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Stephen Hussar

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30-inch gauge Baldwins in Argentina
« on: December 13, 2008, 09:31:08 PM »
This photo from Glenn Christensen shows a very solid looking 2-8-2 Baldwin in Argentina... based upon the design of SR&RL No 23, but updated. Thanks, Glenn!


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Re: 30-inch gauge Baldwins in Argentina
« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2008, 12:19:24 AM »
Um I dont think it looks like SR&LR #23? Does anyone have any photos of the real #23?  ??? ::) :)
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Re: 30-inch gauge Baldwins in Argentina
« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2008, 08:30:30 AM »
Um I dont think it looks like SR&LR #23? Does anyone have any photos of the real #23? 

Try the narrow gauge discussion forum www.ngdiscussion.net


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Re: 30-inch gauge Baldwins in Argentina
« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2008, 10:52:57 AM »
Matt, simple things like changing the pilot and bolting a number plate to the front would make quite a difference in looks. The shape is there.
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Re: 30-inch gauge Baldwins in Argentina
« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2008, 04:42:36 PM »
the outside frames and cranks really seal the deal for the apearance.  A new number plate and some re-lettering is all it needs! ;)
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Re: 30-inch gauge Baldwins in Argentina
« Reply #5 on: December 14, 2008, 06:00:58 PM »
And if its a wood burner then we need to change the fuel type! ::) :)
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Re: 30-inch gauge Baldwins in Argentina
« Reply #6 on: December 14, 2008, 08:55:15 PM »
By the looks of it, they might run it on a liquid fuel. Looks like a tank has been set in the coal pocket of the tender.
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Re: 30-inch gauge Baldwins in Argentina
« Reply #7 on: December 14, 2008, 10:09:57 PM »
You're right Mike!

She's an oil burner.


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Re: 30-inch gauge Baldwins in Argentina
« Reply #8 on: December 15, 2008, 05:58:04 PM »
Glenn, send me the spec sheet and I'll post that too.

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Re: 30-inch gauge Baldwins in Argentina
« Reply #9 on: December 15, 2008, 07:42:18 PM »
Fairly late engine....notice the piston valves. And what looks like Sellars non lifting horizontal injectors. The issue with foreign market locomotives is they usually lack ASME code boilers. Without a National Board number and traceable materials for every repair...they would probably require an entirely new boiler before they could operate here in the U.S. While certainly do-able, that is a very expensive proposition.

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Re: 30-inch gauge Baldwins in Argentina
« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2008, 09:37:18 PM »
I agree Keith!

You can pretty much count on any repatriated loco needing a new boiler .  Even so, all the estimates I have seen indicate a full restoration with new boiler would probably be half the cost of constructing the same loco new.  Unfortunately, its unlikely a loco of this size would be economic to operate on any of the current Maine two-footers, given normal ridership levels.  But we can dream!

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Re: 30-inch gauge Baldwins in Argentina
« Reply #11 on: December 15, 2008, 09:42:15 PM »
Cualquier persona habla espaƱol? ;) Nice! Thanks, Glenn.


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Re: 30-inch gauge Baldwins in Argentina
« Reply #12 on: December 16, 2008, 12:37:52 AM »
And it burns "petroleo"=oil

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Re: 30-inch gauge Baldwins in Argentina
« Reply #13 on: December 16, 2008, 10:42:47 AM »
Still would be nice to get one..... ;)  And an oil-burner wouldn't be a bad thing, we'll just use some good ol' yankee smarts and run it on bio-diesel.  Then make our own fuel for next to nothing. 

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Re: 30-inch gauge Baldwins in Argentina
« Reply #14 on: December 16, 2008, 11:39:57 AM »
Since a new boiler on something like that would probably be needed anyways, who says that you can't make the new one more preferable to coal?
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