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Volunteers / Re: December 2022 Work Reports
« on: December 08, 2022, 04:35:32 PM »
The brake book we're reading, The Principals and Design of Foundation Brake Gear, reports that the standard approach on passenger cars is to design for no-load and disregard the weight of passengers.  The only exception they give are subway cars in NYC. 

(While a great resource, the book is horribly colored toward superfluous gauge railroads utilizing the braking system of a certain competitor of our good old buddy Fred Eames, so anything they say might be taking as a colored grain of salt.) 

We also can't slide wheels with the brake system when the cars are empty- and varying the capacity of the braking system for empty vs load is not a simple matter. 

There are acceptable ranges of braking ratios- so I'll run the numbers for both empty and loaded to ensure we land in the range at both ends. 

see ya

Volunteers / Re: December 2022 Work Reports
« on: December 07, 2022, 09:03:14 PM »
Ok I’ll spill the beans…

Coach 8: 8.6T
Coach 3: 11.8T
Coach 2: 12.5T
Caboose 320: 7.5T
Combine 14: 12.9T

Volunteers / Re: December 2022 Work Reports
« on: December 07, 2022, 08:09:20 PM »
Another new volunteer, Jim, joined me today in another leg of vacuum brake work: we weighed several cars in our fleet to facilitate brake linkage calculations.  We have a porta-power jack outfitted with a pressure gauge as a portable hydraulic scale- Jay Barta rebuilt it for us this fall.


Work and Events / Re: J&S Truck Build/Rebuild - Official Work Thread
« on: December 05, 2022, 07:12:17 PM »
Thank you Paul for posting this!  I’ve been telling folks my recollection of your recollection- we all know how that goes… so, I really appreciate getting the direct account down officially.  I’ve heard quite a few other Edaville stories that are well worth sharing.


Volunteers / Re: November 2022 Work Reports
« on: December 01, 2022, 08:26:18 AM »
I believe the skates should be centrally stored in a designated location in SS yard, with the exception of flatcars which should have a skate on board.  In fact someone (Bill B?) had created a set of hangers in the East outside wall of the garage for this purpose- which is the right idea, however that particular location is not safe as it creates a pinch point with equipment passing on that track.  I believe we should use those hangers for skate storage, relocated to a safer location.

As I told Bill B- I don’t feel it’s necessary to label the skates “skate,” however that’s more a preference than anything related to operations.  So- it’s artistic license as far as I’m concerned. 

Thanks Bill B for your work and initiative, and all here for the constructive conversation.


Work and Events / Re: J&S Truck Build/Rebuild - Official Work Thread
« on: November 26, 2022, 08:31:42 AM »
Ed is correct, however some clarification:

The J&S trucks currently under refurbishment were built for B&SR combine 11.  Edaville move them to SR&RL coach 21 (F&M 2- currently owned by ML&M and at the WW&F).  Thus we will reunite the trucks with F&M 2 on a reversible basis (in other words the coach still belongs to ML&M and the trucks belong to us).

The B&SR swing mo trucks from coach 2 to box 56 are a temporary measure (a few years) to buy time to construct a new set of freight trucks.  The new freight trucks will be WW&F common bolster trucks destined for flat 126 (a WW&F repro).  The trucks currently under 126 are B&SR swing mo trucks, which will get moderately refurbished and placed under box 56.  This frees the good trucks that would have been under box 56 to serve as operating alternate trucks, allowing systematic refurbishment of other B&SR swing mo trucks in passenger service.

A couple ancillary goals: the truck work is connected to our implementation of the vacuum train brake system, as we plan to install vacuum brake cylinders and reservoirs direct to trucks.  This will make fleet wide implementation much more practical.  Further- box 56 leaving shop bay 3 will permit the boilers for 10 and 11 to move into that space.  The boiler work really deserves dedicated workable shop space to spread out and properly tackle the many parts of the boiler project.  (L10 itself will go in the enginehouse, where it will receive some non-boiler improvements).

We’re still looking for an opportunity to change that up a little- and get some other trucks under 56, so the good swing mo’s out of coach 2 can help with vacuum brake implementation right away.  However, short of an alternate set of trucks for 56, we’ll stick with the plan above, get 56 in service and free shop bay 3 for boilers.  (No, neither MNG, ML&M, nor SRRR have spare trucks- we’ve asked). 

We’ve weaved a tangled (but hopefully logical) web of trucks :)


Volunteers / Re: November 2022 Work Reports
« on: November 19, 2022, 09:55:11 PM »
As yet undefined.  We’d talked about a drop on show fly switch.  Otherwise a new frog for a stub switch. 

Woods/ snow also a place to properly remove and store rail gantry.

