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Title: WW&F No. 51 (The Brookville) - Official Work Thread
Post by: Ed Lecuyer on December 18, 2012, 08:59:46 PM
This thread is for ongoing discussion regarding locomotive 51, aka "the Brookville".
Title: Re: WW&F No. 51 (The Brookville) - Official Work Thread
Post by: Bill Reidy on December 12, 2017, 08:47:38 PM
Robert Stacy Paine passed away on December 6th at his family's homestead, Paine Hollow in South Wellfleet, MA.  I understand Mr. Paine's Paine Enterprises Marine Railway was the source of our Brookville -- an important part of our museum's history.  A brief discussion of the PEMR can be found at http://www.railroad.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=126&t=34742

Mr. Paine's obituary can be found at http://www.capecodtimes.com/obituaries/20171210/robert-s-paine and http://obits.dignitymemorial.com/dignity-memorial/obituary.aspx?n=Robert-Paine&lc=7888&pid=187493851&mid=7670625
Title: Re: WW&F No. 51 (The Brookville) - Official Work Thread
Post by: Jay Barta on December 26, 2020, 08:28:56 PM
Trackcar 51, (former locomotive 51, aka “The Brookville” is undergoing a bit of a refurb/rehab during the winter months. And I thought I’d take a rather long winded moment to provide a project update.

Trackcar 51 is a 1947 Brookville manufactured by the Brookville Locomotive Works of Brookville Pa. The company can trace it’s roots to 1918 when ford dealer L.A. Leathers founded the Brookville Truck and Tractor Company, manufacturing the “Leathers Mine Motor.” A unique concept, the “Mine Motor” was a hybrid kit. When integrated with a Ford one ton truck or Fordson tractor chassis yielded a light rail vehicle that could be locally serviced with stock parts. These were marketed to coal and clay mines, limestone quarries and brick and tile plants that dotted the Northeast and the upper Midwest. The goal was to replace mule surface haulage, and to do the same work as 4 mules. Original models were capable of hauling 50 tons a day, and within several years subsequent models accomplished 150 Tons a day.

As the years passed Brookville’s product evolved to a single sourced product using many different power plants appearing like what we might identify today as a light rail locomotive. The post war 1940’s brought many changes and the cranberry industry was no different. An increase in demand for product as well as expiration of war time ceiling prices drove the “bog boom” in southeast Massachusetts resulting in the creation of hundreds of new cranberry grow sites. The Brookville works rose to the challenge offering the 1.5 ton BSA light rail locomotive. Marketed as the “Cranberry Special” these were offered in 24” gauge, with an option for a 30” version. A total of 16 were produced from 1946 to 1949, with half of the production being sold to growers in southeast Massachusetts and Cape Cod. These were designed to operate over temporary “bog track” typically hauling tip cars of sand involved in bog construction. Brookville touted the locomotive’s attributes in add copy, “It can be used over soft ground and requires only easily laid, light weight track which can be traversed at high speeds due to the freedom of wheel movement allowed by Brookville dual journal spring type, suspension.”

The power is provided by a Continental Y112 4 cylinder L-head gas engine. The largest of the diminutive Y4 series of power plants this beast produced a whopping 37 HP @ 2800 RPM and with it’s relatively low compression ratio, was well suited for low quality fuels as well as propane.

A fun factoid. The Y112 was the original engine provided in the initial pre WW2 Jeep prototype created in 1940 by the American Bantam Company. This was later supplanted by the L134 “Go Devil” as Willys became the predominate war time manufacturer over Ford and Bantam with the ubiquitous Willys MB.

Brookville employed a complete power package with the engine married to a Warner T-9, 4 speed crash box and a split input shaft reverser. These were widely used in forklifts particularly by the Clark company in their Y20 yarder lifts of the 40’s and 50’s and their Clipper series of the sixties. This provided the Locomotive with all gears both in forward and reverse. This approach would make sense for Brookville. Fly in the power plant, bolt it down, add a fuel and electrical source a drive shaft and your good to go. 

Distributed by Russell Trufant of North Carver Mass cn 3233 was ordered in October of 1946 and delivered to JB Atkins a grower in Harwich Mass. Interesting that as this order was processing, down the road in South Carver Mr. Atwood and Mr. Moody were back hard at it building the “ultimate bog railroad”. Any intermediate owners, if any, are unknown. The last owner was a Mr. Robert Paine from Wellfleet Mass. He opened and operated Paine’s Campground in South Wellfleet for decades. He also operated the Paine Enterprises Marine Railway which was comprised of the locomotive and nearly 1,000’ of bog track running from the shoreline up to his yard and shops.

