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Re: Event Pavilion for Alna Center - Official Reassembly Thread
« Reply #45 on: November 30, 2019, 01:47:00 AM »
Bigger bases where there is more fill. The others should be close to the hard pan, also known as blue clay.
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Re: Event Pavilion for Alna Center - Official Reassembly Thread
« Reply #46 on: November 30, 2019, 09:39:44 PM »
And the rebar looks more like #3 (3/8") diameter.
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Re: Event Pavilion for Alna Center - Official Reassembly Thread
« Reply #47 on: December 01, 2019, 12:09:03 AM »
So, Mother Nature has kicked my butt. The ground went from workable to frozen solid in one day. I was unable to dig before lunch due to the frozen ground, and the Kubota not wanting to work properly.

So after lunch, we got 2 more tubes in for a total of 9.

As long as we can get the cement poured, we will be able to build 30 feet of building over the winter. Not much other choice. Unless it comes off warm for a few days.



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Re: Event Pavilion for Alna Center - Official Reassembly Thread
« Reply #48 on: December 01, 2019, 02:49:57 AM »
Dave B. shovels Saturday afternoon while Mike operates the Kubota, back filling one of the sonnet tubes.
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Re: Event Pavilion for Alna Center - Official Reassembly Thread
« Reply #49 on: December 01, 2019, 03:40:06 AM »
As long as we can get the cement poured, we will be able to build 30 feet of building over the winter.
As a general reference, the original pavilion structure is 30ft x 80ft.

I couldn't remember ::) the pavilion size, so I went looking for the 'disassembly' thread. Once I found that thread, I decided I would post that link here, but just before I did that, I saw that  in the first post of this thread Ed had already posted links to not only the disassembly thread (which has photos), but also other pavilion links.   ;D

So this a reminder that links to all kinds of pavilion data can be found in post #1, or here is a direct link to post #1:
http://forum.wwfry.org/index.php/topic,3462.0.html



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Re: Event Pavilion for Alna Center - Official Reassembly Thread
« Reply #50 on: December 01, 2019, 05:24:24 AM »
The grave digger in Houston Mn hand dug all winter. Even when it had been more than 20 below. Granted it is lighter soil down there.

He would start a large fire and cover it with old roof tin to drive the heat down. He would keep it burning
a couple of days. This was 20YA - don't know if he is still doing it (Paid for his kids's college)

With the snow coming this week don't think it is practicable but a thought - couple - three hours should do it?
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Re: Event Pavilion for Alna Center - Official Reassembly Thread
« Reply #51 on: December 01, 2019, 01:13:39 PM »
Yes Graham, 30x80, with posts about 10 feet apart (9' 11", to keep the outside lengthwise dimension at 80'). There was supposed to be blue prints someplace, but we haven't seen them yet so guessing going by what I was told, measuring the trusses, and Brendans pictures.

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Re: Event Pavilion for Alna Center - Official Reassembly Thread
« Reply #52 on: December 02, 2019, 12:07:20 AM »
The pavilion at Maine Maritime was to cover the restoration of Schooner Mary E.  That was successful and we were offered the pavilion.  We don't need the full 80' length of that original.  Mike can tell us how we arrived at the shortened length for AC.

BTW, everyone should plan a visit to the Maine Maritime Museum in Bath.  It is fantastic...

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Re: Event Pavilion for Alna Center - Official Reassembly Thread
« Reply #53 on: December 02, 2019, 12:41:17 AM »
I'm pretty sure that Mike was/is planning to reconstruct the full 30ft wide (width of each individual truss) x 80ft long of the original pavilion.  As the poles are nominally 10ft apart, 18 poles are required for the full structure.   But Mike only got 9 holes dug before the ground froze, and [likely] there are only 4 pairs of 'opposing' pole bases  that can support a truss. So, 4 trusses = 30 linear feet [maximum] of installed roof, until more pole bases can be set in the defrosted ground.
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Re: Event Pavilion for Alna Center - Official Reassembly Thread
« Reply #54 on: December 02, 2019, 01:47:46 AM »
Graham, you are paying attention. We have the first 4 sets of holes ready for cement, and I also have the North West corner sonotube ready, but a long ways (50 feet) from the rest of the building.

So, we decided informally yesterday that with 8 holes ready, they are the furthest east toward the railroad, we can assemble that end and even use it. We can then finish the rest of the 80 feet in warmer weather between use of the facility, or possibly even before the first scheduled use. That is what Dave and I had a quick discussion about yesterday, and is the best possible outcome this late in the year.
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Re: Event Pavilion for Alna Center - Official Reassembly Thread
« Reply #55 on: December 02, 2019, 02:30:05 AM »
We'll get a warm break after this next storm,  Hopefully it will last long enough to get the rest of the holes and concrete done.  I hope we're leaving an area open for a BBQ pit so we can have the Member's picnic in Alna Center next year.
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Re: Event Pavilion for Alna Center - Official Reassembly Thread
« Reply #56 on: December 02, 2019, 10:25:01 AM »
I think a pit would have to be on the East end of the building near the rock piles. Probably Three thousand in gravel would be a nice donation for that area so it could be built with plenty of safety around it. That's the only way I think it could be done. I think that type of project should be all donations. The whole project is a learning event for our railroad. Hopefully we'll be able to make 4 or 5 thousand at each event someday I think we've fount out the better known the band the more money we'll make. Live and learn!
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Re: Event Pavilion for Alna Center - Official Reassembly Thread
« Reply #57 on: December 02, 2019, 03:11:33 PM »
I think we've fount out the better known the band the more money we'll make. Live and learn!
Given the location by the rock pile, maybe the Rolling Stones would be appropriate?

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Re: Event Pavilion for Alna Center - Official Reassembly Thread
« Reply #58 on: December 02, 2019, 03:23:40 PM »
I bet we would make money!

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Re: Event Pavilion for Alna Center - Official Reassembly Thread
« Reply #59 on: December 02, 2019, 03:28:43 PM »
I don't understand,when I mention the word DONATE it gets very quite on this web site. By the way with all that stone,if we filled the "pit" with water we could call it PEBBLE BEACH, We'd make money then.