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Matthew Gustafson

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Im Also A member of the Disney Railroads Disscusion Form and i Want to now that If you put Disneyland Railroad #3 2-4-4 the Fred Gurley Against SR&RL #4 0-4-4! Which one is bigger? 
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Re: Are The Maine 2 footers smaller then the 3 footers at Disneyland?
« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2008, 12:58:49 AM »
2 footers are one foot smaller than 3 footers   ;) ;) ;)

SR&RL #4 was/is pretty small.  I'm guessing Disneyland's #3 would be much bigger.

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Re: Are The Maine 2 footers smaller then the 3 footers at Disneyland?
« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2008, 01:31:06 AM »
Im Also A member of the Disney Railroads Disscusion Form and i Want to now that If you put Disneyland Railroad #3 2-4-4 the Fred Gurley Against SR&RL #4 0-4-4! Which one is bigger? 

Hi Matt,

The two locomotives are very equivalent in size regardless of the difference in track gauge.

Both are 18 tons in weight with 22,000lbs on the drivers
Date Built FG=08/1894; SR=10/1890
Boiler Pressure FG=165psi; SR=140psi
Wheel Arrangement FG=2-4-4RT; SR=0-4-4RT
Driver Diameter FG=30"; SR=33"
Cylinder Size FG=9X14; SR=10.5X14
Tractive Effort FG=5300lbs; SR=5363lbs

I hope this helps!

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Glenn

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Re: Are The Maine 2 footers smaller then the 3 footers at Disneyland?
« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2008, 06:10:26 AM »
Oh! No wonder Why they look like they can run At Disneyland?  :o :o :o :)
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Re: Are The Maine 2 footers smaller then the 3 footers at Disneyland?
« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2008, 03:24:22 AM »
What about #7 & #8 to Disneyland #3? :( ;D
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Re: Are The Maine 2 footers smaller then the 3 footers at Disneyland?
« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2008, 01:21:04 PM »
Interesting question. Besides the obvious difference in gauge, how about comparing Disneyland 3 (an 1894 Baldwin) to WW&F No 9 (or No 10 for that matter). Maybe Glenn has the stats?




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Re: Are The Maine 2 footers smaller then the 3 footers at Disneyland?
« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2008, 05:17:14 PM »
Awsome! And Thanks For the Pictures Of Disneyland #3! Thats my favorite engine they Have! I love Those 0-4-4's and 2-4-4's. ;D
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Re: Are The Maine 2 footers smaller then the 3 footers at Disneyland?
« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2008, 10:26:03 PM »
Yes, the 3 was another Louisiana plantation engine...like WW&F No 10. Hard to tell from these pictures what gauge she is, even though we know her as a 3-footer.



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Re: Are The Maine 2 footers smaller then the 3 footers at Disneyland?
« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2008, 10:31:06 PM »
Steve;
   Imagine No. 10 in the Disney color scheme!
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Re: Are The Maine 2 footers smaller then the 3 footers at Disneyland?
« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2008, 10:33:09 PM »
Dave, it's awful. That's just too much brass and bright red paint! 

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Re: Are The Maine 2 footers smaller then the 3 footers at Disneyland?
« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2008, 11:59:50 PM »
Don't let Jason hear you say that.

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Re: Are The Maine 2 footers smaller then the 3 footers at Disneyland?
« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2008, 12:00:37 AM »
The green on the boiler jacket is ok but the cab would have to be black. It does have some beautiful lines though.
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Re: Are The Maine 2 footers smaller then the 3 footers at Disneyland?
« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2008, 12:11:41 AM »
Don't let Jason hear you say that.
For any readers that might mistake to which quote Stewart is referring, he is referring to Dave's heretical concept of a Disney-fied #10.

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Re: Are The Maine 2 footers smaller then the 3 footers at Disneyland?
« Reply #13 on: November 07, 2008, 01:30:43 AM »
Interesting question. Besides the obvious difference in gauge, how about comparing Disneyland 3 (an 1894 Baldwin) to WW&F No 9 (or No 10 for that matter). Maybe Glenn has the stats?

Hi Steve,

Disneyland #3 and the Fred Gurley are the same locomotive (shown in your photos) and SR&RL#4 is very similar to WW&F #9 (SR&RL #6) so the stats posted should be good for both locos.

WW&F #10 is a good deal smaller than either loco - about 2/3rds the size.  Although a good deal more modern, #10's stats probably have more in common with the B&B locos than with either of the others.  If you guys are interested, I could probably post a bit more info this weekend.  Let me know.

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Re: Are The Maine 2 footers smaller then the 3 footers at Disneyland?
« Reply #14 on: November 07, 2008, 01:31:06 AM »
The green on the boiler jacket is ok
I guess I don't mind the jacket color either...is this color supposed to look like what is known as, "Russia iron?"
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