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Jason M Lamontagne

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Re: Sheepscot Turntable - Official Work Thread
« Reply #60 on: January 18, 2016, 07:41:33 PM »
With all due respect, Joe, what we're planning is historically correct (edit: well, that deserves a caveat...  See the end).  The Wiscasset  table had a timber retaining perimeter retaining wall for most of its life.  The full perimeter concrete wall seen later on, and what is just below the surface of the ball field now, did not carry a ring rail.  It was not rugged enough to add structure, and as far as we can tell wasn't even connected to the 'abutment,' where tracks ran on to the table.  The structure of the foundation is in the center pour and the abutment pour, which we're planning on connecting with concrete ribs below the surface.  If we truly want to reproduce what was in Wiscasset- what we're planning wouldn't change.  We'd simply add a perimeter of either timber or thin concrete after the fact to keep the surrounding earth from slumping into the pit.

Remember this is not like most turntables we're used to seeing; queen truss tables gather their structure from above the table, meaning the pit is very shallow compared to a "modern" turntable pit.  

Caveat:  Note in the Facebook photo of Wiscasset's table, the timber wall is only maybe 8" tall; the only reason it was needed at all was because the track near one edge, and the hill below the school on the other side, prevented easy landscaping into the pit itself.  So the Wiscasset table always had a retaining wall, but for most of its life it was timber, and it was only there for specific reasons.

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Re: Sheepscot Turntable - Official Work Thread
« Reply #61 on: January 20, 2016, 06:44:32 PM »
Understood. My concern with a partial pit abutment is the potential for movement in towards the pit which is why I still believe a complete pit ring is stronger than a partial wall. I guess I would have to see the actual plans to better voice concerns. I'm not questioning the structural design, rather the concern for shifting and binding of the table, which may not be an issue being made of wood. But after seeing how much headache turntables can cause, and how easy they can bind up is the biggest draw back.

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« Reply #62 on: January 20, 2016, 07:09:30 PM »
And maybe historically correct was the wrong terminology, as I know the it will be historical and be well represented.

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« Reply #63 on: January 23, 2016, 10:37:16 AM »
The patterns for a number of iron parts for the turntable were delivered to Cattail Foundry in Intercourse, Pa. on Thursday. These included the male and female parts for the pivot, the wheels for the spider, and the end brackets and sheaves for the tension rods. The foundrymen said they'd be ready in a month or so.

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« Reply #64 on: January 23, 2016, 02:16:14 PM »
Something cool -- the pattern for the cap for the tall queen posts (which holds the tension rod in place) is an actual casting from the Wiscasset turntable.

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« Reply #65 on: January 23, 2016, 05:11:54 PM »
 Harold, The plans or drawings that have been posted show some very long timbers for the turntable. Has the BOD decided what type of wood to be used and will it be from Maine or local?   Fred L. Kuhns           

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« Reply #66 on: January 23, 2016, 05:35:19 PM »
We plan to obtain the (4) 7-1/2 X 16 X 48 foot beams of Douglas Fir from a local company, who will tease them from timbers from the northwest.

It'll probably all be Doug Fir

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Re: Sheepscot Turntable - Official Work Thread
« Reply #67 on: January 23, 2016, 05:43:57 PM »
 Jason, Douglas Fir is very good choice. Thanks Fred L. Kuhns

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« Reply #68 on: January 23, 2016, 06:36:22 PM »
I'm curious, how did a seemingly random piece of hardware such as a queen-post cap (one of the original four?) from the Wiscasset turntable survive to the present day? Where has it been for the last 80 years?
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« Reply #69 on: January 23, 2016, 08:06:35 PM »
Well- for the last 20 years it's been upstairs in our shop.  It came with a bunch of other seemingly random, but interesting parts from the Ramsdell farm.

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Re: Sheepscot Turntable - Official Work Thread
« Reply #70 on: January 23, 2016, 08:38:59 PM »
Thanks, Jason. That answers my question. I still wonder why it was saved in the first place, though -- but regardless of the reason,  I'm glad it was!

Looking at the photos of the original turntable again I realize I should have said one of eight, not one of four.

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Re: Sheepscot Turntable - Official Work Thread
« Reply #71 on: January 31, 2016, 03:28:44 PM »
For those who don't follow Facebook we were awarded a $10,000.00 grant for turntable construction today. Following text and photos from the museum's facebook page.


FOUNDERS GRANT AWARD - We are pleased to announce that today, the Amherst Railway Society presented the WW&F Railway with the Founders Grant Award for construction of the Sheepscot turntable. The grant amount is $10,000 which is a big help with the project. Many thanks to the ARS for their continued support for rebuilding an important part of Maine's History.





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« Reply #72 on: January 31, 2016, 03:38:14 PM »
Absolutely wonderful.
It proves that success breeds success.
Congratulations.
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Re: Sheepscot Turntable - Official Work Thread
« Reply #73 on: January 31, 2016, 03:48:59 PM »
Well done, all.

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« Reply #74 on: January 31, 2016, 03:56:20 PM »
I hope the bank will accept a check that large!

I don't think we had any idea that this was coming (usually for big grants the grantor gets notified ahead of time), so I was very surprised when I read this.

Kudos go to Ed Lecuyer for his excellent grantwriting work.