In 1994 he saw to donate 3233 to the museum, and in late summer the “critter” made it’s way to Sheepscot. A few cursory repairs and 51 was placed into service for the annual picnic of that year. This was the first form of motive power for the railroad and it would be over another two and a half years before additional help would arrive in the form of the Plymouth. The last major maintenance undertaking was in 2009 when major overhaul was performed to the running gear, the rear diff. as well as other areas.

In subsequent years it had become increasingly difficult to engage and shift the transmission despite wide clutch adjustments and being a crash box (no synchro) would make it more difficult to listen to. It was determined that both cases had run dry at some point and after topping it off would just end up on the floor from an unknown source. So it was endeavored to pull the transmission to investigate further. Several years ago work began, the transmission pulled but in our imperfect world, more pressing projects arose consuming both human and physical resources deferring the project for several years.

There now appears to be a window to tackle some of these issues. First the transmission, since removal the transmission is locked up in second gear, wouldn’t be surprised if moisture found it’s way into the control towers, we do have a spare if needed. Also planned is a check of the running gear, brake rigging, restoring the oilers which are plugged and rehabbing the sanders, (it has 4 wheel sanders). We’ll then move forward. There have been reports of a small rear main seal weep which I can see evidence of, but the pressure plate and disk are dry so perhaps can be deferred until next winter when we can pull the thing out, flip it over and do front and rear main seals. The fuel system was drained and purged when the transmission came out so that a good thing, but if we encounter trouble I know a Continental Engine whisperer who’s within earshot.

That’s the long and not so short of it. Pics coming when I can figure out the technology. Thanks.

Sources: Brookville Equipment Corp.; American Industrial Mining Co. Museum; National Cranberry Magazine; NE Railfan.Net; WW&F news letter archives 1994, 1995, 1997, 2009; Obituary of Robert Paine 2017.
Title: Re: WW&F No. 51 (The Brookville) - Official Work Thread
Post by: Roger Cole on December 26, 2020, 08:49:30 PM
Do you have a photo of No. 51 you could post before it went down for repairs?
Title: Re: WW&F No. 51 (The Brookville) - Official Work Thread
Post by: Mike Fox on December 26, 2020, 09:21:16 PM
Wow Jay. When you said long winded, you were serious. That is a great history lesson on the Brookville. Thanks for the update. It has been missed since it went down.
Title: Re: WW&F No. 51 (The Brookville) - Official Work Thread
Post by: Jay Barta on December 26, 2020, 09:50:11 PM
Sorry, thanks I've learned way more about cranberries than I'd like. By the way you're the aforementioned "Continental Whisperer"
Title: Re: WW&F No. 51 (The Brookville) - Official Work Thread
Post by: Mike Fox on December 26, 2020, 10:32:36 PM
I'm not much of a whisperer.. But I can still smell that varnished gas from the Shingle Mill Conti..never have I seen one that bad. It has been a couple years, time to get that one running again..
Title: Re: WW&F No. 51 (The Brookville) - Official Work Thread
Post by: John Kokas on December 26, 2020, 10:52:27 PM
Time to start planning & designing the sawmill and shingle mill.
Title: Re: WW&F No. 51 (The Brookville) - Official Work Thread
Post by: Bill Reidy on December 27, 2020, 09:07:21 AM
Wow!  That's a terrific history, Jay.  Thanks for researching and writing it.  Separately, I was going to update 51's roster page today (http://wordpress.wwfry.org/?page_id=192 -- I've been slowly updating the roster pages the last two months), but I see your information should be added to the page.

Here's a few related photos:

March 1948 Cranberries magazine ad for Brookville's "Cranberry Special."
(https://i.imgur.com/Bd8E2Vp.png)

Recent photo of 51's builder's plate, courtesy of Stewart Rhine.
(https://i.imgur.com/BY38wlK.jpg)

Brendan Barry photo of 51 in service taken during the Fall 2015 Work Weekend.  See http://forum.wwfry.org/index.php/topic,2548.msg24623.html#msg24623
(http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s5/bbarry74/IMG_1679.jpg)
Title: Re: WW&F No. 51 (The Brookville) - Official Work Thread
Post by: john d Stone on January 01, 2021, 03:25:39 PM
Here's a SWW photo of 51 by the water tower. Didn't take on water, as I recall. Not sure which year, but it rained a lot.

Happy New Year!
Title: Re: WW&F No. 51 (The Brookville) - Official Work Thread
Post by: Mike Fox on January 05, 2021, 08:09:07 PM
Jay has been making steady progress, and is getting it looking more like its old self.

