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The Maine Narrow Gauges (Historic & Preserved) => The Original W&Q and WW&F: 1894-1933 => Topic started by: Matthew Gustafson on March 07, 2009, 01:55:35 PM

Title: Work Train Photo at Head Tide
Post by: Matthew Gustafson on March 07, 2009, 01:55:35 PM
Did the WW&F ever had work trains for the ROW like they had on the D&RGW narrow gauge line?  ::) ;) :)
Title: Work Train Photo at Head Tide
Post by: Stephen Hussar on March 07, 2009, 05:57:33 PM
Did the WW&F ever had work trains for the ROW like they had on the D&RGW narrow gauge line?  ::) ;) :)

um, like this?

(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-8/342468/oldgraveltrain2sm.jpg)
Title: Work Train Photo at Head Tide
Post by: Ed Lecuyer on March 09, 2009, 08:14:32 PM
At the risk of going off topic...
That picture. I know its the Head Tide Cut where we have been cutting trees this winter. I always assumed that it showed the train pointed north, but is that correct? In other words, is that the famous "red cape" in the background, and the train is pointed south?
Title: Work Train Photo at Head Tide
Post by: Mike Fox on March 09, 2009, 08:28:40 PM
Ed, The train is pointed south and the red cape appears to be white at the time and located over the caboose cupola.
Title: Work Train Photo at Head Tide
Post by: Matthew Gustafson on April 16, 2009, 11:08:52 AM
Nice photo of the work train. I think thats WW&F 0-4-4 #1 in the photo if im correct.  :) ;) :)
Title: Re: Work Train Photo at Head Tide
Post by: Ed Lecuyer on April 16, 2009, 11:12:41 AM
Yes, Matt. You are correct. That is W&Q #1.
Title: Re: Work Train Photo at Head Tide
Post by: Pete "Cosmo" Barrington on April 16, 2009, 05:38:23 PM
Nice catch Matt! You've obviously been studying ;)
Title: Re: Work Train Photo at Head Tide
Post by: Steve Klare on April 17, 2009, 01:57:18 PM
She's also Sandy River First #3, the first new engine bought by a Maine road, and so disliked up there she spent the majority of her career in Phillips as a stationary boiler!

Kind of sealed Porter's fate as a supplier of locomotives to the two footers as well. 
Title: Re: Work Train Photo at Head Tide
Post by: Bill Piche on April 17, 2009, 02:06:14 PM
Kind of sealed Porter's fate as a supplier of locomotives to the two footers as well. 

It wasn't for a lack of trying. I believe that it has been discussed elswhere in this forum about a Porter designed 2-8-0 that they drew up the the Sandy River.
Title: Re: Work Train Photo at Head Tide
Post by: Steve Klare on April 17, 2009, 08:17:09 PM
I think that engine was meant for the W&Q, when they were still reaching for Quebec.

Maybe #1 had a better reputation on the coast!

Still the same, a Maine Two Foot Consolidation would have been a sight to see!
Title: Re: Work Train Photo at Head Tide
Post by: John Kokas on April 18, 2009, 08:58:33 AM
Who knows - sometime in the future one could be "created"?
Title: Re: Work Train Photo at Head Tide
Post by: Matthew Gustafson on April 18, 2009, 04:26:04 PM
Nice catch Matt! You've obviously been studying ;)
Thanks.  ;D
Title: Re: Work Train Photo at Head Tide
Post by: Paul Horky on April 19, 2009, 09:20:05 AM
Somewhere I read that #1 aka SR 3 had no better rep at the W&Q. Something about she didn't backup too good and when doing so tended to become very hungre for ties and bit them often.
Title: Re: Work Train Photo at Head Tide
Post by: Pete "Cosmo" Barrington on April 19, 2009, 12:08:41 PM
according to "The Prophet Moody," she was most likely relegated to yard duty as she showed up in verry few photographs.
Title: Re: Work Train Photo at Head Tide
Post by: Zak LaRoza on November 04, 2010, 09:56:13 AM
I heard she mostly was used in building the line, and then as a yard engine. Apparently, near the end of #1's career she had to be ran backwards all the time, her drivers were that worn!  :o
Title: Re: Work Train Photo at Head Tide
Post by: Jock Ellis on November 06, 2010, 11:53:09 PM
anyone dress like this during the work weekends?
Title: Re: Work Train Photo at Head Tide
Post by: Mike Fox on November 07, 2010, 06:25:41 PM
Jock,
  We have talked about reproducing the photo during a work weekend. Not in Head Tide, but in the same town.
Title: Re: Work Train Photo at Head Tide
Post by: Zak LaRoza on November 08, 2010, 03:03:51 PM
If you put the diamond stack back on #10, then it would be really more accurate.
Title: Re: Work Train Photo at Head Tide
Post by: John Kokas on November 08, 2010, 04:00:05 PM
I can wait for a few years until the tracks are back in the cut.  Then it would be wonderful to stage a before-after photo during the Annual Work Weekend.  What a poster that would make !!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Work Train Photo at Head Tide
Post by: James Patten on November 08, 2010, 06:07:26 PM
If you put the diamond stack back on #10...

Fortunately the diamond stack from #10 is no where at Sheepscot any more.  I think we sold it to somebody.
Title: Re: Work Train Photo at Head Tide
Post by: Pete "Cosmo" Barrington on November 09, 2010, 03:17:57 AM
I'm sure we could fabricate one temporarily just for the photo...

...then BURN it afterwards! ;)
Title: Re: Work Train Photo at Head Tide
Post by: Zak LaRoza on November 09, 2010, 09:31:45 AM
I have seen photos of #10 with a diamond stack, so I presume it still exists somewhere?  ???
Title: Re: Work Train Photo at Head Tide
Post by: Zak LaRoza on November 16, 2010, 09:21:29 AM
I agree, I don't like it when tourist lines put diamond stacks on engines that never had them. Like when the D&RGW put diamond stacks and big oil headlights on their K-28's in the '50's and '60's. I do like diamond stacks on engines that were actually built in the woodburning era.