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WW&F Railway Museum Discussion => Museum Discussion => Topic started by: James Patten on July 23, 2011, 05:16:03 PM

Title: Wiscasset Exhibit
Post by: James Patten on July 23, 2011, 05:16:03 PM
Since this has been printed in the newspaper I guess I can report it here.

Steve and Jason proposed to the Town of Wiscasset on Tuesday that the WW&F put an exhibit down at the water front, adjacent to the Maine Eastern tracks and the creamery pier.  We will be building a replica of a Turner Centre Dairying car and putting it on a small bit of track next to the pier.  The idea is that it would have displays about Maine railroads, the Wiscasset waterfront, the Maine Two Footers, and today's Two Footer museums, including the WW&F of course.

We have a junk pair of trucks that we can reassemble and use underneath.  Also a volunteer knows someone who would be willing to give us free lumber, up to 24' long.  So the cost for this will be pretty minimal.
Title: Re: Wiscasset Exhibit
Post by: John McNamara on July 23, 2011, 06:55:40 PM
Great, Great news! :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
Title: Re: Wiscasset Exhibit
Post by: Stewart "Start" Rhine on July 23, 2011, 08:02:07 PM
Much credit goes to Pres. Steve Zuppa who worked directly with the Wiscasset Chamber of Commerce and to CMO Jason Lamontagne who wrote the museums' proposal that was presented to the Sellectmen.

Stewart
Title: Re: Wiscasset Exhibit
Post by: Mike Fox on July 23, 2011, 08:15:26 PM
Great. This had been discussed between several of us for years, and possibly on the old forum if I remember correctly.
Title: Re: Wiscasset Exhibit
Post by: Jeff Schumaker on August 02, 2011, 09:44:42 AM
Is the newspaper article online somewhere?

This would be a great idea.

Jeff S.
Title: Re: Wiscasset Exhibit
Post by: Ken Fleming on August 02, 2011, 09:21:15 PM
Sounds great.  However, I always believed that a  "Turner" car in yellow with green metal roof would been a great addition to our rolling stock on mixed trains.  Others had tank cars, etc.  But only the WW&F had a "two-foot reefer".  Maybe someday a second Turner can be built with good trucks for road service (as a tool car).
Title: Re: Wiscasset Exhibit
Post by: Pete "Cosmo" Barrington on August 05, 2011, 10:46:09 PM
Oooohhh yeah!
In keeping with the standards/traditions of other museums, we can number them sequentially starting one # higher than the last one built.
Title: Re: Wiscasset Exhibit
Post by: Jeff Schumaker on August 13, 2011, 12:09:19 PM
James,

Is there anything new to report on this?

Jeff S.
Title: Re: Wiscasset Exhibit
Post by: James Patten on August 13, 2011, 05:25:47 PM
Siding lumber has been donated by NC Hunt Lumber.  Beyond that, no.
Title: Re: Wiscasset Exhibit
Post by: Jason M Lamontagne on August 15, 2011, 07:09:33 PM
Patterns for boxcar castings not in stock will be brought to the foundry this week.  We actually have most of what we need-- keeping cost down.  Journal boxes are on hand thanks to a find by Josh Recave many years ago-- that would have been the biggest item.  We're getting one pedestal, 8 queen posts, 4 bolster end caps, and a few other odds and ends.

We've got a couple oak trees on our property which will serve the project well also.

Jason
Title: Re: Wiscasset Exhibit
Post by: Pete "Cosmo" Barrington on August 15, 2011, 10:27:40 PM
I know the idea is to keep costs down, but what are the chances of having multiple castings made with an eye toward future projects?
Title: Re: Wiscasset Exhibit
Post by: John McNamara on September 16, 2011, 04:41:38 PM
I'm sure that this is "old news" to most Forum readers, but in the process of doing some research for the September/October WW&F Newsletter, I happened upon a picture of Number 65, the Turner Centre Dairying reefer, on page 130 of Two Feet to Tidewater, second edition.

-John
Title: Re: Wiscasset Exhibit
Post by: Ed Lecuyer on October 11, 2011, 07:21:28 PM
I am of need of photos of the TCDA car project as it is currently. Photos of the reassembled trucks and/or woodwork would be ideal.

