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Re: Box Car 67 - Official Work Thread
« Reply #120 on: January 04, 2016, 06:21:39 AM »
The trucks that came with it could have come from any car. I am not sure it sat on trucks at Edaville, but when moved to Portland the trucks were removed to move another car. They are a great truck to rebuild, in my opinion, if you want to be original. All wood is still in the trucks, never having been replaced with steel.
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Re: Box Car 67 - Official Work Thread
« Reply #121 on: January 05, 2016, 03:37:25 AM »
Looking at the timber in the last photo of the truck it looks like that timber
may have been replaced once already - do you not think the original
would have been clear & straight grained?

I hope you will be using square head bolts & nuts on any replacements.
I have some - though probably not the exact one you need -
called "The Goldie Locks Syndrome" (Too big or too small)

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Re: Box Car 67 - Official Work Thread
« Reply #122 on: January 05, 2016, 11:09:59 AM »
Also, this car has body-hung brakes, so there is no need for a truck with the wrap-around top frame rail.  The wrap-around rail is the suspension point for the truck-mounted brake beams, which is the method we used for Coach 8 and flatcar 126.

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Re: Box Car 67 - Official Work Thread
« Reply #123 on: January 05, 2016, 12:23:37 PM »
There are two differently-designed trucks shown. Interesting.
Time to pull out a compressor before Mr. Snow gets serious.  ;)
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Re: Box Car 67 - Official Work Thread
« Reply #124 on: January 05, 2016, 05:08:51 PM »
Wood crew was busy gathering today... the donated oak logs for the 67 project.

Fred cutting tree #3.







Tree Log #3 headed out.



Fred measuring with a scale



Brendan making a cut.


When all logs were out, we loaded the trailer using the dozer, by chaining the logs to the blade. Not the fastest way to load, but we got it done.
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Re: Box Car 67 - Official Work Thread
« Reply #125 on: January 05, 2016, 05:37:52 PM »
Some more pictures of our little logging operation.









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Re: Box Car 67 - Official Work Thread
« Reply #126 on: January 05, 2016, 08:38:48 PM »
Impressive...anything you guys CAN'T do?
So it's off to the sawmill, eh?
Besides Kubota, Case-y is the best buy WW&F made.
How did  the equipment get to the clearing?
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Re: Box Car 67 - Official Work Thread
« Reply #127 on: January 05, 2016, 11:20:45 PM »
From the pictures it looks to me like they were logged in the woods behind the garage.

Could this be so?
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Re: Box Car 67 - Official Work Thread
« Reply #128 on: January 06, 2016, 06:34:01 AM »
No. The trees were donated from an off site location. Brendan hauled the dozer over and logs back. Dozer will return as soon as the trailer is emptied.
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Re: Box Car 67 - Official Work Thread
« Reply #129 on: January 06, 2016, 07:25:57 PM »
You guys could use a CCC and WPA crew.
Naaah!
A busy winter is underway.
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Re: Box Car 67 - Official Work Thread
« Reply #130 on: January 07, 2016, 10:24:52 PM »
Today 67's frame was flipped over and placed on flatcar 126 to begin the frame's rebuilding. The roof framing was temporarily loaded on top of the under frame to make room to park number 10 in the front of bay 2.



Dismantling of 67's trucks for rebuilding started today in the machine shop.




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Re: Box Car 67 - Official Work Thread
« Reply #131 on: January 08, 2016, 12:23:10 AM »
If when all is said and done, there is enough money left in the budget, can we put some cast journal box covers on the trucks? If we need a pattern, I'd be happy to bang one out.
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Re: Box Car 67 - Official Work Thread
« Reply #132 on: January 08, 2016, 05:26:36 PM »
OK, question...I may be missing something, or am just dumb, but why does one truck have a "wrap-around" top bar frame, and the other does not?  Does it have something to do with the brake rigging?

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Re: Box Car 67 - Official Work Thread
« Reply #133 on: January 08, 2016, 05:43:47 PM »
Your assumption is correct, Terry. The truck frame with the "wrap around" style top bar is meant for a car with truck mounted brake rigging.  Examples of which could be found on Facebook during the coach 8 and coach 3 brake upgrades over the summer. The other truck style is for body mounted brakes, signs of which can be seen in pictures of 67's deconstruction. Body mounted brakes are more rigid in their construction, but require some means of keeping them aligned with the wheels as they go around curves, usually accomplished with metal tabs mounted to the brake beams.
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Re: Box Car 67 - Official Work Thread
« Reply #134 on: January 08, 2016, 06:05:26 PM »
Aside from brake rigging, are there any structural advantages to having a wrap around top bar?