WW&F #10

[Isaiah Reid]

This is my first post, but anyway, I believe to have found a shot of #10 when it was still in Louisiana (I don't know if you have the photo or not). Besides the obvious stripped parts like headlight and number plate, and overall decrepitude. If you look closely between #10's builders photo, and the other photo there are similarities. specially at the Tender, domes, smoke box cover, pilot, wheels, builders plate the two photo's look like they could be the same locomotive.

[Stewart "Start" Rhine]

Hi Isaiah,

Good find.  I think you are correct that the photo does show our #10 back when she worked the cane fields.  Interesting photograph.  Looking at the electrics, it looks like she spent more time backing the loads since the larger light is on the back.  Note the odd placement of the turbine on the running board.  As to the smokebox end, that is some headlight bracket!

Stewart

[Ed Lecuyer]

[Mod Note]
Welcome aboard Isaiah.
I moved this topic to Museum discussion, since #10 is not original to the W&Q/WW&F. I also fixed your poll question, so that it make sense.

I then cast my vote for "it is #10."

[James Patten]

I disagree, I don't think it is our #10.

The photo caption says 3 foot gauge, #10 was 30 inch gauge when in Louisiana.  I don't believe that's the right plantation, or the right number. 

It DOES look very similar to it, however.  Interesting headlight bracket.

[Dave Crow]

Notice the steam dome appears taller in the plantation photo.  I don't think it is #10.

Dave Crow

[Dylan Lambert]

Well, #10 got a new boiler for use at Pleasure Island, didn't she? Not only that, but Dugas and Leblanc bough three 0-4-4s of the same design, one of which is in Lampasas, TX with the 0-6-2 "Bertha". If there's a picture of that one (I believe it is #1) floating around, someone could do a comparison. I also dug up another picture of one of the Dugas and Leblanc engines at the Westfield factory. Can't tell if its one of the 0-6-2s or 0-4-4s though...
http://www.louisianadigitallibrary.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/LHP/id/903/rec/14

[Keith Taylor]

Definitely NOT No.10
Southdown Plantation No.6 was built by Vulcan in 1896 (No. 707) for the Crescent-Magnolia Planting Co. Sold to Southdown Plantation in 1928 and scrapped in 1953.
This information from the book Down Among the Sugar Cane, and on page 220 there is another photo by H.K. Vollrath showing the Southdown No.6.
No.10 Was built by Vulcan in 1904 (No.574) For Sterling Sugars, To Westfield Plantation in1943 Sold to Elray Kocke Services in 1958, Sold to Edaville Corp. South Carver, Mass in 1959 where it was originally converted from 30" gauge to 24" gauge.
Keith

[Ed Lecuyer]

I think the 3' vs. 30" is a typo on the caption. The engine looks too small for 3'.

Yes, Edaville reboilered #10 (then #5) for use on Pleasure Island (when they also re-gauged it to 24".) We added a new stack, smokebox, and cab a few years ago - so current photos would not be a help.

Regardless, if this engine is not our #10, it is VERY similar.

Great photo.

[Isaiah Reid]

Thanks for moving the post and the answers photo has been puzzling me for awhile thought I would ask the experts.

[Keith Taylor]

I think the 3' vs. 30" is a typo on the caption. The engine looks too small for 3'.

Ed, Southdown Plantation was 36" gauge.  They had nine steam locomotives all of which were scrapped in 1953.
It is not uncommon for locomotives from the same builder (in this case Vulcan) to look very much alike.
If you look at pictures of what is now our No.10, you will see that while in service her sand dome was switched with one from a Baldwin. Photos of the 10 in service at Westfield show her with the Baldwin sand dome.

Keith

[Stewart "Start" Rhine]

Hi Keith,

If the 3 foot gauge locomotive went to the Southdown Plantation in 1928, the photo was likely taken there in the 1930's or '40's.   That explains the 1930's looking electric headlights. I have seen utility lights on 1930's era fire engines that are the same type with bolts around the coupling rings.

So the locomotive is a very close cousin to our #10.  I think the length of the front headlight bracket is to get the lamp above the tops of the high-sided sugar cane cars when they are being pushed.   

Still a very interesting locomotive.

Stewart