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Ed Lecuyer

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Sources for period clothing?
« on: September 10, 2014, 09:24:48 PM »
I have received a number of comments regarding the outfit I wore at the annual picnic (and one week that followed.) As with all good 19th-century heritage items, they can be ordered in the 21st century on the Internet.

Here is the shop I think I got my particular shirt/pants combination from:
http://www.westernemporium.com/western.php
Specifically:
http://www.westernemporium.com/store/oldwest_shirts.php?&type=Work%20Shirts
http://www.westernemporium.com/store/oldwest_trousers.php?&color=Black

I will say that the first shirt that arrived was not what I was expecting, and they exchanged it without any hassle.


They have a companion web site for more formal apparel:
http://www.gentlemansemporium.com/gentlemans.php

Other web sites I found (but have not ordered from) include:
http://www.premierclothing.com/Extra/21-home-page/
and
http://recollections.biz/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=R&Category_Code=Mens
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Re: Sources for period clothing?
« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2014, 12:47:31 AM »
Recent thread from rypn.org covering vintage clothing.

http://www.rypn.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=36957
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Re: Sources for period clothing?
« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2014, 01:21:57 AM »
I was thinking of that thread too Brendan.  Thanks for posting it here.  One of the things I liked about your clothing Ed, was that it reflected the actual clothes that WW&F employees were wearing in photographs.
This is a nice contrast to the overall attitude of wearing overalls (haha) at railway museums.  I think we do a nice job of changing it up with a variety of hats, clothing, etc.

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Re: Sources for period clothing?
« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2014, 03:30:00 AM »
Those 19th century people knew how to dress.
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Re: Sources for period clothing?
« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2014, 12:03:02 AM »
Another good supplier is : http://historicalemporium.com/

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Re: Sources for period clothing?
« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2014, 11:57:49 PM »
All you need is a good set of bibs, a 1,000-Miler shirt and a felt-crusher hat.  Of course a good pair of high-top shoes.  That's what my father wore in 1914 as a brakeman.

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« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2014, 12:10:07 AM »
All you need is a good set of bibs, a 1,000-Miler shirt and a felt-crusher hat.  Of course a good pair of high-top shoes.  That's what my father wore in 1914 as a brakeman.
Ken...that works great if you are in freight service, but the WW&F also runs passenger trains. Also at events where vintage scenes are recreated, the railroad also needs folks dressed in "period" clothes to represent passengers, freight agents, and customers that are dropping off or receiving LCL shipments.
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Re: Sources for period clothing?
« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2014, 08:13:05 PM »
Were the W&Q/WW&F trainmen in "uniform" service?  I don't think so.  I guess someone will have to hit the archives looking for uniform wear.

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Re: Sources for period clothing?
« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2014, 10:58:33 PM »
I can't say that I really see a uniform in the old pictures from any of the train crew.  Even the RPO guy didn't appear to have a uniform.  Instead I see a lot of overalls/coveralls on engine crew and train crew alike.

This is the reason I wear the "English driver's hat", there are some pictures of people with that kind of hat on the crew.

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« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2014, 11:09:59 PM »
That type of flat cap was quite common for working men a hundred years ago. I've seen many photos of men and boys working in coal breakers wearing that style of cap. Many of the Welsh and Irish mine workers wore those, while the various Slovak men wore caps that looked more like a five-piece cap with a soft bill, which were common in their former countries.

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Re: Sources for period clothing?
« Reply #10 on: December 01, 2014, 12:27:47 AM »
A lot of the track workers wore pants and shirts in a quite a few pictures I have seen. All I am missing is the rope belt...
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Re: Sources for period clothing?
« Reply #11 on: December 01, 2014, 05:33:16 PM »
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Re: Sources for period clothing?
« Reply #12 on: December 01, 2014, 06:21:41 PM »
I've certainly seen pictures of SR&RL passenger crews (conductors and brakemen) in uniform, but I doubt the WW&F would have done such a thing.

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« Reply #13 on: December 02, 2014, 05:21:22 PM »
Today I pulled out my copy of Two Feet to Tidewater. (Expanded and Updated Edition)
Even the cover photo which shows an engineer, aside from his overalls, is wearing a white shirt and tie!
Railroading used to be a very respected job and folks dressed to show their status.
On Page 61 the gentleman standing near the rear coach in the center photo is wearing a full conductor's uniform with cap, vest and saque coat. (a.k.a "sack" coat)
On page 123 the mail car attendant is also wearing a full uniform with cap, suit and vest. You can bet if the mail agent is in uniform....the rest of the train crew is as well. I can see on a "mixed" that the crew would be wearing bibs, but even there a white shirt and tie and uniform cap would be required. Even in the last days of the line, those in contact with the public dressed relatively formally. On page 209 there is a photo of mail clerk Orvis Bonney with a white shirt and tie.
Most of the photos you see were taken of the locomotives, so the people in those photos would primarily be engine crews who would be attired for their line of work.
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« Reply #14 on: February 07, 2018, 10:44:19 PM »
As a complete newbie on the subject, I am interested in learning:

-- What would be considered appropriate period clothing for WW&F train crews; and
-- What sources are folks using today for this clothing?

I'd like to dress better while in public train service (at least for our special events).  I suspect other volunteers would be interested in this information as well.

Thanks!
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