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Stewart Rhine wrote:Forgot to mention - the new shop lights are great! Classic looking. I hope there's a switch by the door from bay 3 so they can be turned on from either entrance. Walking through the shop is a real adventure in the dark. I'm sure the other folks who spend the night at Sheepscot will agree.
James Patten replied:I hope there's a switch by the door from bay 3 so they can be turned on from either entrance.
Yes there is. Now we just need a switch in Bay 3 to turn on Bays 2 & 3 lights.
jockellis replied:What type bulbs do you have in those pretty, green shades in the shop? Looks like a wonderful place to work.
Jock Ellis
Stephen Hussar replied:What type bulbs do you have in those pretty, green shades in the shop? Looks like a wonderful place to work.
Jock Ellis
Jock I believe they are lamped with 200W clear, Edison-based bulbs.
Josh Botting replied:Wow now thats some wattage....
Should heat the shop nicely in the winter...
Steve Smith replied:Looking at my latest electric bill from CMP I see that electric energy costs about 16 cents/kw-hour, at least in Camden. The ten 200-watt bulbs in Bay 4 use energy at the rate of 2 kilowatts, which at $0.16/kw-hr and about 10 hours per day comes to $3.20/day for lighting Bay 4.
How many ten-hour days per year for Bay 4? Maybe 75? That would come to $240/year to light Bay 4.
Maybe we should develop the habit of shutting off Bay 4 lights if we walk out and notice nobody else is in there? I dunno. That might shorten bulb life and cost more in the long run.
Maybe fluorescents would be cheaper to run, but now that we have all those incandescents, the pay back time for replacing with fluorescents would probably be discouragingly long.
Steve Smith
Wayne Laepple replied:Besides which, they didn't have fluorescent lights in 1910.
Steve Smith replied:Looking again at Stephen's photo I see what looks like another four or five lamps not turned on at the time. Now I'm wondering where's the switch for those. The switch for the ones that are on in the picture is located, quite logically, next to the people door.
SS
John McNamara replied:Looking again at Stephen's photo I see what looks like another four or five lamps not turned on at the time. Now I'm wondering where's the switch for those. The switch for the ones that are on in the picture is located, quite logically, next to the people door.
SS
The switches for the other lights are located on the central support posts. Also, I think that the lamps are probably 150's as that's what are used in the other bays. I'm not sure that they are 150's, however.
Stephen Hussar replied:Josh installed them with 150w frosted bulbs, and Zack changed them the following weekend to clear bulbs.
To Steve's point on turning lights off, I am in the habit at home of shutting off lights to save on the electric bill...and I shut the shop lights off a couple of times on Saturday and at least 4 times Sunday the weekend before last.
Wayne Laepple replied:Maybe we should get Josh to install a couple of motion detector light switches.....
Stewart Rhine replied:We have used 150 watt 130 volt bulbs in the shop for years. They last a bit longer than the 120 volt bulbs. Yes, CFL's could be used in the new light fixtures but here's a few reasons why we should not install them. (1) They take a while to warm up (2) They do not give the same quality light and (3) They do not look as good in an old style emerald shade.
Yes we need good light to work inside but Steve makes a good point about shutting off the lights. They get turned on when the crews start early and the sun is not up. Some days they could be turned off by late morning if it's a bright sunny day and all the doors are open. I deal with this at my fire station all the time. If someone is working in the shop, the zone lights (over certain machines) could be used instead of the entire bay.
We need to be as green as possible - not just for the environment but green as in saving dollars so they can be used on our many important projects.
Keith Taylor replied:Regarding CFLs, we tried them here at our home, and both my wife and I got terrible headaches trying to read by them. Also I question a "green" product that has disposal issues, as they contain mercury.
Keith
Josh Botting replied:Not only the poor light, and head aches, but in this state it is ILLEGAL to dispose of the bulbs. Not only that, but by the letter of the law, you need a hasmat team to clean up the mess from a broken bulb. A woman near Elsworth paid over $2000 for clean up from a broken bulb.......
John McNamara replied:Ah, the wonders of subject-oriented advertising. While reading about the evils of CFLs, I get an ad across the top of the page that shows a CFL!
