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WW&F Railway Museum Discussion => Volunteers => Topic started by: James Patten on November 02, 2016, 05:59:48 AM
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Anticipated work for Saturday November 5, 2016
* Albion Day. Albion Work Extra X5 departs Sheepscot approximately 8 AM, arriving in Albion approximately 9 AM. Work will be on the station building, track, and/or the Plymouth.
There may be a few people at Sheepscot, but most should be at Albion.
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I will meet the crew there. I hope to remember my come along. The one I pulled those trees over with in the parking lot. It is better than anything we have at the museum.
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I'll be at Sheepscot about 7:15 to load track tools, lining bars, jacks and brush cutters on my truck. See you all then.
Dave
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Work done at Albion on Nov 5, 2016:
* Rerailing flanger: Thanks to a come-along Mike brought the flanger was rerailed quickly. It was then shoved to the south end of the track.
* Replacing ties: We replaced 8 or 9 ties. It was challenging in some respects because the ties in some places are even with the ground.
* Ballasting: One of Phil's friends brought a Bobcat. The Historical Society had bought a load of gravel and a load of crushed stone. The gravel went to build up the road entrance. The crushed stone was dumped on the track in places that it needed it. Then everyone worked to spread it out.
* Weed whacking: Dave whacked a few tall weeds in and around the turntable pit. He and Bill F cut off some small tree growth that the whacker couldn't whack.
* Door knob: Stewart installed a door knob on the passenger door entrance.
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Radiator and Grille were also reinstalled on thd Plymouth.
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* Not just a door knob, a complete period correct rim type lock set with key.
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Anticipated work for weekend of November 12:
* Board meeting Friday afternoon 4:30
* Boxcar 67
* Track work?
* Archives
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I have hopes to be at the railroad on 11/10 to jack some low joints between bottom of the ladder and Albees X-ing
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Can't wait for more 67 pics. ;)
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Work done on Saturday November 12:
* Turntable: Leon brought in a locking mechanism he had built and Zack installed it (a sliding bolt on each end of the table that slides into a hole in the tie).
* Wood: All the uncut wood between Bay 1 and 2 lead tracks were split (with the splitter) and stacked.
* Archives: I installed our new printer, moved some items out of the new room, and helped move a desk from downstairs to the new room.
* Switching: We spent the afternoon switching. Coach 3 now lives in barn bay 1, 320, 309 and 65 in barn bay 2, and 103 and 8 in barn bay 3; flatcar 118 is in shop bay 1 in order to get the shingle mill pieces off the flatcar eventually, keeping it under cover.
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Jason's pictures of the first train into the Woods Track to retrieve the dairy car. The dairy car was unloaded from the museum's trailer at the end of the Woods Track last month.
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Anticipated work for Saturday Nov 19:
* Boxcar 67
* ROW clean up. If we have enough people, we should clean up some of the rail by Albee's field and MP 7 and consolidate it somewhere.
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Make a pile by by the woods track. Someone can crop and drill it there
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Track work tomorrow, 11/17:
Change some comp bars out first thing.
If there are enough people the stand at the Whitefield Section house needs to be changed.
If time permits I would like to raise a few rough joints at the bottom of the ladder and hand tamp them.
Brush cutting needs to be done as well, this is critical for the Jan events. If needed I hope to try to gather a small crew in early December to do some brush cutting.
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Adding to the rail stockpile in the parking lot would be a good idea.
At the Whitefield shed, is the intent to replace ground-throw switch stands with available tall mast, main line types?
Does save on back strain. ;)
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Actually the rail stockpile in the parking lot should eventually find its way to stockpiles elsewhere, so that we can get that corner of the parking lot back.
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The plan on swapping out the short switch stand for a tall one is for photo purposes. A taller one will look more prototypical of a main line switch rather than a yard switch.
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Wouldn't it be better if the rail stockpile in the parking lot found its way into track somewhere rather than into another stockpile?
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Brush cutting needs to be done as well, this is critical for the Jan events. If needed I hope to try to gather a small crew in early December to do some brush cutting.
Please stay well away from the Sheepscot to Alna Center telephone line! We'll need it for Victorian Christmas. I'm sure you're saying, "Don't worry: I know where it is," and may be slightly insulted that I bring it up. However, the telephone line seems to move around a bit and commit suicide by moving into the path of even the most well-intentioned brush cutter. :o
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Wayne brings up a very good point. If we move the pile anywhere, TOM is the only logical location.
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Ok John. Luckily all the brush is dead so I think most if not all in that area can be handled with a string trimmer instead of a tri blade.
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Re avoiding buried cable damage...
How about pounding in, carefully, flagged marker laths as close to the phone line as possible, maybe every fifty feet?
Using a telephone line locater toner would really help.
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Paul, 99% of our phone line is currently above ground.
The pile in the parkinglot os fine where it is. It is all the other debris we should be eliminating
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Work done on Saturday November 19:
* Car barn: Stewart painted some of the west wall.
