W.W.&F. Discussion Forum
WW&F Railway Museum Discussion => Museum Discussion => Topic started by: Stephen Hussar on October 31, 2010, 07:28:53 AM
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Here's an unusual lantern...can anyone guess what it is, and where it came from? If this an easy one for you, hold off so others have a chance to log on and see it. More photos and the answer to follow!
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-8/342468/kerosenelantern.jpg)
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Interesting. Is there some glass missing?
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No, it's just really clean Mike!
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-8/342468/cuhurricaneglass_sm.jpg)
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Whale oil or paraffin?
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Hi Stephen,
It looks like an exterior depot lantern, at least similar to the one that used to hang on the North Bridgton station.
Best Regards,
Glenn
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Robert, Lanterns that burned whale oil had round wicks in the two-port burner font. The pot was made of glass because whale oil would eat through the tin. Whale oil went out of use around 1895 when coal oil was introduced. Railroads used tall globe lanterns for both whale oil and coal oil because it gave a better draft which gave a brighter flame. Kerosene replaced coal oil around WWI and railroads switched to the newer short globe hand lanterns that used less fuel. The burner type was not changed because the same type burner is used for coal oil or kero. The lantern shown has a glass pot with a flat wick coal oil/kero burner. The fuel looks clear so it's probably burning parafin oil.
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my high school metal shop project?
just kidding
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We're getting warmer though, eh Stewart?! 8)
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Glenn is on the right track ...
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Well since this is in the "Museum Discussion" area I'm guessing it has something to do with the WW&F. So my guess is that it's a depot lantern that hung in Wiscasset station.
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Definitely a station lamp...
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-8/342468/lanterntopsm.jpg)
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-8/342468/Palermostationfrontsm.jpg)
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HIGHLY cool!
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When Carson Peck bought the WW&F new hand lanterns were purchased from the Dietz Company in New York. Other lanterns that came from the same manufacturer were post lamps and station lanterns. The station lantern pictured came from am old house in the Windsor area and is believed to have been used on the station at Palermo. The Moody photo shows what could be the same lantern or the same model on the Palermo station in 1934.
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that's very cool
nice find
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Wow...
that's almost eerie, in a very cool way! ;D
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Just wondering out loud but could this be something that could be reproduced and sold? I'd love to have a set or two for my back deck area. Hmmmmm...
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A tin shop could make the frame, chimney top, and reflector. They could make a tin pot as well. The job could be done at a shop like the one at Old Sturbridge Village in MA. Then you'd have to get the glass sides and get an oil font with a glass chimney. There's probably a company that makes old fashioned lanterns although they may be the electric version.
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Try:
http://www.lehmans.com/store/Lamps_Lights___Lanterns___Dietz___Black_Dietz_Decorative_Oil_Lantern___37455?Args= (http://www.lehmans.com/store/Lamps_Lights___Lanterns___Dietz___Black_Dietz_Decorative_Oil_Lantern___37455?Args=)
Disclaimer: I have purchased from Lehman Hardware, but have no financial interest :)
-John
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Its a Dietz Climax station lantern as described in the w.t.kirkman website,@ www.lanternnet.com this site is great for most all of Dietz lanterns,history and specks and has numerous links such as restoration,globes,parts and pieces. i saw a reproduction of this lamp in the website in the e=store box on the upper left hand corner of the homepage,scroll down at the offerings and you shall see the W.T.Kirkman Climax station lantern copy of the Dietz lantern,30# of black painted galvanized steel,priced at 299.99
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Hi Galo, Good to see you on the forum. Thanks for the link, great site. I see they make reproduction ceiling lamps for historic railroad cars. They could make lamps for coach 3 if we draw up specs.
Stewart
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That site is very detail oriented as they even carry a selection of rust out parts like the tubular draft elbows on the Dietz pioneer street lanterns, there is also a link on how to seal fuel tanks with pinholes in them or in the historic section tell when a particular lamp was made, a detail change and color changes and the years they were done,the beacon lantern and the dash lantern i brought in during spring workweek were restored based on the proper color information using brushed on enamels as spray painting was not invented and brushed paint is thicker and last a lot longer and has more gloss retention that thin spray paint. I am currently restoring a brass 1894 double student lamp and will post a picture as soon as i find out how to get it done,as you can see, i am new to these type of forums.Im so late with this technology i joined Facebook 3 weeks ago to keep in touch with family members that communicate in that format,Gman.
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hey john, thanks for the link to lehmann's hardware. when i saw the price of $34.95 for the lantern, i knew it was going to be chinzy but i ordered a couple anyway, they arrived today and i was right, real light and flimsy. and smaller than the original on the depot looks, at 10" tall with the box 5" square. but a good value at such a low price. if i get too much static for them, my wife who called them 'cute' wants them for the back porch LOL.... dale
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Dale,
Thank you for the thank you. ;)
-John