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Portland, Fryeburg and Western?
« on: January 22, 2009, 03:38:32 AM »
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Steve Smith wrote:
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Interesting item in today's Portland paper.
http://pressherald.mainetoday.com/story.php?id=200572&ac=PHnws
Hold onto your B & S R stock boys, train travel from Washington DC to Bridgeton may rise again!
Oily

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I fixed the URL in Steve's post to point to the first page of the article.
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Mike Fox replied:
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Too bad the section they just bought has no rails on it. Then owner Guilford scrapped it 3 or so years ago. But it makes it easier to rebuild.
Mike

petecosmob replied:
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Too bad the section they just bought has no rails on it. Then owner Guilford scrapped it 3 or so years ago. But it makes it easier to rebuild.
Mike
True enough,...
just the idea that PAR/Big G, (whatever,) finally let GO of it is pretty amazing!
Wow,... Mt Div restoraton, Calais branch, who knows what's next?

James Patten replied:
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I'm suspicious that Guilford/PAR are up to their old tricks, somehow, such as retaining some right to operate trains if certain criteria are met, or retaining ownership of a 10-foot section of ROW in the middle of what the State bought and not allowing any trains on it.

Stephen Hussar replied:
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...retaining ownership of a 10-foot section of ROW in the middle of what the State bought and not allowing any trains on it.
They did something similar in Hampton, NH...they kept a 1500' stretch, rendering the state's purchase of miles of ROW, useless. Millions, of yours and my tax dollars.
In my opinion, when it comes to land ownership of a rail corridor, that practice should be illegal. At the very least, the various states involved in these transactions should make Guilford/Pan Am keep paying taxes on the entire piece...because after all, by holding on to a short section they still maintain control of what happens to the entire line, and are the only ones benefitting from the deal!

Wayne Laepple replied:
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It's not only Guilford/Pan Am who does this. I've worked for several shortlines in the old Conrail territory, and in most cases, Conrail kept for itself some segment between the switch off the main line and the shortline's ownership. Often this was done to keep the shortline from establishing direct interchange with a carrier other than Conrail which was exercising trackage rights. Other times, it was to serve a customer or two near the junction point.
But there were occasions when it was just plain stubbornness.  On one line, we were stymied from getting into a yard to set out. Instead, we had to run around our cars about 2 miles from the junction and shove them down. Sometimes, when we got there, we found the Conrail yard job had already set out our cars, and we had to drag everything back to the runaround. Talk about aggravation!
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