(https://i.postimg.cc/7hLNwSjT/0105211346.jpg)
Title: Re: WW&F No. 51 (The Brookville) - Official Work Thread
Post by: Bill Baskerville on January 05, 2021, 08:54:35 PM
I know that Jay has a lot on his plate with rebuilding 51, but I would like to see some handholds added so, like 52, there are some safe and secure places for riders to hold onto. This will help everyone comply with the three points of contact rule.
Title: Re: WW&F No. 51 (The Brookville) - Official Work Thread
Post by: Ted Miles on February 08, 2021, 12:48:59 PM
Jay,
      Thanks for all the details on the Brookville; you have added more data than I have ever seen before on this tiny but interesting vehicle!

Ted Miles, WW&F Life Member
Title: Re: WW&F No. 51 (The Brookville) - Official Work Thread
Post by: Bill Reidy on June 20, 2021, 10:07:42 AM
Jay Barta was busy working on the punch list to return No. 51 to service yesterday.  Within the last few weeks, he completed repairs to the Brookville's transmission.

(https://i.imgur.com/05L1K9i.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/YpAksfh.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/gfyf7WM.jpg)

Since Dave is not a certified trackcar operator, the remaining punch list does not include addition of a cup holder.
Title: Re: WW&F No. 51 (The Brookville) - Official Work Thread
Post by: Bill Reidy on July 10, 2021, 10:06:08 PM
Looking good today.  We've missed the Brookville in service.  It should be soon now.  Thanks Jay.

(https://i.imgur.com/SwVE2dx.jpg)
Title: Re: WW&F No. 51 (The Brookville) - Official Work Thread
Post by: Jeff Schumaker on July 11, 2021, 09:47:21 AM
Let me echo Bill's thanks to Jay for the time and effort he's put into getting 51 running again.

Jeff S.
Title: Re: WW&F No. 51 (The Brookville) - Official Work Thread
Post by: Bill Baskerville on July 12, 2021, 08:21:44 PM
When I was there in May I was amazed at the detail that Jay is taking in rebuilding the Brookville. It is a true restoration of this valuable diminutive locomotive in our collection. Those of us who work on various track projects, myself included, are very appreciative of all of his efforts.
Title: Re: WW&F No. 51 (The Brookville) - Official Work Thread
Post by: Mike Fox on July 24, 2021, 07:07:18 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/J42sZVJ6/0724211714.jpg)
Title: Re: WW&F No. 51 (The Brookville) - Official Work Thread
Post by: John McNamara on July 24, 2021, 07:31:21 PM
Looks great! BTW will the first aid kit be restored?
Title: Re: WW&F No. 51 (The Brookville) - Official Work Thread
Post by: ALAIN DELASSUS on July 27, 2021, 08:41:59 AM
That kind of small engine is very usefull. Always ready to give a hand to move a  cold steam locomotive or a car on the yard and I think it's easy to drive. We have such a small diesel engine at AMTP built in 1920 MTP# T14 and it's the first motive power a volunteer is entitled to drive. It underwent a general overhaul except for the engine in 2014.
Title: Re: WW&F No. 51 (The Brookville) - Official Work Thread
Post by: James Patten on July 27, 2021, 10:08:42 AM
It's a bit too small to move a cold steam engine.  It struggled to move #10, it can't move #9.
Title: Re: WW&F No. 51 (The Brookville) - Official Work Thread
Post by: ALAIN DELASSUS on July 27, 2021, 11:03:30 AM
Thanks for the clarification MTP #T14 weigh 1.65 US tons and is able to move all the motive powers even the big #12 21US tons but for this one it  required quite a lot of sand on the rails and some skill and practice. By now when they need to move #12 they use  a more powerful diesel engine. # T14 is also able to haul a few small open cars.
Title: Re: WW&F No. 51 (The Brookville) - Official Work Thread
Post by: Bob Holmes on July 27, 2021, 07:49:34 PM
Waiting to see what the Brookville can do

Thanks to Jay for his tireless efforts....
Title: Re: WW&F No. 51 (The Brookville) - Official Work Thread
Post by: Pete "Cosmo" Barrington on July 27, 2021, 11:31:52 PM
     I hereby recommend the PROPER name of this locomotive be:
         ... "The Brookville Bomber"....     
         ... OR: "The Brookville BRAWLER."  ;)
Title: Re: WW&F No. 51 (The Brookville) - Official Work Thread
Post by: Ed Lecuyer on July 29, 2021, 08:41:39 AM
Update on the Brookville:
Functionally, the Brookville is finished. That said, it needs to get it out on the line to run vs. idle in the shop. The hope is to have the unit enter service while completing restoration of the sanders, which in the past were never operational or utilized (other than as trash buckets).

