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Worldwide Narrow Gauges => Two Footers outside of the US => Topic started by: Wayne Laepple on April 29, 2013, 06:23:02 PM

Title: the Port Elizabeth two-footer
Post by: Wayne Laepple on April 29, 2013, 06:23:02 PM

Here's a link to a wonderful site with loads of information and great photos of the South African Railways two-foot gauge line from Port Elizabeth to Avontuur. Great stuff!

https://sites.google.com/site/soulorailway/home/system-3-1

Title: Re: the Port Elizabeth two-footer
Post by: Wayne Laepple on July 20, 2013, 11:24:38 AM

Here's a link to the next installment about this two-footer:

https://sites.google.com/site/soulorailway/home/system-3-1/port-elizabeth---loerie-passenger-service-general-freight-fruit-traffic-and-the-apple-express

Title: Re: the Port Elizabeth two-footer
Post by: Steve Smith on July 20, 2013, 11:42:25 AM

Nice! Thanks Wayne.

Title: Re: the Port Elizabeth two-footer
Post by: Ira Schreiber on July 20, 2013, 12:37:37 PM

Teriffic reading on a two foot system.
Great reporting.
Thanks,
Ira

Title: Re: the Port Elizabeth two-footer
Post by: Wayne Laepple on August 28, 2013, 05:41:50 PM

Here's the third installment -- lots of gorgeous color photos included.

https://sites.google.com/site/soulorailway/home/system-3-1/part-4-loerie-to-assegaaibos

Title: Re: the Port Elizabeth two-footer
Post by: Keith Taylor on September 06, 2013, 08:14:03 AM

Quote from: Wayne Laepple on August 28, 2013, 05:41:50 PM

Here's the third installment -- lots of gorgeous color photos included.

https://sites.google.com/site/soulorailway/home/system-3-1/part-4-loerie-to-assegaaibos

In photo 13 they refer to the loco as a "Bagnall Class 40." It sure looks like a Baldwin to me!

Keith

Title: Re: the Port Elizabeth two-footer
Post by: Bernie Perch on September 06, 2013, 08:55:09 AM

I just purchased a W. G. Bagnall, Ltd catalogue.  On Page 39 is a photo of the locomotive.  Quoting the catalogue:  "Locomotive for narrow gauge railways.  Six wheels coupled, 4 wheel leading bogie and 8 wheel bogie tender.  Built with bar frames and outside cranks.  Specially designed for passenger and light goods service on the Cape Government Railways.  A very satisfactory type of engine for those preferring the American design."

Bernie

Title: Re: the Port Elizabeth two-footer
Post by: Keith Taylor on September 06, 2013, 10:30:44 AM

Hi Bernie;
I wonder of Baldwin could have sued for design infringement? They sure do look like Baldwins!
There is a Bagnall builders photo here: http://wildebeast-ontherighttrack.blogspot.com/2010/04/sar-ng7-ng8s.html
That little locomotive would look right at home here in Maine!
Keith

Title: Re: the Port Elizabeth two-footer
Post by: Bernie Perch on September 06, 2013, 11:05:50 AM

Keith,

I was out for a bit and was about to scan and send the photo to you when I saw your post.  Not all cute American styled locomotives were American built.  I agree with you that it would fit perfectly in Maine and not even a trained eye would know the difference that it was a foreign locomotive. 

Baldwin and other American builders also build some nice two footers for South America which would have looked great in Maine, too.  There are two existing Porter 2-6-2's in Brazil which I would love to bring back.

Bernie

Title: Re: the Port Elizabeth two-footer
Post by: Keith Taylor on September 06, 2013, 11:37:19 AM

Hi Bernie;
In the article at the above link it does mention that the design was based on Baldwin Moguls that were previously imported. So I don't feel too bad about mistaking them for Baldwins!
Keith

Title: Re: the Port Elizabeth two-footer
Post by: Wayne Laepple on October 15, 2013, 03:33:19 PM

Here's the next chapter:

https://sites.google.com/site/soulorailway/home/system-3-1/part-7-avontuur-to-assegaaibos   “