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Bridgton & Saco River Railway / Re: Ed Mead's B&SR Photos
« on: October 28, 2019, 08:27:21 PM »
At least some of Mead's books have been dispersed. Several years ago I purchased (online, sight unseen) an old back issue of the R&LHS Bulletin which included an article on the Billerica & Bedford.  When it came in the mail I was amazed to find "Edgar T. Mead North Street Greenwich, Conn." stamped on the cover.

General Discussion / Re: Velocipede
« on: October 28, 2019, 08:05:36 PM »
Remarkably, there are currently no fewer than 5 velocipedes advertised for sale on the Ozark Mountain Railcar site. Prices range from $6000 to $7500. It appears to be the machine of the moment.

The Ffestiniog & Welsh Highland Railways have posted a video of their 2019 Victorian Vintage Weekend that I think is one of the best FR videos on Youtube I've ever seen. It includes a cab ride on Blanche as well as various vintage consists pulled by Prince, Palmerston, Taliesin, Merddin Emrys, and David Lloyd George, and not one but two gravity trains! The venerable Princess also makes an appearance in a photo lineup at Harbour Station, though not under steam.

General Discussion / Re: Velocipede
« on: October 27, 2019, 01:36:54 PM »
The Phillips Historical Society has an SR&RL velocipede, which it's interesting to note has not one but two wheels on the outrigger. This would appear to be consistent with Marcel's observation about the problem of weight and balance on narrow gauge. The 4-wheel design makes the car look like an "Irish mail" track car with one powered wheelset, but it really is a velocipede with powered wheels on one side only. ("Irish mail" cars appear to have been much more common on the Two-Footers, almost certainly for the reasons above, and were used by the WW&F as well as the B&SR. One of the photos of the Whitefield section house has a guy on one.)

Massachusetts' Two Footers / Re: mystery baggage car at Edaville
« on: October 18, 2019, 05:21:20 PM »
None of the SR&RL baggage or RPO cars made it into preservation at Edaville or elsewhere. I suspect this either a standard gauge car or a replica.

Massachusetts' Two Footers / Re: Edaville rolling stock
« on: October 18, 2019, 12:47:45 PM »
I'm afraid not. The 1947 roster is the only one I have.

Work and Events / Re: Mountain Extension - Official Work Thread
« on: October 17, 2019, 06:57:07 PM »
plus bits and pieces beyond including in New Sharon

For those not in the know, New Sharon = FS&K.

I've been told the W&Q's holdings also include some ROW north of Albion going towards Burnham.

US Two Footers / Re: J&L Narrow Gauge Railroad
« on: October 07, 2019, 11:35:45 PM »
Congratulations, Rick!

Work and Events / Re: Trout Brook Station - Official Work Thread
« on: September 19, 2019, 05:00:33 PM »
Jason and I agreed on an alignment Wednesday that leaves the rock/ledge intact.  :)

I'm glad to hear this. :) It's a small detail, but I appreciate when historical features of the ROW can remain intact.

Bridgton & Saco River Railway / Re: Bridgton"s Third Coach at the WW&F?
« on: August 23, 2019, 10:47:39 PM »
Here is a picture borrowed from Facebook of SR&RL coach 18/6 on B&SR coach 17's trucks.

I believe boxcar 50 was traded to ML&M for flatcar 34. The exchange happened last year.

Bridgton & Saco River Railway / Re: Bridgton"s Third Coach at the WW&F?
« on: August 23, 2019, 12:09:48 PM »
The fire that destroyed B&SR coach 17 at Edaville in 1985 was arson, sadly.

The last I've heard, the trucks are still under SR&RL coach 18 (SRRR 6), not SR&RL 17 (SRRR 5), though maybe that's changed since 17/5 was restored.

SR&RL coaches 17 and 18 were never at Edaville, and I don't think they've ever even left Franklin County since they were built, which is remarkable.

Work and Events / Re: B&SR Tank 14 - Official Restoration Thread
« on: August 20, 2019, 11:53:56 PM »
Although, the cars themselves may have been assembled in the early 1900s, I believe Phillip Marshall suggested that the tanks themselves may have actually belonged to earlier, standard gauge tank cars.

Yes, thank you Steve. 

The casting on the top of the dome of the larger tank (I don't know about the smaller one) is marked "Harrisburg Foundry & Machine Co. Makers Harrisburg Pa 1878". Also known as the  Harrisburg Car Works, this company was the first major builder of railroad tank cars during the Pennsylvania petroleum boom of the 1860s-1870s. They went out of business around 1893.

The larger tank bears a striking resemblance to an 1875 Harrisburg tank car design for the PRR illustrated at the link above.

I'm quite certain the larger tank is an 1870s standard gauge tank car that was acquired second-hand by Standard Oil and the B&SR and converted to narrow gauge.

A discussion of Harrisburg tank cars (including ours) on RYPN several years ago found at least four still in existence, of which ours is apparently the oldest based on the dome casting date:

There are very few Harrisburg tank cars left, and very few freight cars from the 1870s left in general, so it's a significant artifact even without the narrow gauge part of its history.

Work and Events / Re: B&SR Tank 14 - Official Restoration Thread
« on: August 15, 2019, 10:57:12 PM »
A detail Brendan pointed out to me on Sunday are the bolt holes showing where the stake pockets on the ends of each side of the car were located before they were moved over to make room for the stirrup steps. This means the side sills are original B&SR wood, which is amazing.
(Flatcar 14 as built by Portland Co. had no steps, just like our flatcar 118. The steps were added later when the B&SR was under MEC ownership.)

The trucks are mismatched, but one of them has Griffin wheelsets with SR&RL markings.

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