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Worldwide Narrow Gauges => Two Footers outside of the US => Topic started by: Wayne Laepple on August 20, 2019, 08:44:05 PM

Title: Swedish two-footer
Post by: Wayne Laepple on August 20, 2019, 08:44:05 PM
Here's a two-footer in Sweden. Check out the outside Stephenson valve gear on the engine. Also, it appears the diesel follows the steam train with a water tank to put out any fires it may start. Also note how much difficulty they have with one of the turntables.


Title: Re: Swedish two-footer
Post by: John McNamara on August 20, 2019, 10:58:19 PM
The headlights are rather interesting. What do you know about them?
Title: Re: Swedish two-footer
Post by: Wayne Laepple on August 21, 2019, 08:47:51 PM
Sorry, John. I'm as much in the dark as you are.
Title: Re: Swedish two-footer
Post by: Benjamin Richards on August 21, 2019, 09:58:38 PM
^^^ Clever.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Swedish two-footer
Post by: John Kokas on August 21, 2019, 10:10:54 PM
Any Armstrong turntable will be hard to rotate when your loco is not properly balanced.  Check the video and see where the drivers are ………...
Title: Re: Swedish two-footer
Post by: Wayne Laepple on August 22, 2019, 06:55:15 AM
The driver's on the footplate, where he belongs.
Title: Re: Swedish two-footer
Post by: Jeff Schumaker on August 22, 2019, 08:26:12 AM
Another good one, Wayne.

Jeff S.
Title: Re: Swedish two-footer
Post by: ALAIN DELASSUS on August 22, 2019, 08:44:59 AM
Hello Wayne! Thanks  for posting this interesting link.You can find that kind of steam locomotive on many a tourist RR in Europe. 2500 were built in Germany for the use  of the army during WW1. They were powerfull and able to run on rough and ready tracks as long the width between the two rails was correct because of their narrow wheel tread. In fact during the war they often used short prefab pannels of track so there were no probs with the gauge. We have two of them on the AMTP in Pithiviers. One is in the museum and the other MTP  # 4 is up and running. Easy to drive but kind of tough to stoke up because of their  small grate and long boiler. May be you have caught it , the one on the video has a hose rolled up around the sand dome, it was used to pump water from a river or a pond along the track through a steam pump to refill the locomotive  water tanks. This one has a steam break ours have a hand breack on the fireman side, which is not very practical.
Title: Re: Swedish two-footer
Post by: ALAIN DELASSUS on August 22, 2019, 10:20:46 AM
 As I shared the You Tube link on my fb an AMTP volunteer just brought up there is only 100 Brigade Loks or DFB left in the world.
Title: Re: Swedish two-footer
Post by: Carl G. Soderstrom on August 24, 2019, 04:22:49 PM
Brandbevakning  =  fire Security

jernvagscafe  = Railway Cafe

Tåg till Gimarp = Train to Gimarp

Thanks for posting
Title: Re: Swedish two-footer
Post by: Dag Bonnedal on September 03, 2019, 04:43:28 AM
Very nice video of an absolutely wonderful railway!

We have a long standing and very good cooperation with them. Our locomotives have visited each other's railways many times over the years. And they borrowed two of our coaches some years ago when they celebrated their 40 year anniversary. Just takes some ingenuity to overcome the difference between our coupling standards.

The green loco is a sister of our blue No. 8, same name "Emsfors", same builder and from the same Swedish industrial line.

They are a small team of very dedicated members doing a fantastic job on a small budget. With their ex Polish loco fresh out from overhaul this year, they started the season with all of their 4 steam locos operable, great achievement. Unfortunately they had a broken axle on their ex German engine this summer (same type as the green loco).

Right now they are also building a new coach. The body is adapted to their needs, but both style and details are firmly based on the adaptions Swedish lines made to early French built excursion coaches.

The headlights are typical German kerosene (white sprit) lamps. The difference is that the German lamps have white enamelled reflectors, while Swedish usually have chromed reflectors.

Carl, your Swedish is flawless ;-)

As Alain points out, these so called "Brigade locos" can be tricky to fire. But that is on flat ground, once they hit a grade and you open out full they come into their own and start steaming and that is with a wonderful bark up the stack! Remarkable locos, built for a short and unhappy war service, and still over a hundred preserved.

The European Armstrong turntables are even more tricky to balance as they are pivoted on a single narrow bearing on the top of the centre column. If you are slightly off centre, weight will rest on the peripheral circular rail and they could be difficult to turn.
On a turntables like the one you have built (wonderful contraption!) I guess you only need to keep the centre of gravity inside the circular rail.
Title: Re: Swedish two-footer
Post by: Carl G. Soderstrom on September 03, 2019, 05:59:06 PM

I have to credit Cousin Torbjörn &
I have a cousin that was Brandman

And of course the internet translator (Just don't tell anyone) :-)
Title: Re: Swedish two-footer
Post by: Dag Bonnedal on February 04, 2022, 07:04:40 AM
Here is yet another very good video from the Ohs Railway in Sweden.
Be sure to turn on the English sub-titles.

It is made by and for the technically interested (read: car) enthusiasts in general, not the railroad nerds.
But informative and well made, and I think the members presenting themselves and their railway do a very good job.
The driver Jonas is their technical guru and beyond comparison the foremost knowledgeable boiler smith for veteran boilers in Sweden. He will, at his ordinary work place, overhaul some of our boilers in the next few years.

You may also have a look at their new coach project, coming along nicely.