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Stephen Hussar

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B&SR coach 11 at Boothbay
« on: August 04, 2008, 01:07:24 AM »
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Re: B&SR coach 11 at Boothbay
« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2008, 12:30:14 PM »
Nice Pic .  Is the red roof something Bothbay added or is there some historical fact to that.  Just wondering.

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Re: B&SR coach 11 at Boothbay
« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2008, 02:09:57 PM »
Wow, imagine seeing that beautifull car being pulled in Bridgton by #7. Great pic Steve. How often does Boothbay run this coach?

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Re: B&SR coach 11 at Boothbay
« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2008, 12:59:59 AM »
The roof color most likely was originally that way. Over the years, the soot coats it to make it look more maroon or even black.
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Re: B&SR coach 11 at Boothbay
« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2008, 03:21:56 AM »
Interesting.....
old color films of the B&H show the entire car to be a caboose or "oxide" red! Was that not the original livery? I suppose it's possible it was cheaper to paint the coaches that color durring the last days of the B&H. ;)

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Re: B&SR coach 11 at Boothbay
« Reply #5 on: August 05, 2008, 11:12:45 AM »
It was after much research by the fellows at Boothbay Railway Village that they determined the color you see to be the proper color green (I think it's called Brunswick Green but I forget).  They found the color after stripping the car of paint.  Also Coach 3 proved to have that same color underneath the Edaville Yellow.

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Re: B&SR coach 11 at Boothbay
« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2008, 03:38:58 PM »
James,

I was refering to the roof,

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Re: B&SR coach 11 at Boothbay
« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2008, 04:59:36 PM »
James,

I was refering to the roof,

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I think James was responding to Pete Barrington's suggestion that maybe the entire car was red.

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Re: B&SR coach 11 at Boothbay
« Reply #8 on: August 06, 2008, 12:03:26 AM »
John is correct, I was referring to the posting about the entire car being red.

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Re: B&SR coach 11 at Boothbay
« Reply #9 on: August 06, 2008, 01:27:28 AM »
Is coach 11 riding on freight or passenger trucks?

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Re: B&SR coach 11 at Boothbay
« Reply #10 on: August 13, 2008, 05:49:24 PM »
Steve,
Great shot of coach 11.  It looks great standing next to the platform all shiney and painted up like that.  Joe is correct about how nice the combination of #7 and coach 11 would look.
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Re: B&SR coach 11 at Boothbay
« Reply #11 on: August 13, 2008, 10:00:05 PM »
Brendan,

When I visited last September, coach 11 was riding on freight car trucks.  I think they have plans to build a replica set of passenger car trucks at some point...

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Re: B&SR coach 11 at Boothbay
« Reply #12 on: August 13, 2008, 11:04:15 PM »
Regarding the livery of two foot passenger equipment.  The cars had red roofs when new.  The paint was called Red Lead.  The name came from the use of pigment gotten from the acid that steel mills used to wash rust off of metal.  The used red acid was sold to paint companies for the base color in the paint.  Car builders Jackson & Sharp, Billmeyer & Small and Laconia all used red lead paint. 

Some railroads had other liverys but generally passenger car bodies were painted in the Brunswick green that James mentioned.  The color was common in the northeast prior to WW II.  It is similar to a glossy dark Army green.  We know that the SR&RL, B&SR and Maine Central used it.  The original color of W&Q coach 3 was brunswick green with a red lead roof.  As Mike said, soot darkened the roofs over the time.
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Re: B&SR coach 11 at Boothbay
« Reply #13 on: August 17, 2008, 03:15:50 PM »
Hello Stewart, you mention red lead, which is in fact exactly what was used, and was also used by boat builders on wooden hulls. However...the red that I see used at the various Maine two foot gauge museums is not exactly the same shade as red lead. REAL red lead is actually a brownish red...and never glossy. I wonder if the modern paints are not able to exactly dupicate the color due to eliminating lead from the formula?
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Re: B&SR coach 11 at Boothbay
« Reply #14 on: August 17, 2008, 11:53:52 PM »
Hi Keith,  What you said about the roof paint is true.  Real red lead is hard to dulicate without the lead additive.  I tried to match it on the roof of coach 3 when I paint it 8 years ago.  It actually looked a little better once it got a soot coating.   Yes the original red lead paint had more brown in it than anything today.  I could get a better color match if I had an old paint chip from the part of a car roof that is out of the light and weather.

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