Until the test run can be completed, the locomotive remains out of service and is listed as such in the current Time Table. Look for a Bulletin Order that will officially announce it's return to service.
Title: Re: WW&F No. 51 (The Brookville) - Official Work Thread
Post by: Jason M Lamontagne on July 29, 2021, 11:45:27 AM
We’ve been looking for a minute to test the Brookville on a day that Jay is there- after which we’ll change the status and make a general announcement that is available for use.  At the moment, because of the upcoming special operations, we don’t have a place to park it inside where it won’t be trapped by other equipment- so it’s not yet “hop on and go” anyway.

I do apologize we haven’t gotten the testing done yet- the new tamper has been parking it in so we can also make progress on that.  Wilmar moves today in prep for the big events so there’s new hope.

Thanks,
Jason
Title: Re: WW&F No. 51 (The Brookville) - Official Work Thread
Post by: Pete Stevens on July 31, 2021, 06:58:24 PM
I happened to be at the right place at the right time to spot Jay sneaking in a test run in the midst of all the activity this morning.(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/rBQye87PhMGcOAMpD63--VgGRm9NFl4JaIYiebXu9CLZbm3BEP60DuxvGqPF4KmPXxJQRo5Ab8IvtJJ0HFkQONZmJmiec0gN60n4RN3xQDhgPtjcSEIJniM66vgQUI7YSfhLlq6Go_cESTVetI42RZ_V6LFAKsfBmQE5Q1pcmvbgquxyteZMC2sNNqYzwQ8wAdTHPX0tqmLZupnkokiUt3uM1r6lRVaz0UyGUw6iuOJDVSgWz1XAwvqiEy5GhfWDT5iawuJuAPxQL4hh3OdH3LG4zBzTDlHL1WgtImlbh-2zvWNH7SAUtD0Un3ikyLL7GcSHO657o_gry8-P9fGOoTSTy1QAHJ91ZProfuig4cy65YpVPgvWHy-dLJcOzIIiuiUYu0Kg4GwjyrG1V6IgaD08geMKLuVllrEXBrUO7nO8yDfWN8oB48LgeQSylgWJtqJ4O5DuzDeQXdoBlhYzvv_kGskiV3snk749fuXaOD2Ba5fmj1wB_jw9IheeQgbbOJHrYevmKJ4bKRcMhroVhoSFBCK0L9velOZYOhde6OQduOzWYvmruinN9y91B3HF1hAetDHycg96vzP_sdNrJip46yEVT1HgAurS-Im-EQL3YUnt99nRx9JC3LNk3gCXSRvXxdZ4MCp-7DbtnrqV4WU5z5X6wwLCNd7MSyzsWtPorpSkf3DiPkkaJsBVubCjxj7ij7IkYSmYJpRKflrmLJnp=w1019-h765-no?authuser=0)
Title: Re: WW&F No. 51 (The Brookville) - Official Work Thread
Post by: Bob Holmes on July 31, 2021, 07:24:40 PM
Bravo Jay!!
Title: Re: WW&F No. 51 (The Brookville) - Official Work Thread
Post by: John Kokas on July 31, 2021, 08:40:08 PM
Must be that new "Stealth" paint job.  I can't see it in the picture posted.   :o
Title: Re: WW&F No. 51 (The Brookville) - Official Work Thread
Post by: Ed Lecuyer on September 02, 2021, 06:34:21 PM
Bulletin Order 9-4-2021 indicates that Track Car #51, the Brookville, is now back in service.

Bravo to Jay for getting this completed!
Title: Re: WW&F No. 51 (The Brookville) - Official Work Thread
Post by: Bill Reidy on September 02, 2021, 07:14:08 PM
Bulletin Order 9-4-2021 indicates that Track Car #51, the Brookville, is now back in service.

Bravo to Jay for getting this completed!

I second the bravo to Jay.  Well deserved.  Thanks!
Title: Re: WW&F No. 51 (The Brookville) - Official Work Thread
Post by: Bill Baskerville on September 02, 2021, 10:44:21 PM
hooray, Thanks Jay, the Brookville is a great help for various track and ROW maintenance activities.  We've missed it.
Title: Re: WW&F No. 51 (The Brookville) - Official Work Thread
Post by: Mike Fox on September 03, 2021, 09:26:13 AM
Thanks Jay