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Work and Events / Re: Trout Brook Bridge - Official Work Thread
« on: September 11, 2018, 07:29:13 AM »
If this had been a government job, they would still be doing "studies."

You forgot about filling out the paperwork in order to conduct the "studies"....

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Work and Events / Re: Trout Brook Bridge - Official Work Thread
« on: September 11, 2018, 07:28:16 AM »
What a fantastic article, photos, and video.

The level of support is remarkable, and our volunteers are amazing and do unbelievable things.

Reading the article, the only thing I want jumping out of it's skin is a moose trout into my frying pan - with lemon and pepper!
Corporate Presidents aren't as good with lemon and pepper, they just taste like chicken. ;)

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Volunteers / Re: September 2018 Work Reports
« on: September 11, 2018, 07:26:15 AM »
Good job Fred. Only another 500 to go..

It is like a carrot for FWW. If ties, spikes and rail keep magically appearing in the ROW, then the crew keeps feeling obligated to keep working. Next thing ya'know you're at the bridge.

So keep cutting Fred!

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Work and Events / Re: Mountain Extension - Official Work Thread
« on: September 09, 2018, 07:08:50 PM »
So it the Maine DOT going to hire you to rebuild Rt 218? I still think you're just trying to fake us out with pictures of Cross Road instead of the roadbed.
Looks better than great. Is this the 4' culvert at location 9? Sounds like 1400' at FWW is a possibility....

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Richard Hoare / Ffestiniog Railway's LYD / Wikipedia

TWO MW's for the L&B
http://www.lynton-rail.co.uk/story/two-mws-lb

With our Planning Permissions in place, now is the time to progress the construction of new locomotives for an extended Lynton & Barnstaple Railway; construction of both locomotive and railway will take approximately five years. Accordingly, the 762 Club is to construct not one, but two Manning, Wardle locomotives to run on the L&B. These will be ‘YEO’ and ‘EXE ‘. The company name ‘Manning Wardle’ is now owned by the L&BR Trust, consequently these two locomotives will be works numbers 2048 and 2049. They will not be ‘replicas’ but simply new locomotives. The design will be closely based on that of ‘LYD’ with other various improvements over the original three locos built in the 19th century.

The plan is for ‘YEO’ is to be built in North Derbyshire and ‘EXE’ at Boston Lodge. Construction will begin as soon as CAD drawings are prepared from the set used to construct ‘LYD’ and also as funds begin to accrue.

Full drawings and pattern equipment is in existence and has been made available thanks to the generosity of James Evans and the Ffestiniog Railway.

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Whimsical Weirdness and Foolery / Re: Moxie
« on: August 25, 2018, 06:48:03 AM »
Oh yes you do Ed!  I savor each and every one.  For those who would be interested, I am bringing a case of original recipe Moxie to FWW.  The stuff in the cans is corn syrup sweetener and a slightly different recipe.  My bottler in PA still makes it according to the original recipe with cane sugar and in glass bottles the way it used to be.  You can easily taste the difference.  8)

John,

Would that be the Catawissa Bottling Co.?

Jeff S.


Everyone knows the best Moxie comes from Pennsylvania. It's just like drinking a Guinness n' Dublin me boyo!

Catawissa Bottling Company produced the Moxie brand of soda under license from 1945 to 1967. In 1978, the company again contracted to produce Moxie, which it continues to produce to this day in addition to selling Moxie collectibles and paraphernalia.

So ya'all are drinking that fake Moxie in a can! Maybe you'll get the bridge and all that track done faster with REAL Moxie like Popeye with his spinach!  ;D

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Work and Events / Re: Mountain Extension - Official Work Thread
« on: August 02, 2018, 07:51:28 PM »
Years ago, I ran a 90 lb air hammer for a street contractor. That thing was HEAVY, got heavier through the day, easy to do severe damage to back and shoulders.

60 pound electric hammer, a 90lb hammer would bust the ties.

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Work and Events / Re: Mountain Extension - Official Work Thread
« on: August 02, 2018, 07:49:53 PM »
Hand spiking is the last, great bastion of building our railroad by hand, as many other concessions are made out of necessity. 

