that was used back in 1923. (year of the bottling agreement)  If your claim of a different taste from Orca is true, and I have no reason to doubt you, then someone is "cheating" on the formula.  Now as far as $30/case for Catawissa Moxie, that is actually very reasonable considering the cost of transportation these days.  Since cheap Diesel is now over $6.25/gal here in PA, I would not be surprised that prices will be going up again.
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Re: OMG! You can get Moxie in PA......
« Reply #48 on: November 23, 2022, 06:17:18 PM »
The Catawissa Moxie is $18 a case at the bottling plant, so $30 for a case in Saco isn't that bad (I was charging $25 a case when I made 2 trips in April that essentially paid for my gas to\from the plant).

I think the Catawissa Moxie uses a little bit less of everything. It tastes more subdued than either of the alternatives. Not as sweet, and certainly not as bitter. It's something I can drink even when it's warm, which is not something I can say about the Orca or Coke varieties.

The only difference between the Orca\Cornicopia Moxie and the Coca Cola Moxie (other than the bottle\can difference) that I can discern is the cane sugar\corn syrup. The Orca doesn't have the same cloying mouthfeel that the Coca Cola version has.

(*note: I can't seem to find the corroborating evidence to suggest this is actually the case, but bear with me for a short story.)

Supposedly at some point in the soda jerk days when Moxie was still popular, the formula was tweaked to either increase the amount of genetian root extract (the thing that gives Moxie it's "distinctively different" taste) or cut the sugar levels of the drink. This had an adverse affect on it's popularity. I think the Orca\Coke uses this stronger ratio than the Catawissa version does.
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