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Eric Bolton

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« Reply #255 on: July 08, 2013, 05:51:21 PM »
Hey guys its been a while. I was wondering if anyone could share info on the number plate for #11. Where was it cast and what was the cost? Reason I ask is because I am currently looking into getting a plate made for a project in New Jersey I'm involved with.
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« Reply #256 on: July 08, 2013, 06:32:47 PM »
Eric,

I had the plate cast at the Zawol Foundry in Wilkes-Barre, Pa. for Steven Hussar.  I no longer have the patterns, nor do I know if Zawol is still in business.  That could have been over 6 years or more ago.  I don't remember the cost.

Check with Wayne James in the Gettysburg Pa. area.  He has all sorts of plate patterns almost ready to go.  He can cast them in aluminum in his own foundry in his shop or have a foundry cast them in brass or bronze.  His work is super and there are a lot of his plates out there.

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« Reply #257 on: July 08, 2013, 09:07:44 PM »
Thank for the reply. I sent you a PM Bernie.
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« Reply #258 on: July 08, 2013, 10:09:17 PM »
Eric,

Zawol Foundry is still in business.  44 Gilligan St.  Wilkes-Barre, PA  18702  (570) 823-7522  Only a very short distance from the old Vulcan Ironworks where our #10 originated.

They also have a Facebook page.

Would your NJ "project" happen to be for a 2-8-0 under restoration at Pine Creek?
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« Reply #259 on: July 08, 2013, 10:45:58 PM »
I doubt it is for a 2-8-0 at Allaire....the Quincy and Torch Lake engine went back to Michigan some time ago......
But then....you never know.

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« Reply #260 on: July 09, 2013, 01:21:43 AM »
Its a Porter 2-6-0 that ran in Panama. #46
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« Reply #261 on: July 09, 2013, 02:05:39 AM »
Eric,

I answered your PM.

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« Reply #262 on: July 29, 2013, 06:28:18 PM »
While I was up in Maine and Pennsylvania, I finally got the chance to sit down with Jason and Bernie. Between the two of them, I got a slew of pattern projects to chew on, and some great insights to improve my pattern making as things go forward. I had to take some time after I got back from Maine to work on a few personal projects, but I'm able to devote the bulk of my free time for the last month of my summer to pattern projects.

I spent half a day making a pair of sleds to cut the draft for my patterns by machine planer in minutes, instead of hours with hand planes as I did with my first round of patterns. This obviously sped things up quite a bit, so within the first week and a half of work, I've been able to complete the fabrication of the pilot truck oil cellar, get pretty far along with the lead truck frame, and prepare most of the parts for the driving box oil cellar.

The sled on the right gets used first, and cuts a 2 degree taper along the length of (formerly) square stock until the taper extends the full width of the board. If the pattern requires, I flip the piece and place it on the 4 degree sled to cut the draft on the opposing face. I know Bernie and I use different construction methodologies, but if anybody ever can find this useful now or in the future, I hope it can save you some time.





Here's the pilot oil cellar. I'll actually assemble it over the coming academic year, since I can do the smoothing/finishing in an apartment.




The lead truck frame arches don't sit flush with the plane of the casting. The big upright sections are frame arches, while the shallower and wider pieces are the core prints which will be used to create the air space in the casting underneath the arches. The piece in the background is the core box shaping up. I still need to make some small pieces to add to the sides of the arches for the swing link bosses, and attach everything together. But this pattern is *nearing* completion- at least fabrication wise. Thats a 24" rule on the side, and a 12" up front for reference.



For all my patterns following the lead truck frame, I've switched to a marine grade plywood hoping it would be a lot easier to work with hand tools for the finer work than the cabinet grade stuff I used first. It has turned out to be a lot more consistent, but it sure is ugly!

In addition to wrapping up fabrication on the lead truck frame, I'm hoping to start work on the pilot truck journal box proper, finish the driver oil cellar, and perhaps start on the drive box. It is unlikely at best that I will make it to the drive boxes in the next couple weeks, but it gives me a nice goal.
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« Reply #263 on: July 29, 2013, 07:48:25 PM »
Wow! Great work, Alan. We need more guys like you in the program!

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« Reply #264 on: July 29, 2013, 08:08:41 PM »
Wow, Alan, great work, and fast!  Thanks so much!

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« Reply #265 on: July 29, 2013, 09:33:35 PM »
Very impressive, Alan and thank you.

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« Reply #266 on: July 29, 2013, 11:05:40 PM »
Alan,

Your work is fantastic.  As you know, all the patterns have to do is make good castings, not look pretty.  The less time spent on them, the better.  My shop has few machine tools, so I do things by hand and they subsequently take longer.  At this point in my life, I will not get any more, so I believe that you will overtake me in production and that is a good thing.  Keep it up.

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« Reply #267 on: July 31, 2013, 04:03:37 PM »
Thanks guys! I'll try not to get too distraught over ugly plywood, and keep chugging away.

Once we start to have whole assemblies of patterns complete, it might be an interesting picture to see everything lined up and placed in a way that gives some skeleton to the locomotive. Sort of like how crash wreckage gets "re assembled", but in a much less morbid context.
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« Reply #268 on: September 05, 2013, 02:52:40 PM »
All, the latest from Bernie's shop. These are the patterns for No 11's Center Body Bolster & Core Box. Thanks, Bernie!!
















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« Reply #269 on: September 05, 2013, 03:11:36 PM »
Bernie, nice work - as always!  Does this set of patterns make two different parts? The body-mounted bolster as well as its mate on the truck?

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