Handling those pneumatic spikers is no easy feat for those of us of “average” build.  Anyone bulked enough to handle one properly shouldn’t be trifled with.  I know from a touch of experience (trying to handle a pneumatic spiking hammer, not getting beat up by a pneumatic spiking hammer operator).  There is no ability to finnesse track gauge by drawing a rail with spiking technique.

If the mood of the crew swings towards automation in this regard- we’ll certainlu give it fair consideration- as we always strive to do.  We want to hear from those folks who would otherwise be wielding spike mauls.  I figure this FWW we can take the crews temperature again.  The introduction of such devices would be well thought out and executed.  If a couple showed up by surprise, I’m sorry to say they’d likely go unused that weekend.

See ya
Jason

They are period equipment, the pneumatic jackhammer was first invented in the 1840s with the electric jackhammer in 1917.

One doesn't need to be pro wrestler to handle them, it's only driving with a 60lb force. The gentleman pictured in Como is an "average" person.

The point is to use the tool with finesse.  As for the ability to use power equipment to adjust with precision, I know 5 heavy equipment operators, including my cousin, who can roll a raw egg around on grass with a backhoe without breaking it.

The key is to have the right head on the hammer so it allows you to control the spike without it being in the way of driving the spike.

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Work and Events / Re: Mountain Extension - Official Work Thread
« on: August 02, 2018, 04:32:20 PM »
John Henry told his captain,
"Well, a man ain't nothin' but a man,
But before I let your steam drill ** beat me down,
I'll die with a hammer in my hand, Lord, Lord.
I'll die with a hammer in my hand."


** Power Hammer

John Henry got his butt kicked by the steam drill. He did die with a hammer in his hand.

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Work and Events / Re: Mountain Extension - Official Work Thread
« on: August 02, 2018, 04:13:16 PM »
I've used and been witness to using power hammers to do spike driving and they do have their benefits and drawbacks.

One big drawback (and you can see it in the picture provided) is that you need a pilot hole for every spike or you need them the be pre-set in the tie by somebody with a maul. You can't start them with the power hammer.

You wouldn't want to start a spike with a power hammer. Either drill a starter hole or hand-set with a hammer.

Another drawback is that you're more prone to bending spikes beyond recovery. Hand hammering is just as likely to bend the spike, but you can stop and bend it back out mid drive. With the power hammer you're liable to not notice it until it's too late. The possibility of bent spikes goes up if you're using smaller spikes than you see on 3' and standard gauge lines.

You would want to have more experienced people run and manage the power hammers. You don't want to go willy-nilly thinking you're superman just because you have a power hammer.

With the pine ties it seems easy enough to drive spikes that I bet the gangs will have no major problems putting down 300-500 feet a day. That's 150-250 ties and 600-1000 spikes. 800 ties and 3200 spikes in a weekend is a big order, but doable based on what has been done in the past. I believe the record years they were doing it with oak ties and no pilot holes, which from my experience in Portland I can tell you is no fun.

Thus the point of a power hammer. Work smarter, not harder.

Let's model with two hammers using your numbers of spikes. (70/day * 2 hammer *3 days = $420) with a gang of 4-6 to run the power hammers
3200 spikes = 1600 spikes per power hammer, 13 cents per spike driven
Assume with 24 hours of work over 4 work days and you get and average of  50 spikes per hammer-hour (25% inefficiency over an 8 hour day)

1000 spikes = 500 spikes per power hammer, 42 cents per spike driven
Assume with 24 hours of work over 4 work days and you get and average of  16 spikes per hammer-hour (25% inefficiency over an 8 hour day)


It's linear, but let's run the number with 4 power hammers (70/day * 4 hammer *3 days = $840) with a gang of 8-10 to run the power hammers
3200 spikes = 800 spikes per power hammer, 26 cent per spike driven
Assume with 24 hours of work over 4 work days and you get and average of  25 spikes per hammer-hour (25% inefficiency over an 8 hour day)

1000 spikes = 500 spikes per power hammer, 84 cents per spike driven
Assume with 24 hours of work over 4 work days and you get and average of  8 spikes per hammer-hour (25% inefficiency over an 8 hour day)


Turnout is never predictable but with how much it's been known that "new iron" is going down my understanding is that turnout is up, especially with the younger demographic. I believe Joe's spring tie replacement group had at least 8 guys under the age of 25. That's not the 100+ that have mobbed the fall work weekends in the past, but 75 or so replacements plus the wholesale track section replacement in 4 days is testament that even a small crew can get a lot done with the current materials.

