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WW&F Railway Museum Discussion => Museum Discussion => Topic started by: Matthew Gustafson on December 01, 2008, 10:26:11 AM

Title: Which is more powerful #9 or #10 that can pull a longer train?
Post by: Matthew Gustafson on December 01, 2008, 10:26:11 AM

I say #9 because it has more larger driving wheels than #10!  :)

Title: Re: Which is more powerful #9 or #10 that can pull a longer train?
Post by: Ed Lecuyer on December 01, 2008, 10:28:36 AM

#9 is a bigger/more powerful loco than #10. Others here can site the specific details - although I don't think that the size of the driving wheels has much to do with it.

Title: Re: Which is more powerful #9 or #10 that can pull a longer train?
Post by: James Patten on December 01, 2008, 12:14:08 PM

#10 is approximately 12 tons; #9 is about 18 tons.  #9 is larger overall than #10, which you'd expect for another 50% of engine.

#10 also has a very small boiler and firebox, which greatly affects how much steam it can generate while working.  It's a good engine for either small trains (1 or 2 cars is ideal) or short distances (a mile or two), which is why Edaville (which liked 5 or 6 car trains for its 5 mile loop) didn't use it once it returned from Pleasure Island.

#9 is much beefier than #10 as well.  The frame is thicker, parts are bigger.  The boiler & firebox is also much larger, allowing for greater steaming capacity.

#9 is what I like to call a long distance engine.  It's designed to operate a long ways between needing water and fuel, which is exactly what you found on the SR&RL, KC, and WW&F.  #10 was designed for operating around the flat sugar cane fields and factory, where it was never far from water or fuel.

Title: Re: Which is more powerful #9 or #10 that can pull a longer train?
Post by: Stephen Hussar on December 01, 2008, 01:21:28 PM

There was that one time when just for fun, No 10 pulled every car on the railroad...

(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-8/342468/bigpicniclashupsm.jpg)

Title: Re: Which is more powerful #9 or #10 that can pull a longer train?
Post by: Matthew Gustafson on December 01, 2008, 02:35:38 PM

Quote from: Stephen Hussar on December 01, 2008, 01:21:28 PM

There was that one time when just for fun, No 10 pulled every car on the railroad...

(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-8/342468/bigpicniclashupsm.jpg)

Awsome photo but you guys forgot the green open air car!  :D

Title: Re: Which is more powerful #9 or #10 that can pull a longer train?
Post by: Ed Lecuyer on December 01, 2008, 03:11:21 PM

The open car (103) wasn't ready for service yet. If we even had it then (I don't remember) it probably looked like this:
http://photos.nerail.org/showpic/?200608122244179515.jpg (http://photos.nerail.org/showpic/?200608122244179515.jpg)
http://photos.nerail.org/showpic/?2005121716312226246.jpg (http://photos.nerail.org/showpic/?2005121716312226246.jpg)

As you can see, restoration is a lot of work!