This is for a grant application for possible funding of the non-donated parts, as well as providing a high-quality exhibit/display inside the finished car.

Please email me at ed@spongeawareness.com if you have any photos that I can use for this purpose.

Thanks,

-Ed
 
Title: Re: Wiscasset Exhibit
Post by: John McNamara on October 11, 2011, 09:02:02 PM
I am of need of photos of the TCDA car project as it is currently. Photos of the reassembled trucks and/or woodwork would be ideal.

Needless to say, your friendly local newsletter editor (johnmcnamara1@verizon.net) would also be interested. ;D

-John
Title: Re: Wiscasset Exhibit
Post by: Brendan Barry on October 12, 2011, 10:51:21 PM
I don't know if it will help anybody but feel free to take any of the photos in my photobucket account  about the car and sawmill in the thread in the volunteer secton.
Title: Re: Wiscasset Exhibit
Post by: Stewart "Start" Rhine on October 13, 2011, 07:03:41 AM
This doesn't fit into what Ed mentioned but the round stock for the car arrived last Friday.  The steel is for the truss rods, cross trusses, and journal box bolts.  Did anyone get photos of it when it was out front?
Title: Re: Wiscasset Exhibit
Post by: Ed Lecuyer on October 13, 2011, 08:26:15 AM
FYI. I have completed the grant application with the photos I had. There is a limit of 5 photos. I included two historic photos of the car at the creamery wharf, a drawing of the car, a photo of the trucks, and a photo of our friends from the Naugy helping with the construction.

Thanks for everyone's help.
Title: Re: Wiscasset Exhibit
Post by: Dave Crow on October 13, 2011, 09:34:30 AM
Stewart, I took a photo of the bar stock when it was out front and right where I was drilling the body bolster steel.

As a note to everyone, we're trying to obtain, hopefully for free, two sets of cam-lock door lock hardware for the side doors.  The cam-lock hardware is what you see on tractor trailer doors and shipping containers.  However, we need older-style hardware; not the modern, flat-stock door handles, but the ones where the handle looks like a forging or a casting.  Something like this:

(http://i1179.photobucket.com/albums/x391/dcrow1050/WWF%20Work%20Weekend%20October%202011/172PolarHoldtiteDoorLockPic.jpg)

Also, the door hinges appear to be tee-hinge strap hinges, with the visible door portion having a length about 10 inches.  If anyone has a lead on 12 of them, please let us know!

Thanks,
Dave Crow
Title: Re: Wiscasset Exhibit
Post by: Mike Fox on October 13, 2011, 07:02:05 PM
A thought. Try a truck junkyard. Some of the older trailers may have just what you are looking for. In the Augusta area there is a company called White & Bradstreet  (http://www.white-bradstreet.com/) that may have what you are looking for, or be able to find something similar nationally.
Title: Re: Wiscasset Exhibit
Post by: Dave Crow on October 14, 2011, 07:29:17 AM
Mike,

I'm hoping to get more people involved in the project by having folks check around for items like the cam door locks.  If anyone - especially the folks that are in New England (for ease of transport to the museum) - find cam door locks or the door hinges, please post here on the Forum so that everyone else knows the parts are available.

At the same time, I will check some of the junk/salvage yards down here as well; as long as I don't have to take the whole rest of the truck body/container just to get the door locks!

Dave
Title: Re: Wiscasset Exhibit
Post by: Mike Fox on October 14, 2011, 06:47:56 PM
I can do some searching around here. Limited for the next month or so but I will keep my eyes open.
Title: Re: Wiscasset Exhibit
Post by: Mike the Choochoo Nix on October 16, 2011, 08:22:24 PM
Friend of mine is scraping a 1950's era trailer, I'll see what it has on it. The shafts would be too big to ship but the handle and latches should fit in a flat rate express box.
Mike Nix
Title: Re: Wiscasset Exhibit
Post by: Dave Crow on October 17, 2011, 09:42:36 AM
Mike Nix, that would be great if the hardware - without the long sections of pipe - could be shipped to the museum.  Don't forget we need the keepers that mount to the trailer body itself.  I can always sand blast the parts to make it easier to operate and to be able to attach new pipe.
Thanks,
Dave Crow