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BUFF B-52, Air Force, Snoring, and French.
John Kokas:
Bill & Alain,
Bill your references are spot on, but there is another that i learned during my time I was stationed at Mather AFB, CA and the B-52 unit was the 320th Bomb Group with (G) models. Apparently, with the G and the later H models the internal changes made for electronics and other instrumentation had a negative effect on the aircraft ventilation system which was especially obvious during hot weather. The smell which was compared to the flatus produced after eating a dead carcass or a baby diaper that has sat in the sun for a couple of days were fitting having experienced a small dose of it when a 320th buddy of mine gave me a tour on a weekend off. Their definition of BUFF - Big Ugly Fat Fart ........
Luckily for me, I graduated flight school in the upper tier so I got my choice of aircraft - the glorious F-4 Phantom. During my career I got to fly the D, E, and G models of the Phantom. The G model being the most hazardous of missions and saved for those of us who were considered a wee bit crazy by our peers. Thus closes another topic of historic trivia and as they say in French. C'est Fini !!
Bill Baskerville:
Thanks John, Haven't heard that one. Of course I never flew on G or H models. When our D's were modified with the Big Belly mod, they also received extensive ECM (Electronic Counter Measures for Alain) upgrades. This took the F models out of the Viet Nam Arc Light realm until the big Linebacker II push in December of 72 when the F's and G's came back into use. The lack of ECM upgrades on those models really came to light with the loss rate over Hanoi and Haiphong.
ALAIN DELASSUS:
Thank you so much Bill and John for your explanations and memorises about that mesmerazing aircraft that can be displaced by any other one. It's kind of like B 747 the airliner I most like with A 340; Jumbo has been around in decades and will be still in the air for many years as a cargo but I think it wont outlive the buff. if jumbo's big it's not fat like A 380. B 747 is elegant above all the last version 747-800. I flew on a 747-400 between Honk Hong and Auckland and return and a A 340 between Paris and Honk Kong and return. Cherished memories. BTW Bill I can log on to the both sites you gave me because there are using a security service to protect themselves from attacks an ECM of sorts I guess. W'll talk soon about French and maybe snoring I experienced in AMTP dormitory.
ALAIN DELASSUS:
About tne meaning of FOAMER ; I checked up in my Larousse English- French dictionnary and I found that buff means also enthusiast. a wine buff un amateur de vin or an history buff un mordu d'histoire. In French we have other words that mean enthusiast like mordu ,fana , dingue, accro, fondu etc like in English I know buff of course but freak, fiend and addict as well. But on fb I often read the word foamer mostly when I was following Big Boy during its trips outwest and through the Midwest in 2019. I think it means enthusiast but I've never found this word in any dictionnary so far. It would be great if you could tell what it exactly means and if it's related to the word foam that means mousse in French. Faire de la mousse or se faire mousser can be translated like to sell oneself or to praise oneself.
John Kokas:
The term Foamer is used for those people who are obsessive about trains, steam locomotives especially. The foaming is an observation from a person who had many dogs and observed that when they got very excited that they would foam at the mouth. There have been occasions where I have been at events where I swear people have rushed up wild-eyed trying to view the train and literally foaming at the sides of their mouths.
The other term you will hear is "squirrel". That is a railfan but also works in the railroad industry full-time. They aren't anywhere a bad as foamers since if they were caught violating a railroad rule or caught on video doing so would probably result in their termination from work.
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