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WW&F Railway Museum Discussion => Museum Discussion => Topic started by: Benjamin Campbell on April 08, 2019, 09:09:25 PM

Title: Useful relics at Portland Co?
Post by: Benjamin Campbell on April 08, 2019, 09:09:25 PM
A non railfan friend who lives within sight of the old Portland Co said that they started some demo work there today. I peaked in the window of the largest structure last fall and noticed several smaller 'jib cranes' still in place. These were generally used to swing heavy pieces into position over lathes and other machine tools. Could be neat (and useful) to save several of these if they are going to get scrapped. I wonder if any other useful relics of the Portland Co days are within?
Title: Re: Useful relics at Portland Co?
Post by: Mike the Choochoo Nix on April 10, 2019, 10:26:25 AM
Jib cranes were sometimes used for coaling locomotives, I don't remember seeing any pictures of one on the WW&F but maybe one could be used for other things near the shop or at the sawmill?

Mike Nix
Title: Re: Useful relics at Portland Co?
Post by: Bernie Perch on April 10, 2019, 11:52:32 AM
Wasn't there some sort of crane between the turntable and the coal shed in Wiscasset?

Bernie
Title: Re: Useful relics at Portland Co?
Post by: John Kokas on April 10, 2019, 12:05:23 PM
Bernie, I think you're correct.  Time to get my 2 Feet to Tidewater out again!
Title: Re: Useful relics at Portland Co?
Post by: Mike Fox on April 10, 2019, 12:07:33 PM
There was a jib crane on the Wiscasset Roundhouse, attached to the outside wall of the run through bay.
Title: Re: Useful relics at Portland Co?
Post by: Graham Buxton on April 10, 2019, 02:03:54 PM
Brendan posted this image of the Wiscasset turntable to RYPN in 2016 that appears to show a jib crane ...
(http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s5/bbarry74/bbarry74006/wtt3.jpg)

Here is that earlier thread: http://www.rypn.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=39754 (http://www.rypn.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=39754)
Title: Re: Useful relics at Portland Co?
Post by: Jeff Schumaker on April 11, 2019, 07:40:26 AM
If you look closely, there appears to be a bucket attached to the crane cable.

Jeff S.
Title: Re: Useful relics at Portland Co?
Post by: John Kokas on April 11, 2019, 08:13:12 AM
Yes, definitely a bucket.  My bet - a coaling jib for the engines,  there are several videos out there showing how it worked on the B&H.  I think if we could get one or two it would be neat to have one at our coal dock.
Title: Re: Useful relics at Portland Co?
Post by: Benjamin Campbell on April 12, 2019, 08:52:26 AM
I may be misnaming the pieces I am referring to although I have seen them referred to as 'jib cranes' by machinists. They are a smallish iron I beam or in many cases a section of railroad rail ranging from 8 to 16 feet in length and fixed in the horizontal position with an upwardly sloping top brace. They are mounted to a column or wall on a pivot which allows them to swing in an arc. A pulley and chain fall travels the length of the rail allowing heavy pieces to be machined to be swung over lathes - millers etc. The B&MRR's shops had them mounted over every machine tool.

The Portland Co buildings contain at least a few of these and who knows what other useful remnants from it's manufacturing days. It would be neat to save useful artifacts which may have played a part in the construction of #9 and other narrow gauge equipment. Work is underway so time is of the essence. Any Portland area members want to check it out?

What about the wood foundry patterns which are or were stored in one of the Portland Co buildings?
Title: Re: Useful relics at Portland Co?
Post by: Mike Fox on April 12, 2019, 09:30:12 AM
Those are also Jib cranes Ben. We have long talked the useful advantages of some of these strategically placed.
Title: Re: Useful relics at Portland Co?
Post by: Mike Fox on April 12, 2019, 08:10:18 PM
Wiscasset Roundhouse Jib Crane

(https://oi1132.photobucket.com/albums/m573/miketrainnut/0412192001_zpseudfb5ak.jpg)

(https://oi1132.photobucket.com/albums/m573/miketrainnut/0412192001a_zpslicvwtfr.jpg)
Title: Re: Useful relics at Portland Co?
Post by: Bill Baskerville on April 12, 2019, 10:06:35 PM
Wow, look at the kink in that track in the lower picture.  Our road crew does a much better job of keeping our track in good shape.