Author Topic: Standards to aspire to in track work  (Read 12834 times)

Keith Taylor

  • Museum Member
  • Engineer
  • ****
  • Posts: 732
  • Life Member
    • View Profile
Standards to aspire to in track work
« on: August 15, 2013, 06:16:46 PM »
Here is a video that should be an inspiration to all narrow gauge track departments.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OOqPLOWiQg&feature=player_embedded

Keith

Mike Fox

  • Museum Member
  • Empire Builder
  • ********
  • Posts: 5,634
    • View Profile
Re: Standards to aspire to in track work
« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2013, 06:33:45 PM »
Talk about a bog track.
Mike
Doing way too much to list...

John McNamara

  • Operating Volunteers
  • Supervisor
  • ******
  • Posts: 1,586
    • View Profile
Re: Standards to aspire to in track work
« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2013, 08:06:22 PM »
Very interesting. The surfacing and lining are much better than the very crude "ties" would suggest. This is particular evident in the last minute or two. Watch the uprights on the train of empties - little or no motion. The loaded train has a little more pitch and roll, but not too bad. I'd certainly rather carry logs on the train than try to get them through that mud-hole road. While we may at first look down our noses at this line, it turns out to work and work well!

-John

Richard "Steam" Symmes

  • Museum Member
  • Fireman
  • ****
  • Posts: 445
    • View Profile
Re: Standards to aspire to in track work
« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2013, 08:29:13 PM »
So, where exactly is K3No4XTYR, and how does one get there to see this engineering marvel?

If it's near to LPrTxOytz3Lt, I'd consider a side trip.

Richard

Tom Casper

  • Museum Member
  • Hostler
  • ***
  • Posts: 205
    • View Profile
    • Sandy Ridge & Clear Lake Ry.
Re: Standards to aspire to in track work
« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2013, 09:53:28 PM »
It in Poland as they build the best pole roads! ;D  Notice the nice safety shoes the guy had on!  It did seem to be very level as hardly any rocking going on.

Tom C.
Later:
tom_srclry_com

Jason M Lamontagne

  • Operating Volunteers
  • Supervisor
  • ******
  • Posts: 1,806
    • View Profile
Re: Standards to aspire to in track work
« Reply #5 on: August 16, 2013, 07:18:52 PM »
I think it's a fascinating example of just how versatile the idea of a railway can be.  Any more intricate engineering in this line would probably be superfluous, given that its probably a temporary line.  Makes me wonder what some of the SR&RL extremities were really like.

I'd love to know more about the line in this video or others like it- just for the sake of knowing.  Imagine steam running on this line.

I think we need a branch to some where...

Jason

Richard "Steam" Symmes

  • Museum Member
  • Fireman
  • ****
  • Posts: 445
    • View Profile
Re: Standards to aspire to in track work
« Reply #6 on: August 16, 2013, 07:29:49 PM »
Well, Jason, when it comes to filling in those big washouts up the line, you could just toss in some random cribbing and fill, lay down a few 5 foot long logs and spike down some of your defective rail pieces. That would give you a pretty good start toward something like this.

I suspect some of the branches up on the Eustis segment of the SR&RL were probably pretty crude. We once hiked way up in there on the Dago Branch and saw some evidence of where a few of those little spurs into the woods used to be. Didn't look like much of any grading had gone on.  Kind of "boggy"  through there too.

Lots of little "finger" sidings went in all directions up around Green's Farm, etc.  I can't imagine any great amount of work went into constructing any of them.  "Log out and get out," was the motto.

Richard

Stewart "Start" Rhine

  • Museum Member
  • Superintendent
  • ********
  • Posts: 3,020
    • View Profile
Re: Standards to aspire to in track work
« Reply #7 on: August 16, 2013, 08:11:41 PM »
Interesting video.  The idea of stacked log cribbing was used in the Pacific Northwest logging lines and the geared engines went over them just fine. Our "woods track" may wind up looking a little like the one in the video, without the poles of course.

Ira Schreiber

  • Museum Member
  • Dispatcher
  • *****
  • Posts: 1,070
  • Life Member
    • View Profile
Re: Standards to aspire to in track work
« Reply #8 on: August 16, 2013, 10:00:08 PM »
It is not Polish, looks more like the Ukraine.

Bill Reidy

  • Museum Member
  • Inspector
  • ******
  • Posts: 1,415
  • Life member. Ack.
    • View Profile
Re: Standards to aspire to in track work
« Reply #9 on: August 17, 2013, 07:51:05 AM »
...I think we need a branch to some where...

How about the world headquarters of the ROWMOW 1 Manufacturing, Inc.?

Via Fred's house, of course.
What–me worry?

Keith Taylor

  • Museum Member
  • Engineer
  • ****
  • Posts: 732
  • Life Member
    • View Profile
Re: Standards to aspire to in track work
« Reply #10 on: August 17, 2013, 10:24:42 AM »
Abe Burnett checked the map.    (Khar-i-ton-ovo) is east of the Urals, so it isn't in Siberia.   (Uz-koko-lay-ee-ka) is one of the words for "narrow gauge railroad."

Keith
« Last Edit: August 17, 2013, 08:19:37 PM by Keith Taylor »

Dave Crow

  • Museum Member
  • Fireman
  • ****
  • Posts: 389
    • View Profile
Re: Standards to aspire to in track work
« Reply #11 on: August 17, 2013, 10:48:33 AM »
Jason, some of the logging railroads in West Virginia would lay track right through the creeks; Meadow River Lumber Company (Rainelle, WV) and Cherry River Lumber Company (Ferndale?, WV) come to mind.  Lots of photos from their last days in the 50's and 60's (and before) operating like that.

Dave Crow

John McNamara

  • Operating Volunteers
  • Supervisor
  • ******
  • Posts: 1,586
    • View Profile
Re: Standards to aspire to in track work
« Reply #12 on: August 17, 2013, 11:58:55 AM »
Abe Burnett checked the map.    ??????????  (Khar-i-ton-ovo) is east of the Urals, so it isn't in Siberia.
Keith

If an English speaker wanted to find it on Google Earth, what would he enter in the Search box?
-John

Keith Taylor

  • Museum Member
  • Engineer
  • ****
  • Posts: 732
  • Life Member
    • View Profile
Re: Standards to aspire to in track work
« Reply #13 on: August 17, 2013, 08:23:09 PM »

If an English speaker wanted to find it on Google Earth, what would he enter in the Search box?
-John

Kharitonovo, Russia

John McNamara

  • Operating Volunteers
  • Supervisor
  • ******
  • Posts: 1,586
    • View Profile
Re: Standards to aspire to in track work
« Reply #14 on: August 17, 2013, 10:23:09 PM »
Google says:

Did you mean:
Kharitonovo, Teykovskiy rayon, Ivanovskaya oblast', Russia
Kharitonovo, Krasnoselskiy rayon, Kostromskaya oblast', Russia
Kharitonovo, Konakovskiy rayon, Tverskaya oblast', Russia
Kharitonovo, Kalininskiy rayon, Tverskaya oblast', Russia
Kharitonovo, Kotlasskiy rayon, Arkhangelskaya oblast', Russia
Kharitonovo, Shuyskiy rayon, Ivanovskaya oblast', Russia
Kharitonovo, Sobinskiy rayon, Vladimirskaya oblast', Russia
Kharitonovo, Uglichskiy rayon, Yaroslavskaya oblast', Russia
Kharitonovo, Rzhevskiy rayon, Tverskaya oblast', Russia