Volunteers / Re: November 2022 Work Reports
« on: November 19, 2022, 07:23:03 PM »
Additionally, new volunteer Rich and I fabricated a weldment for Build11 which will serve as a placeholder for the cylinder castings until they return from the machine shop.  The temporary structure will permit work to continue without putting undue pressure on our shop to rush the job.  Cylinder machining isn’t something we want rushed :)


Museum Discussion / Re: Boiler work on the WW&F #10
« on: November 19, 2022, 06:13:57 PM »
Hi Ted,

Locomotive 10 has not been forgotten- however we have adjusted its placement in our shop queue to best suit current circumstances.  While there are a lot of fond memories of No 10 amongst our members, sentiment isn’t the only part of our decision making, as we must prioritize work by what the railroad most needs at any given time.

At present, we are focusing primary energy on installing our vacuum train brake system over the winter, as public service on the Mountain, begun only 3 months ago, has already proven the need for the braking system to be prioritized.  Further- the No 10 project requires dedicated space in the prime area of our shop, where the concrete floor and overhead crane is available.  We plan to perform the boiler work for 10 and 11 in bay 3 once it’s available.  No 10’s chassis will go in the enginehouse once it is available. 

We anticipate all of those moves to occur in late spring, 2023.  We plan to resume heavy work on no 10 after the train brake system is in service and we have proper working space for 10, and still hope to see it in service soon. 

As an aside- we are sure many other members such as you are wondering what No 10’s status is.  We plan to write a newsletter article which explains its status and the reasons behind it.  The most important thing- we haven’t forgotten No 10 and still look forward to getting it back on the active roster.


Work and Events / Re: Fall Work Weekend 2022 - Official Work Thread
« on: October 05, 2022, 08:17:53 AM »

If any volunteers coming in for Saturday’s work have access to railroad lining bars that they can borrow, please bring them.  We have 21- but hope for a total of 30-40 to feed to separate lining crews on Saturday.  If you do bring them- please be sure to give them a paint ID so you can properly recover them.


Work and Events / Re: Fall Work Weekend 2022 - Official Work Thread
« on: October 04, 2022, 04:40:25 PM »
I understand Nancy will be feeding the crew Friday lunch through Monday lunch.

see ya

Volunteers / Re: October 2022 Work Reports
« on: October 02, 2022, 07:08:04 PM »
Build11 crew is on-site this week as well.


Work and Events / Re: Fall Work Weekend 2022 - Official Work Thread
« on: September 29, 2022, 05:10:45 PM »
Detailed 2022 FWW Track Work Plan

Kink Repair (Steve Lennox, Jason), 1-2 helpers, including equipment to repair rail breaks.
Lining (Dana, Dan).  In vicinity of kink repair.  Majority of Friday track crew.

2 Lining Crews, both based out of Alna Center.  Lunch at AC.  PLEASE PARK AT AC!!!!
Crew 1 (Steve Lennox, Dan).
Crew 2 (Steve Leet, Mark Cheetham).
Both crews on foot out of AC, ideally 15-20 each crew.  Lining bars for all.  2 flagmen per crew for train protection. 

Tamping (Steve Lx), Harsco, 1-3 helpers.
Ballast Dressing (Dana, Dan)

Pit Rail Install (JML, Dana, Dan)

Volunteers / Re: September 2022 Work Reports
« on: September 26, 2022, 02:43:16 PM »
SeaLyon’s long standing goal for their joint Christmas event with us has been exactly this idea: a tree farm.  We have talked various options including leasing additional land to them for the purpose.

It is a lovely idea and I am very grateful we have a neighbor partner willing to take it on.  As for the railroad, we simply do not have the labor resources to add such an activity in house.

Good thinking John- shows the idea has merit. 


Work and Events / Re: Fall Work Weekend 2022 - Official Work Thread
« on: September 25, 2022, 02:16:04 PM »
FWW 2022

Track: Fri, Sat: main like lining (and possibly rail bending for kinks)
Sun, Mon: tie replacement, low joint leveling and tamping, ballast dressing.

Build 11 is expected to largely wrap up on Friday but that’s not definite.

There is hope that we can arrange painting crews for both Alna Center and Trout Brook Stations, though at present we don’t have leaders for either.

Brendan may have enginehouse or platform activities which could use crew- I’m not sure. 

I have heard that Dave is trying to advance the Head Tide Trail footbridge renewal, which would be great. 

Please keep in mind that Saturday of FWW will also host public Pumpkin Trains.  Parking will be strained at best.  Volunteers are encouraged to park in the west lot or 218/cross rd corner lot if physically able to walk in.  We’re also considering other parking locations.

If anyone else remembers projects that I’ve forgotten please post.  The important thing is that every project needs a leader.  Hoping someone steps forward to lead painting stations.


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