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Disneyland Railroads Steam Engines History!
« on: November 11, 2008, 01:13:19 PM »
Well In my book Of The Walt Diseny Railroad Story! #3 Fred Gurley was Originally a 0-4-4 Built by Bladwin In 1896 for the 36 inch 24 mile Line Of the Lafourche Raceland & Longport Railway in Louisiana and then was transferd to the Godchaux Sugur Company also in Louisiana on the 36 Inch Line to and From the Suger Plant on the 48 mile long Railway and was Letterd #1 were it worked there for about 15 years until it was Retired to C.W. Witbeck and Then was later sold to disneyland Where it has been there for the past 46 years as a 2-4-4! Its Baldwin Builders Number are #14065!
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Re: Disneyland Railroads #3 & #4s History!
« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2008, 01:24:32 PM »
Now on the Disneyland Railroad #4! #4 was Built by Baldwin in 1925 as a 0-4-0 Saddle Tank Engine for the 36 inch Raritan River Sand Company of Central New Jersey for about 25 years! Then it was Sold to the 36 Inch Pine Creek Railroad in Freehold New Jersey were the Saddle Tank was Removed And was giving a Tender! It ran There for about seven Years until being Sold to the Cowboy City Amusement Park near Farmingdale New Jersey but was never operated so it was Retired! It was Sold to a New Jersey Railfan named Jay L Wulfson who will then sell the Little 0-4-0 to Disneyland and was Change from a 0-4-0 tender engine into a 2-4-0 and was named Ernest S Marsh and was #4! Its Builders Plates are #58867! Note The Tender on Number 4 today is not her Tender that she got from the Pine Creek Railroad! That tender was To Difficult to Restore so it was Sold to Ward Kimbells Grizzly Flats Railroad and was Coverited to an LGB Open Car! The Tender now was built by the Disneyland Back shops! :D
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Re: Disneyland Railroads #3 & #4s History!
« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2008, 05:24:05 PM »
Matt, I was involved with the Pine Creek RR many years ago, and to correct some of your information, the Disneyland No. 4 was, as you say, originally a Raritan River Sand Co. locomotive. However it was sold directly to Jay Wulfson. Jay owned and operated the Pine Creek RR as an amusement attraction on Route 9 in Marlboro, New Jersey. When Jay and his business partner Pierre Pete Rasmussen were contracted to run the line at Cowboy City, they set up a sepearate company called the Cranberry Creek RR which owned the Baldwin and also a 3' gauge Porter 0-4-0 saddle tanker to run at Cowboy City. Only the Porter was ever moved to Cowboy City. When Jay and Pete took control of the standard gauge Middletown and New Jersey RR, the Cranberry Creek RR equipment was sold. The Baldwin to Walt Disney and the Porter went south. (It is currently operated at the Agri-rama in Georgia) The remaining Pine Creek equipment was given to the volunteers who had run the Pine Creek for Jay, and moved to Allaire State Park in NJ, where it operates to this day as the NJ Museum of Transportation.
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Re: Disneyland Railroads #3 & #4s History!
« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2008, 07:33:51 PM »
Okay Thanks Keith! Now as For Engines #1 & #2 are not Real Engines! They are full size Replica working engines built in The Disneyland Railroad Back shop! They are like a Model Train brought to full Size! But both do Replica a Certain Real Locomotive! #1 Is A Reblica of Central Pasific 4-4-0 #173 Which the Real one was Built in the Central Pacific Railroads workshops at Sacramento in 1872, #173 is in fact Walts Favorite Engine And #2 is A Reblica of B&O Coal burner 4-4-0 #774 which The Real One was built in 1887 by Rogers! :D
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Re: Disneyland Railroads #3 & #4s History!
« Reply #4 on: December 01, 2008, 11:52:12 AM »
Now on to Disneyland Railroad #5! Well number #5 I know little about the one that is right now at Disneyland But there was another #5 that was traded by the Pacific Coast Railroad & Ranch that they traded forney style 0-4-2 that was built by the Davenport Locomotive Works which was later rebuilt in to a 2-4-4 by the Service Shops of Mount Pleasant, Iowa for the Ranch. In return Disneyland gave the Pacific Coast Railroad the 4 origanal Retlaw 1 Coachs! But sadly It was too big for the Disneyland Railroad rolling stock size so it was sold to WDW Railroad as a back up engine but was to small for the WDW's rolling stock size so it was sold again to I think some short line railroad in SC! More info to come on both #5's soon!    ;D
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