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Another extant 2 ft. gauge Baldwin pacific
« on: June 17, 2009, 02:03:42 AM »
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Stephen Hussar wrote:
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Found this on the NGDF but thought it should be linked here as well. Its future appears to be in question...too bad shipping from South Africa is SO very expensive!
http://www.sandstone-estates.com/heritage/rail/Loco_info/No61_Baldwin.htm


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pockets replied:
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Stephen,
Thank you for the link. What a great site.

Greg B.

Stephen Hussar replied:
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And a shot from 1961...

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Joe Fox replied:
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The engine looks like it could easily be made into one of the SR&RL locomotives, with minor changes.

Joe

Mike Fox replied:
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Nice Baldwin. Could be Americanized with some effort.
Mike

NGFan replied:
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maybe it might not be a bad idea to contact the foundation to ask their intentions.  even if it was a long-term (20+ year) lease, where else would you ever find this wheel arrangement today except build it from scratch.

The worst that can happen is they say no thanks.......

John

John McNamara replied:
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The worst that can happen is they say no thanks.......
The worse thing they can say, is "Sure. We just shipped it to you freight collect from South Africa." 

mfrancoeur replied:
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Just out of curiousity, what would be the shipping cost for something like this?

NGFan replied:
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With some direct experience about this, I will say the cost to move something like this will cost more from East Coast port to new home than from off-shore to port.  Hard to believe but unfortunately true.

John

P.S. Organizations just don't ship things without agreements - Silly answer...

petecosmob replied:
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John says:
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With some direct experience about this, I will say the cost to move something like this will cost more from East Coast port to new home than from off-shore to port.  Hard to believe but unfortunately true.

Well,...actually, (depending on the port,) that's GOOD! There are ways to cut costs transporting "the thing" over land, ( ie: use own trucks, use friends truck...) that wouldn't be as applicable to shippinng from overseas.
Here's the thing, could it be near as expensiv as bringing nearly the entire Edaville colection up to Portland? Also, the B&ML had to bring thier steamer home, although they may have used the existing RR for that too.
Aaahhhh,....I'm just rambling here. There's bigger fish to fry. Maybe after #'s 9 and (B&SRR) 7 are finnished and #11 is well on the way something like that may be worth a look. Who knows?
Pete

Mike Fox replied:
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Maybe someone in the Navy could arrange a "transportation exercise" and get it done on the governments tab. Just kidding but they did use to transport things like that. Back in the war days.
Mike

petecosmob replied:
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I'll get right on that! 

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Maybe someone in the Navy could arrange a "transportation exercise" and get it done on the governments tab. Just kidding but they did use to transport things like that. Back in the war days.
Mike

NGFan replied:
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Can we say Portsmouth Navy Yard?  Yeah - sure we can.........

Not to mention, if you can get some "inside support" (hint hint), getting help from the National Guard for transportation and/or construction projects can and are done for 501c3's.  Been there - done that.......

John

petecosmob replied:
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Umm,...as scarry as it seems, I have contacts there as well! Do you mind if it's the NY Nat'l Guard? 
It'd have to wait until after my friend Scott gets back from the sandbox, buuuuttttt........
I'll tely'a what I'm gonna do...I'll make a deal.
I'll getcha' that locomotive moved IF...you guys can get those 3' cutoff tie sections to my house in CT!! (I need at least 10,...maybe 20!)
Pete

Ira Schreiber replied:
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I would be happy to transport them to CT in exchange for the Baldwin. Just say when..........
Ira

Josh Botting replied:
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Beleive it or not, the Portsmouth Naval Ship Yard did a bunch of work for the Lombard from Leonards Mills.

Believe it or not, the weight and handeling of a locomotive of that size are insignificant to most any comercial or naval cargo ship.  So it wouldn't be a big deal to move one , if you could just catch the ear of someone with a  ship in the area.....

mfrancoeur replied:
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It is obvious that the WW&F membership and friends are a group of can do people.  So I would like to propose that nothing is "off the table".  If anyone finds an "item of interest", one that the BOD deems appropriate if not desirable for the museum, then bring it to the membership.  If the BOD can work out the donation or cheap* buy/lease, I'm sure the membership can work out the transportation issues.

- Mike

* No harm in being frugal.

Bill Sample replied:
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Imagine what a sight it would have been if a couple of those neat little Baldwin Pacifics had been built for Maine service, say on a completed WW&F-FS&K-SR&RL through route.  What a sight it would have been to see one heading a train over the mighty Kennebec River.
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