You are assuming that the availability of "under 25 years olds" is perfectly elastic, I'm betting that it is inelastic and Joe's pool of potential support is nearly tapped out.
The museum is already seeing a Year-over-year reduction in labor. There is a reason why the temporary bridge is designed for a second life in MOW service for laying rail.
Nothing prevents a section being hand-layed. The spikes can be hand-started if people want to do that. I'm just saying that the prior model of hand laying track is unsustainable.

My understanding is that we only want a maximum of 1600 feet this year anyways because the contractors are going to be accessing the roadbed from right next to where that 1600 feet stops. Equipment and additional materials and whatnot are going to come in through there instead of going over the bridge to reach the areas between the future EOT and the bridge site.

I believe Mike has said that location 10 and 11 might get completed prior to FWW since the contractor wants to complete most activities on the south side this year. It is all going to hinge on the completion of the pinch point so Contractor Jeff can get to the rest of the south side with his equipment to place the bridge.

Contractor Jeff wants to haul the material in from the access road, versus across the bridge next year. So this moves up our culvert installation to this year.. Contractor Jeff will help so we can do it quicker.

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Work and Events / Re: Mountain Extension - Official Work Thread
« on: August 02, 2018, 02:41:25 PM »
I know I might be accused of being a heretic but.....



We all are not getting any younger ...

If two of these were available with operators for FWW, I see no reason why more than 1600' of track can be spiked over the weekend.
Four of them and the necessary operators and we'd be laying track across the bridge and up to Rt 218 (or the south switch) by the Monday of FWW.

They are only $70/day to rent. $150/day saves a lot of sore backs, $300/day gets us to the new EOT a year ahead of schedule.
Plus WW&F regains the "Miracle Worker" award from our friends in the SPRS. 3000' of track in a work weekend!

I happen to own a used Bosch I picked up for a good price. Photo attached of my Bosch in case you think I am yanking your chain.

FYI, the photo is from Como.

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Volunteers / Re: April 2018 work planning
« on: August 02, 2018, 08:12:09 AM »
The worst of the dam damage.. Steve Z is looking at the dam pictured in the second photo.





Jason called and covered the bases with the Maine Warden Service, eventually talking with a biologist I believe. We were given instructions on how to encourage the beavers to move on. He was told to just remove a little of the dam early in the morning so the water drops gradually. This will need to be repeated all summer when needed, until trapping season this fall or winter, when ever it is, when a trapper can come remove them. Jason was told that a big removal of a large part of the dam would result in a quick drop in the water, and the beavers would think the dam was weak and build it twice as strong the next time.

With all the work to the north going on, how are our friends the beavers doing with their dam dams damage to the south?

For sake of completeness, I'll dredge up some old photos from Duncan Mackiewicz on another old thread http://forum.wwfry.org/index.php/topic,276.60.html
I'll in-line the pictures since over the last 10 years everyone should be off dial-up internet connections.  ;)








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Work and Events / Re: WW&F Launches its first Summer Concert Series
« on: July 31, 2018, 06:35:40 AM »
Awesome on the lyrics!

Let me see if I can pull something off like the Bridge Story.

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Work and Events / Re: WW&F Launches its first Summer Concert Series
« on: July 30, 2018, 12:36:36 PM »
Article in the Boothbay Register ...

Summer concert series begins July 28 at WW&F
https://www.boothbayregister.com/article/summer-concert-series-begins-july-28-wwf/105053

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Volunteers / Re: July 2018 Work Planning
« on: July 30, 2018, 12:15:07 PM »
Yes! They would chew on the wire. When I was young, yes they had electricity, only our electric fence had a battery pack, Everything stayed inside but the goats. We even hook an extra coil to it and that didn't help.

Young boys and electric fence wire do not mix, especially with an extra coil and extra voltage, it makes the arc discharge louder.
Lots of "double dog dares" can lead to trouble... ;D

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