* Joint bars: Fred, myself, Jay and Steve went to Alna Center north and picked up some of the joint bars along the west woodline, put them on the yellow car, and brought them south, storing them behind the garage.
* Wood at ToM: We also picked up a load of wood at ToM that Fred had left, and brought it back to Sheepscot.
* Boxcar 67: Zack has started on the roof assembly.
* Rail: After lunch 6 of us went north to Albee's Field where we cleaned up the rail on the ground, and stored it on the pile. After that we were tired so we did not pick up any of the ties scattered about that location.
* Archives: Linda asked me to get her all the old membership reports that I have stored in the closet, so that she could go through them looking for archival donation slips. I brought them all down and gave them to her. Later she was testing out the new printer on some photographs.
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Now that the turntable has a lock on it is there a default position that we lock it, like we do the switches on the mainline?
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My opinion is no- as we don't want to establish a habit of expecting it to be somewhere or assuming it's locked. Instead- planning a rule to stop 15' from edge of table, as if it's an end of track. The stop confirms control of movement, and allows position and lock to be confirmed.
See ya
Jason
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I like that idea. Many railroads with tables have a rule in place to stop short, check locking devices, etc before proceeding.
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planning a rule to stop 15' from edge of table, as if it's an end of track.
Well...it IS an end of track - especially if the turntable rails aren't lined up with yours!
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Good point, James and it is not even a switch!
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I remember a post about dire consequences for anyone putting a scratch on #9.
Putting the engine in the pit would put a BIG scratch on it.
Is there a consideration of putting a flag or mark at 15 feet?
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The operation of the turntable would be an appropriate subject for a risk analysis.
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Perhaps paint the tie ends yellow like we do for the fowling points.
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The 15' should be to the crews judgement. If you feel like they are going to fast, stop them sooner. The ends of track are not marked 1 car short. Its just a rough measurement. Just like giving car counts with hand signal.
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The 15 feet appears elsewhere in the rule book; for example, it is used in coupling. It's a general test of crew alertness and brake effectiveness upon approach to any situation that requires stopping. Since the test can be needed in general situations, the crew and equipment need to tested without location-specific markings.
-John M
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Perhaps paint the tie ends yellow like we do for the fowling points.
Is that like the duck points?
:D
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Perhaps paint the tie ends yellow like we do for the fowling points.
Is that like the duck points?
:D
Gordon, I'm just quackers over your comment. Bill
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Always stopping before entering the turntable makes total sense, similar to Amtrak's rule of requiring a full stop a few feet before making a joint.
Making sure the 'table is lined and locked for entry would also help. ;)
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Anticipated work for weekend of Saturday Nov 26. I guess some folks are planning to be at the Museum on Friday as well, instead of shopping (or maybe their wives shop while they play).
* Car 67
* ROW mowing
* Joint bar moving
* Rail moving (there's a pile at MP 7 that could get dismantled and moved)
* General cleanup/prep for Victorian Christmas
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I would like to brush cut Humason to Trask, and maybe Mp 7 to Rosewood. Also want to lift and hand tamp a few bad joints near the bottom of the ladder. 4-5 guys if manpower allows.
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There's a Vic Xmas prep list posted on the bulletin board in bay 4. It was targeting the weekday crew but anyone this weekend is more than welcome to consult it and get a head start...
See ya
Jason
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Work done on Saturday November 26:
* Boxcar 67: Zack keeps working on the roof rafters, he has the two longitudinal timbers in halfway down the roof, but still needs to cut the peak timber down to size/shape.
* Joint bars: Fred, Steve Z, and myself brought back another yellow car-ful of joint bars, from the ones that were sitting at the woodline north of Alna Center. These bars were stored on wood boards, most of which have now rotted away. The bars are stored behind the garage.
* ROW mowing: Joe mowed from the trestle to Trask Crossing.
* Rail: Fred, myself, Greg, Carlos, and Jerry (joined by Joe in the PM) moved the rail at MP 7 from the pile/ground to the railpile that was set up by the Top of the Mountain. After that we stacked up the timbers used to stack it on the yellow car and brought them back to Sheepscot, where Fred may dispose of them later in the coming week. During the rail moving we discovered a 56 - 75 pound rail compromise joint bar.
* Archives: Linda was printing out old photographs on photo paper (once I got the printer going again).
* Measuring: I walked the newly-laid tracks this year with the measuring wheel.
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"* Measuring: I walked the newly-laid tracks this year with the measuring wheel."
And....?
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The mainline extension down the hill from end to stub switch is 717' 1". I think the inch is from running over some weeds on the rail.
The mill spur from where both rails are spiked down to the frog is 101' 4".
Track 8 (the future roundhouse run-through track) from frog to turntable is 303'.
The woods track from frog to end of track is 322'.
The turntable itself is 49' 9".
Overall we have .73 miles of sidings, and the mainline to the end near the washout is 2.65 miles long (end is at MP 7.48).
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Along with Victorian Christmas prep we might want to test the phone line. Not sure when it was last used, but I did grass cutting at Sutters a few weeks ago and think we may want to test it to make sure all is in order.