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WW&F Railway Museum Discussion => Museum Discussion => Topic started by: Jock Ellis on January 22, 2015, 05:31:04 AM

Title: Please tell me the RR's typeface again
Post by: Jock Ellis on January 22, 2015, 05:31:04 AM
My project to build a storage shed that, from the front, looks akin to a vertically sheathed boxcar is almost finished. Some time ago I asked for the typeface used in your equipment for WW&F RR. I believe the answer was Caslon but I can't remember. If it was that, I'm in trouble because I don't have that on my computer. If it is, what is close?
Title: Re: Please tell me the RR's typeface again
Post by: Steve Smith on January 22, 2015, 11:02:41 AM
Jock, I have a printing and promotion handbook that shows some of the old-time typefaces with serifs, so might be able to scan and send you the image once you confirm what face the WW&F used. My guess Stewart Rhine can tell you but he may be at the Springfield RR Show just now.

Also, I notice there's a lot on typefaces via google. For example I typed in "Garamond typeface" in the google search box and the first return showed that face in all its letters, upper & lower case. You could probably enlarge a typeface on the computer screen and make a screen shot & then print it out.
Title: Re: Please tell me the RR's typeface again
Post by: Keith Taylor on January 22, 2015, 03:43:56 PM
The only type faces that I know were used on railroads were the following.
The Pennsylvania Railroad used Craw Clarendon and Pullman used Extended Railroad Roman.
What the WW&F used.....I haven't a clue.

Keith
Title: Re: Please tell me the RR's typeface again
Post by: Carl G. Soderstrom on January 23, 2015, 12:39:31 AM
Don't think they used typeface - too hard to get the carside in the typewriter.
I think they use paint and a brush. Brushface? :D

Carl
Title: Re: Please tell me the RR's typeface again
Post by: Philip Marshall on January 23, 2015, 10:20:53 AM
Are there any surviving car stencils from the WW&F?

I know the Phillips Historical Society has a set from the SR&RL.
Title: Re: Please tell me the RR's typeface again
Post by: Hansel Fardon on January 23, 2015, 12:31:38 PM
Stewart mentioned in a previous topic that it's:
Bakersville Old Face

I think the topic might be in the "Original WW&F" Page.
Title: Re: Please tell me the RR's typeface again
Post by: Bill Fortier on January 23, 2015, 10:32:43 PM
Century Schoolbook Bold is a good fit.
Title: Re: Please tell me the RR's typeface again
Post by: Steve Smith on January 23, 2015, 10:55:30 PM
Hansel, I'm pretty sure you're talking about Baskerville, which was designed in the 18th century and again became popular in the 20th century.

Judging from pictures in Two Feet to Tidewater, I'd guess that if the WW&F used Baskerville, it was in extra bold.   
Title: Re: Please tell me the RR's typeface again
Post by: Hansel Fardon on January 24, 2015, 08:22:50 PM
Oops! Got my S's wrong I guess...
Title: Re: Please tell me the RR's typeface again
Post by: Hansel Fardon on January 24, 2015, 08:24:51 PM
Original discussion:

http://forum.wwfry.org/index.php?topic=2057.0
Title: Re: Please tell me the RR's typeface again
Post by: Mike Fox on January 25, 2015, 09:50:56 PM
Hansel, you did well to remember the word. I would not have been able to recall one letter of the word. :)
Title: Re: Please tell me the RR's typeface again
Post by: John McNamara on January 25, 2015, 10:45:01 PM
Hansel, you did well to remember the word. I would not have been able to recall one letter of the word. :)

We didn't even have to hound him. ;D
Title: Re: Please tell me the RR's typeface again
Post by: Ira Schreiber on January 26, 2015, 04:34:42 PM
Now John, quit baying.
Title: Re: Please tell me the RR's typeface again
Post by: Hansel Fardon on January 26, 2015, 07:22:37 PM
Ed's search bar helped me dig up the clues.
Title: Re: Please tell me the RR's typeface again
Post by: Mike Fox on January 26, 2015, 07:27:36 PM
Hansel, I like using the Kubota for that. :)
Title: Re: Please tell me the RR's typeface again
Post by: Hansel Fardon on January 26, 2015, 07:38:35 PM
Does that make the Kabota a K-9 unit?
Title: Re: Please tell me the RR's typeface again
Post by: John McNamara on January 26, 2015, 10:57:26 PM
I'm afraid that I started this by my reference to The Hound of the Baskervilles, but we're getting perilously close to being transferred to the Whimsical Weirdness and Foolery thread. My apologies.
Title: Re: Please tell me the RR's typeface again
Post by: Hansel Fardon on January 27, 2015, 12:56:03 AM
Ed will have a bone to pick with you.

Better not bark up the wrong tree.
Title: Re: Please tell me the RR's typeface again
Post by: Ed Lecuyer on January 27, 2015, 09:42:40 AM
No, I'm not digging this topic at all.
Title: Re: Please tell me the RR's typeface again
Post by: Hansel Fardon on January 28, 2015, 01:57:06 AM
This topic has been FURRY quiet lately.
Title: Re: Please tell me the RR's typeface again
Post by: Jock Ellis on February 16, 2015, 09:08:36 AM
Thanks for both the information and entertainment. Who said Maine men didn't have a sense of humor? What I have found out in this project is that:  1. I should have made it bigger somehow and, 2. Trying to rout tongue and groove boards is really tough when you are not set up for keeping long boards perfectly flat. I don't think I'll ever get the dust I created out of my garage.
Title: Re: Please tell me the RR's typeface again
Post by: Carl G. Soderstrom on February 18, 2015, 12:10:25 AM
This may not be the best place to ask - but....
I am going to paint some large scale passenger cars,
Hunter Green seems to approximate the sides but what red is the roof color?
I think it may have been asked before but my memory is not that long-
Its but the hard drive was full that day or it leaked on the pillow soon after.

Carl


Title: Re: Please tell me the RR's typeface again
Post by: Keith Taylor on February 18, 2015, 11:11:14 AM
Carl....for large scale cars I would suggest Krylon Red Oxide primer as a much closer match than the Cottage Red, which I find to be much too red. The coach roofs were painted with red lead or red oxide paints that were closer to a brown color.
Another advantage of the Krylon Red Oxide is it is available in spray cans.

Keith
Title: Re: Please tell me the RR's typeface again
Post by: Carl G. Soderstrom on February 19, 2015, 12:38:40 AM
Keith
Will check that again - I thought it a leettle too brown. Others too red.
Like the song says - I'll keep on searching. ;D
Title: Re: Please tell me the RR's typeface again
Post by: Keith Taylor on February 19, 2015, 07:45:27 AM
Have you looked at Scalecoat Oxide red?

Keith
Title: Re: Please tell me the RR's typeface again
Post by: Carl G. Soderstrom on February 20, 2015, 01:18:00 AM
Keith
Just started

Might look at Toro Red with weathering.
or Oliver Red that is not too garish.
Title: Re: Please tell me the RR's typeface again
Post by: Keith Taylor on February 20, 2015, 06:47:11 AM
Carl....look at box car red too. True red oxide is closer to the brown side of things than the red side.

Keith
Title: Re: Please tell me the RR's typeface again
Post by: Carl G. Soderstrom on February 24, 2015, 01:50:38 AM
Keith - Was thinking that as I watched "Trains & Locomotives" or "Brick Red" but that is like saying "Flesh"