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Title: Tree Work, November 9, 2024
Post by: Mike Fox on October 30, 2024, 09:46:09 AM
Saturday, November 9th, we will be doing some tree removal just North of TOM to improve visibility and decrease fire potential. There are several large pines that we will be removing. I have just reserved a large wood chipper for that day to get rid of the limbs.

The plan as it stands is to leave the logs as they fall, as long as not fouling the track, and they will be loaded onto a flat car at a later time, possibly as part of a special event. But getting the trees down where planned and cleaned up is the main purpose of the day.

There will be no burning.

Departure time from Sheepscot should be 8:30ish, returning for lunch, then maybe more in the afternoon. Wrapping up around 3. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: Tree Work, November 9, 2024
Post by: Mike Fox on November 07, 2024, 11:02:32 AM
The initial plan is still on, but I may change the work slightly, depending on the wind. The forecast is for 15mph winds with higher gusts. That may be too much for trying to carefully drop the bigger trees. But we will decide that Saturday.

But I have thoughts on other tree work we can do while we have the chipper. Never a lack of things to do with a willing crew. See you Saturday
Title: Re: Tree Work, November 9, 2024
Post by: Bill Reidy on November 07, 2024, 04:33:04 PM
I suggest we bring the blower with us to clean up pine needles and leaf litter from the right-of-way if we work north of ToM.
Title: Re: Tree Work, November 9, 2024
Post by: Mike Fox on November 07, 2024, 09:20:44 PM
Great idea
Title: Re: Tree Work, November 9, 2024
Post by: Brian Whitney on November 08, 2024, 09:26:12 AM
Once the trees are dropped the wind won't be an issue.
I say we stick with the plan if we can. We can cut between gusts!!
Maybe the wind direction will be in our favor.
But... safety comes first.
Title: Re: Tree Work, November 9, 2024
Post by: Benjamin Richards on November 08, 2024, 01:03:13 PM
I suggest we bring the blower with us to clean up pine needles and leaf litter from the right-of-way if we work north of ToM.
Further to this, while the shoulders clean up fine, I found it is very difficult and frustrating to blow material out of the gauge. It tends to stay trapped between the rails. Some kind of small ramp would improve this. Could be as simple as a small piece of plywood propped up on a block.
Title: Re: Tree Work, November 9, 2024
Post by: Mike Fox on November 09, 2024, 09:08:14 PM
A very successful day. 4 large pines down and brush cleaned up. Sorry I did not get any before photos..

(https://i.postimg.cc/xdRTNBv0/20241109-134342.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/yNB8d7SQ/20241109-134424.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/4xp3sYnH/20241109-134450.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/hjZDpxZ6/20241109-134556.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/sxBV8XtX/20241109-134638.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/MTpZ7t51/20241109-145549.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/brKzjPhR/20241109-145740.jpg)
Title: Re: Tree Work, November 9, 2024
Post by: Bill Reidy on November 09, 2024, 10:51:06 PM
A few additional photos.  Our work train today, as seen at Top of Mountain.  Right to left: locomotive No.52, flatcar No. 118 loaded with the chipper Mike rented from Ames Hardware along with other tools, and MLM caboose No. 554.
(https://i.imgur.com/nnOHr7x.jpg)

Watching Mike about to drop the first tall white pine.  Top of Mountain in the distance.
(https://i.imgur.com/p8IPZdX.jpg)

Tree crew about to cut off the branches from the first tall white pine dropped.
(https://i.imgur.com/oQpbOKA.jpg)

Volunteers feeding the chipper with the branches from the first tree.
(https://i.imgur.com/wybECVV.jpg)
Title: Re: Tree Work, November 9, 2024
Post by: Jeff Schumaker on November 10, 2024, 09:41:26 AM
Looks like there's potential for some nice white pine lumber.

Jeff
Title: Re: Tree Work, November 9, 2024
Post by: Pete "Cosmo" Barrington on November 10, 2024, 10:30:07 PM
Looks like there's potential for some nice white pine lumber.

Jeff

If only we had a sawmill ...  ;)
Title: Re: Tree Work, November 9, 2024
Post by: Mike Fox on November 11, 2024, 06:21:07 AM
Hope to get the logs to one of our local sawmills to use as lumber for one of our future building projects
Title: Re: Tree Work, November 9, 2024
Post by: John Kokas on November 11, 2024, 08:06:32 AM
Agreed Mike,  that is some nice looking pine that would make a nice random width floor.  Now to find some good Oak to get post and beams for the lumber/shingle mill.
Title: Re: Tree Work, November 9, 2024
Post by: Jeff Schumaker on November 11, 2024, 10:14:49 AM
I'm guessing that, at some point, the logs will be loaded onto a flatcar and delivered to Sheepscot?

Jeff
Title: Re: Tree Work, November 9, 2024
Post by: Mike Fox on November 11, 2024, 07:51:52 PM
Here is a photo taken by James Dalgleish that shows a before photo..

(https://i.postimg.cc/XJf2gpNB/IMG-2411.jpg)

And here is a short video of that tree coming down, also shot by James.

https://youtu.be/7LBo2PNoH24?si=_yN7TVyttr_eA2iD (https://youtu.be/7LBo2PNoH24?si=_yN7TVyttr_eA2iD).

Title: Re: Tree Work, November 9, 2024
Post by: Mike Fox on November 12, 2024, 09:36:03 AM
A few more videos from James.
Tree #2

https://youtube.com/shorts/BJ8pK5bihZ8?si=7JYpshXTIhfoHsxD (https://youtube.com/shorts/BJ8pK5bihZ8?si=7JYpshXTIhfoHsxD)

Tree #3

https://youtube.com/shorts/bYLXlViHF5k?si=2lS_86aFD-eTGuh- (https://youtube.com/shorts/bYLXlViHF5k?si=2lS_86aFD-eTGuh-)

Tree #4

https://youtube.com/shorts/jod3AZZizIA?si=MRT5osGvmgRwrctY6 (https://youtube.com/shorts/jod3AZZizIA?si=MRT5osGvmgRwrctY6)

Chipper

https://youtube.com/shorts/Q301Kdr_cI4?si=0k9z4Lh6O-Go8M5a (https://youtube.com/shorts/Q301Kdr_cI4?si=0k9z4Lh6O-Go8M5a)
Title: Re: Tree Work, November 9, 2024
Post by: Benjamin Richards on November 12, 2024, 10:19:41 AM
It looks like there were more white pines that didn't come down. How did you determine which ones got the axe?
Title: Re: Tree Work, November 9, 2024
Post by: Mike Fox on November 12, 2024, 11:16:42 AM
We were trying to remove the ones directly over the rails. The 1st and 3rd trees were especially important. The other 2 were overhanging enough that needles would drop in the guage, creating a blanket of pine needles and increasing the potential for fire. As much as we disliked the idea, we knew the only way to fix the problem was remove some trees.

There are more North of that location, with 2 being right at Fossels. But no plans as of yet for another cutting session.