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Stephen Piwowarski

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Re: WW&F No. 52 - Official Work Thread
« Reply #60 on: November 30, 2020, 09:06:37 PM »
And just think, those aren't anything more than truck horns. Just imagine if we could get the 5 chime train horn that Maine Narrow Gauge has. I love that thing. Believe it or not, the horns on the 52 should actually be louder than what they are now. The FRA requires a train horn/whistle to be between 90-92 decibals.

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I’ve always been a big fan of the Nathan air whistles that the New Haven used on many of their engines. That being said, I don’t believe that those particular “horns” meet the FRA’s decibel requirement. I think that is why you don’t see many of them operating in preservation.

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« Reply #61 on: November 30, 2020, 09:49:48 PM »
I’ve always been a big fan of the Nathan air whistles that the New Haven used on many of their engines. That being said, I don’t believe that those particular “horns” meet the FRA’s decibel requirement. I think that is why you don’t see many of them operating in preservation.

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Those actually do come in above the minimum requirement, but not overly so. If they didn't then places like Essex wouldn't be allowed to use them.
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« Reply #62 on: November 30, 2020, 09:57:14 PM »


Those actually do come in above the minimum requirement, but not overly so. If they didn't then places like Essex wouldn't be allowed to use them.
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Interesting Bill, when I was working on the Berkshire Scenic, I was under the impression that our FRA inspector wouldn’t allow them for that reason. If they are allowed, that would be such a nice choice for 52. In my opinion, you couldn’t ask for a better sound that isn’t so harsh as to destroy people’s ears on open cars etc.

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« Reply #63 on: November 30, 2020, 10:13:14 PM »
You can always do what we did down in Portland. Rig up a not overly large whistle (the one on #1 right now is a 2.5" live steam whistle from a locomotive I had years ago) to handle the regular operational load and have the loud air horn for emergencies. Works out pretty good for a busy place like Portland and would probably go over well with neighbors on Sunday mornings.
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« Reply #64 on: December 01, 2020, 07:08:56 AM »
We need a horn from an F unit. Sounds like a sax..
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« Reply #65 on: December 01, 2020, 02:38:20 PM »
There are (or at least there were) a couple of Westinghouse air whistles in Alice's Room that would do nicely on No. 52. I have a three-inch Crosby that would probably work, too.

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« Reply #66 on: July 06, 2024, 05:54:24 PM »
Pete M. had fabricated a puller to get the inverted gear of the shaft of the air compressor. Here he has just gotten it to break free and is coming off easily.



Here is the remanufactured air compressor awaiting that gear..

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« Reply #67 on: July 07, 2024, 07:49:04 AM »
New air compressor. Yea, great job Pete M. What else is going to happen on 52?
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« Reply #68 on: July 07, 2024, 09:54:55 AM »
Possibly a radiator rebuild if the shop can work fast enough.  New fan and fan bearings. 

The engine is tired but where 52 is critical as contingency power, well not address that now.  July through mid October are major operations for us- losing No 9 without back up power would have real consequences.  We’re looking for a new prime mover so as to swap it out whole at a more opportune time, after which we’ll send this one out for rebuilding at an experienced shop who has the correct tooling. 

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« Reply #69 on: July 07, 2024, 06:58:34 PM »
Because of my lack of history with #52, has anyone ever asked Reading Tech. if they would consider selling #52's sister from Carpenter Steel?  It's technically not Reading RR Company and definitely not the correct gauge.
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« Reply #70 on: July 07, 2024, 07:36:18 PM »
John, all,

Re: another 2-axle Plymouth, I don’t think this is the correct move for is for several reasons.

We’ll have about $10k in repairing 52, including a new prime mover.  Thereafter rebuilding its current 4-72 will be a few more thousand but wise given what we’re facing now.

As it turns out, there’s still a commercial market for these critters.  We learned from ML&M these can go for something north of $50k in working order.

As yet unannounced, we are making significant headway in our plans for 53.  Expect a locomotive lighter in both total weight and axle loading than B&SR 7 but with more tractive effort than the same as all axles are powered.  While we have some surprises in store for 53’s prime mover, the mechanical conversion of the locomotive to two foot gauge will cost under $50k.  The locomotive will retain its GE center cab aesthetic and electromechanical control system.  It’s an early 45 Tonner- 1939- we will honor that. 

Also important is to remember why we favored such a bold approach as re-gauging a superfluous-gauge loco rather than purchasing a cousin to 52- we want two trucks.  52 is hard on track and itself- it’s a mill engine meant for 5MPH.  Wayne Laepple helped us search long and hard for a 2-truck solution: domestic, Russia, Australia.  We looked into building diesel hydraulic, using two critters as trucks, even adding lead and trailing axles to 52 (that was a fun one).  In the end, we reverted to Wayne’s original idea: a GE 45 Tonner.

Sorry for the long answer but I thought it a good opportunity to revisit our reasoning for our readers.

John are you coming up for the Build 11 session?

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