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WW&F Railway Museum Discussion => Museum Discussion => Topic started by: Ed Lecuyer on September 15, 2021, 10:49:24 PM

Title: LGB/Marklin Releases Model of #9
Post by: Ed Lecuyer on September 15, 2021, 10:49:24 PM
We're pleased to announce that LGB/Marklin has produced a licensed model of WW&F #9:
https://www.maerklinshop.de/en/detail/index/sArticle/63006

(https://www.maerklinshop.de/media/image/4b/1e/0e/d3f7816d1f32243d13862380c35ba05d1626847243PLXBYMoIwjoTf_600x600.jpg)


Note that while we were consulted, there are some fairly major differences between the prototype and the model (at least as pictured) that the designers did not address when retooling their existing Forney model.

However, by special agreement with LGB, every model sold will include a small book about the history of the WW&F and its current mission. As such, this will serve as a great ambassador to our museum to garden railway enthusiasts around the world.

Matching models of coaches 3 & 8 are also available. Apparently they too have chosen to paint coach 3 as "Wiscasset and Quebec"!
https://www.maerklinshop.de/en/detail/index/sArticle/63010
https://www.maerklinshop.de/en/detail/index/sArticle/63011

(http://www.spur-g-news.de/LGB/2021/Herbst_2021/WWF_USA_Pano.jpg)
Title: Re: LGB/Marklin Releases Model of #9
Post by: Bill Baskerville on September 15, 2021, 11:48:12 PM
Ohhh.... Ohhh.... Hooo.... Hooo....
LGB will almost be as large as the real ones....
Title: Re: LGB/Marklin Releases Model of #9
Post by: Ed Lecuyer on September 15, 2021, 11:50:47 PM
I'm hoping for a 3-rail O scale version, myself. But I'm weird like that.
Title: Re: LGB/Marklin Releases Model of #9
Post by: Benjamin Richards on September 15, 2021, 11:56:36 PM
The "desert Southwest" is an interesting backdrop choice... Pretty neat!
Title: Re: LGB/Marklin Releases Model of #9
Post by: Mike Fox on September 16, 2021, 06:49:11 AM
Not too bad.. I only wish the roof line was correct..
Title: Re: LGB/Marklin Releases Model of #9
Post by: James Patten on September 16, 2021, 10:08:28 AM
I guess this means coach 8 should be turned into a clerestory car.
Title: Re: LGB/Marklin Releases Model of #9
Post by: Benjamin Richards on September 16, 2021, 10:19:03 AM
I just also noticed the outside frames on 9!

Seriously though, for all the nit-picking, these are some great little pieces.
Title: Re: LGB/Marklin Releases Model of #9
Post by: Bill Piche on September 16, 2021, 10:49:10 AM
I guess this means coach 8 should be turned into a clerestory car.
A careful application of a razor blade can turn that 8 into a (almost) 9 really quick.
Title: Re: LGB/Marklin Releases Model of #9
Post by: Ed Lecuyer on September 16, 2021, 10:59:03 AM
It was suggested that if they were to do two clerestory coaches, they should be numbered 2 & 3 (or 3 & 9.) Or at least make coach 8 a combination car (which they had the tooling for.)

It was indicated that if this sells well, they may be open to doing other WW&F-based models. We'll see...
Title: Re: LGB/Marklin Releases Model of #9
Post by: Bill Baskerville on September 16, 2021, 03:58:05 PM
It was suggested that if they were to do two clerestory coaches, they should be numbered 2 & 3 (or 3 & 9.) Or at least make coach 8 a combination car (which they had the tooling for.)

It was indicated that if this sells well, they may be open to doing other WW&F-based models. We'll see...
Well, I am doing my part and have already ordered my set thru my local hobby shop.

They may become a little less expensive on line but I like to support my local guy.
Title: Re: LGB/Marklin Releases Model of #9
Post by: Richard "Steam" Symmes on September 16, 2021, 05:23:20 PM
The coaches look "short" to me. I guess one could buy a couple and resection to get a scale length car.  As someone mentioned, the cab roof of the locomotive is not correct. It would take a bit more modeling skill to correct that.  The outside frame is wrong too, as someone else pointed out. All in all, from what I see so far, I rate this a C+. Nice try but no cigar!
 Richard
Title: Re: LGB/Marklin Releases Model of #9
Post by: Bob Springs on September 16, 2021, 07:42:06 PM
As a longtime large scale model railroader I am very familiar with LGB.  This company has always been known for strong, rugged and well engineered models.
High scale fidelity, NOT SO MUCH.  But the general garden railroad market didn't demand a high degree of scale so rugged stand-off replicas were just fine.
Also, LGB trains are engineered to operate on VERY sharp curves, so the shorter coaches.
My scale buddies and I considered LGB as a starting point for conversation to higher scale standards.

Bob Springs
Title: Re: LGB/Marklin Releases Model of #9
Post by: Joseph Lupinski on September 17, 2021, 08:04:22 AM
While it is nice they are making this and will help publicize the railroad the fact is it is being made in large scale based on holds they already have.  The G scale producers unlike rest of the scales slap a new paint job on something weather the design is correct or not because they will not spend the money to correct molds or make new parts.

Since Marklin acquired LGB all they have been doing is running the existing molds and have not seen anything really new.
Title: Re: LGB/Marklin Releases Model of #9
Post by: Benjamin Richards on September 17, 2021, 05:32:16 PM
unlike rest of the scales

There's plenty of blame to go around. I have a Minitrix (N scale) PRR Decapod which is in fact their German-pattern 2-10-0 chassis, with a K4 boiler shell slapped on. The cylinders on the shell don't even line up with the side rods.

And then they took the same physical loco and painted it for AT&SF as well.