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Work Car 1008 (Tamper "Big Joe") - Official Work Thread
« on: December 10, 2008, 01:18:05 PM »
As has been discussed in other threads, the longer the line gets, the more use we would have for a mechanical tamper. Nothing too big, just something that doesn't wear you out so much. I thought we had a good bite on one, but at this time the owner wants to hang on to it. So unfortunately, we are back to square one. It would have been great to have something to put Jason's idea onto. Anybody have anymore leads on any? Send me a PM if you'd rather keep things quiet. That's the way I would prefer until something is in stone anyhow.
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Re: Work Car 1008 (Tamper "Big Joe") - Official Work Thread
« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2008, 01:26:49 PM »
A tamper deal "set in stone". I get it!   :D
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Re: Work Car 1008 (Tamper "Big Joe") - Official Work Thread
« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2009, 06:59:04 PM »
OK. No replies for a tamper, how about tamper parts? Hydraulic cylinders, drive motors and the like? Something that could be built on a frame.
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Re: Work Car 1008 (Tamper "Big Joe") - Official Work Thread
« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2009, 07:57:36 PM »
Mike, I did look per my PM but it was scrapped about 5 months ago.  Still sniffing though..........
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Re: Work Car 1008 (Tamper "Big Joe") - Official Work Thread
« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2009, 11:35:55 AM »
Well, actually we got a good start on something. It will be quite something if it comes together and function as planned.
This is the frame. The length will be to accomodate a sizeable compressor.


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Re: Work Car 1008 (Tamper "Big Joe") - Official Work Thread
« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2009, 06:33:29 PM »
Here are a few more pics of "Big Joe" coming together in the shop.










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« Reply #6 on: April 05, 2009, 07:36:14 PM »
Anyone notice the Joe Fox cameo appearance in that last shot?  We had to pay big money for that!

Joe will be firing 10 for us this weekend for Easter Express trains, after helping with No 10 prep for the last couple weeks (very dirty work...)

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Re: Work Car 1008 (Tamper "Big Joe") - Official Work Thread
« Reply #7 on: April 05, 2009, 09:16:43 PM »
Here's Joe in the machine shop, at work on No 10...


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Re: Work Car 1008 (Tamper "Big Joe") - Official Work Thread
« Reply #8 on: April 18, 2009, 09:23:03 PM »
video clip of the "Big Joe" tamper being raised and lowered during some testing...and still under construction:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhvVgLQebE4
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Re: Work Car 1008 (Tamper "Big Joe") - Official Work Thread
« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2009, 06:28:26 AM »
Hey Steve,

Thanks for the link. Looks like the tamper is coming along nicely. I thought Jason was going to put four tampers together, and then we would just have to move them from one side to the other.

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Re: Work Car 1008 (Tamper "Big Joe") - Official Work Thread
« Reply #10 on: April 19, 2009, 08:44:11 AM »
Looks great so far.  How do you guys plan to angle the vibrators to squeeze the tie?  Also is the plan to have rail clamps and jacks to be able to handle cross-level?
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Re: Work Car 1008 (Tamper "Big Joe") - Official Work Thread
« Reply #11 on: April 19, 2009, 09:50:19 AM »
I believe that the tampers move in and out simultaneously. The shaft sticking out the front drives the two racks that you can see in the video, to slide the two sets of tampers towards or away from each other.
So, you set the tampers in close together, lower them, shake, lift them up, move them out a little, etc.

Can't wait until it all four tampers are going! It should give a new meaning to 'Whole lotta shakin' goin' on" !!

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Re: Work Car 1008 (Tamper "Big Joe") - Official Work Thread
« Reply #12 on: April 19, 2009, 11:12:14 AM »
Does this mean we tamping crew members are out of a job?   :'(
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Re: Work Car 1008 (Tamper "Big Joe") - Official Work Thread
« Reply #13 on: April 19, 2009, 07:07:09 PM »
John K, the basic concept behing the whole tamper is keep it as simple as possible. If it doesn't work out, we can always try again. You saw in the video the up and down motion of the machine. There will also be something to draw the heads together and squeeze them together if the trial runs work as planned. Eventually, we hope to make it self propelled, controlled by hydraulics, with the tampers on air of course. As for the jacking, the tamper will clear a short jack placed under the rail for leveling or lifting the joint. Could be a one or a two man operation versus the current four or so for a track crew.
   But never fear, we will still need brute strength to line the rails. Always something out of line there. Either us or someplace up the line.
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« Reply #14 on: April 20, 2009, 09:31:06 AM »
Does this mean we tamping crew members are out of a job?   :'(

I-I-I-I d-d-d-d-don't th-th-th-th-think w-w-w-we c-c-c-can ever b-b-b-b-be r-r-r-r-r-rep-p-p-p-placed, B-B-B-B-Bill...
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