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The Original W&Q and WW&F: 1894-1933 / Re: FS&K Ry - A little teaser!
« on: March 12, 2017, 05:56:27 PM »

Part 1 of 2 for Kennebec County.

Let me know if you have problems viewing the map.

Some adjustments will need to be made on the west end of the map.

The Original W&Q and WW&F: 1894-1933 / Re: FS&K Ry - A little teaser!
« on: March 12, 2017, 03:05:54 PM »
Yup, it was.  There are no sidings drawn on the plan so it is just the preliminary survey.  I have to wonder if they would either have a freight interchange point where the FSK and MEC split just north of the station and passenger interchange would be handled by the streetcars, or if freight cars would be handled over the electric railway which was in the planning stages around the same time.

The path through Oakland is a little interesting too, which is forthcoming soon.  I am in NJ this week for work (I am located in central ME) so updates will be slow, and the plans I found are incomplete so I have to chase down a couple more leads to see if I can get the rest of them.  Also, I am inclined to believe that there is a rough sketch or description of the course from Western Ave in Waterville to the Kennebec River.  If you look at google earth the land west of Messalonskee Stream from at least Kennedy Memorial Drive (Routes 137/11) to the MEC / Messalonskee Stream crossing was mostly farm land and undeveloped until the 1930's-1950's.  The most significant buildings were probably located at the bridge over the stream on Western Avenue.

The Original W&Q and WW&F: 1894-1933 / Re: FS&K Ry - A little teaser!
« on: March 10, 2017, 08:44:50 PM »
Oakland and Waterville RY Crossing the FSK

IMG_4620 by Paul Levesque, on Flickr

The Original W&Q and WW&F: 1894-1933 / Re: FS&K Ry - A little teaser!
« on: March 10, 2017, 08:27:22 PM »
IMG_4678 by Paul Levesque, on Flickr

The Original W&Q and WW&F: 1894-1933 / Re: FS&K Ry - A little teaser!
« on: March 08, 2017, 11:23:07 PM »
I love these things!!

I am going to keep the sources close to my chest for now until I have more information and a better presentation to put out there.  It took some searching though!!

The Original W&Q and WW&F: 1894-1933 / FS&K Ry - A little teaser!
« on: March 08, 2017, 09:34:00 PM »
Looky what I uncovered!!!!!!!!!!!!

Two little comments,

I will post more later, but be patient please I have many irons in the fire.

The entirety will be put on google maps hopefully by the end of spring!!

General Discussion / Re: Moving Maine Central 470's Boiler
« on: August 10, 2016, 06:35:56 PM »
Three pictures from yesterday.  Impressive work.

Let me know if the link doesn't work.


Other Maine Narrow Gauge / Re: My new post card
« on: August 10, 2016, 06:27:14 PM »
Hey Ted,

Philip is right.  I worked in OOB for a few years and learned a bit about the town.

First, the last time I was there, about a year ago, you could still the the trestle piers crossing Goosefare Brook on the boundary between OOB and Saco in an area known as Ocean Park.  You can walk up to what is really the last trace of the ROW in OOB off the intersection of Porter and Seaside Ave.

Check out tax maps and in the area of Ocean Ave and West Grand Ave I believe the lot lines follow the former grade.

The line intersected the B&M just after crossing Union street and ran to the station (not where the current station) which was located on First Street between Staples Street and Old Orchard Street.

Seaside Ave was built on the ROW.  The line diverged from the ROW in the area of Oceana and Winona Ave and the sidewalk follows the approximate location.

Reportedly the Ocean Park Station survives as an antique store (again, last time I was there) at Colby and Seaside Ave.

About the 1920's the ROW was bought by a real estate company and developed.


So, there will be some revisions needed but, the W&Q yard has been added to the map based on the map from NGSV V1.


Thank you Ed.

Changes and updates.

Several points of interest and notes have been removed to make room for the additional layers added today.

The line should be complete:
Wiscasset to Albion
Weeks Mills to Winslow
Burnham Extension
Pittsfield Preliminary

While working on the Wiscasset to Weeks Mills segment I noticed that there were a couple of locations where the survey and the as-built was off more than it normally is, these deviations in the survey were added as a separate layer to the map to show how the original survey had the line laid out and how it was actually built.

1.)  Probably the best known was the route around the Head Tide Church.  This included a compound 5 to 3 degree curve south of the church.
2.)  The mud flats at Wiscasset.
3.)  North Whitefield.  The topography tells a different story than the simple tangent in the survey.

Does anyone have coordinates (approximate) of the TOM south switch and the theorized road crossing discussed in other areas of the forum?


1.)  The Winslow Branch has been added in its entirety.
- There may be some variances in this.  The tangents were found using 2ft contours, aerial images, and CIR (Color Infrared) which makes some of the differences in vegetation really stand out.  Curves were drawn to fit based on the 2ft contours and aerial images using standard curves from 1 through 16 degrees.

2.)  The spur to the American Woolen Company Mill.
-  Referencing the maps from V3 of Narrow Gauge in the Sheepscot Valley and the layout of buildings and 2ft contours the approximate location of the spur into the mill yard was drawn.

Where the ROW crosses the Getchell Corner Road (also shown as Bog Road and Pope Avenue) the WW&F crossed the tracks of the AWG (later LA&W) Street Railway. The electric railroad ran parallel to the road along the south side of the ROW into the main village.  The crossing with the electric railroad would have been directly across the street from the East Vassalboro station which is the silver metal roofed structure at about a 30degree cant to the main roadway.  I will correct the line in this are to more closely match existing property lines, but this is pretty close.



1.)  Segment from just south of China Village to Albion has been added.
2.)  Segment from just north of Coles Crossing to Weeks Mills has been added including the wye.
 - Any input on the location of the back leg of the wye please let me know, the contours are a little ambiguous in that area so I have added my best interpretation based on what was given on the ICC maps in Narrow Gauge in the Sheepscot Valley.
3.)  Notes on variations in the map as drawn and the aerial photography have been noted.
4.)  A detail of the Horseback Road overhead crossing showing the topography in 2' intervals.
5.)  The approximate location of the China-Palermo town line was added to show the relationship of the station location to the location of the Branch Mills Village and the Town of Palermo.

Again, input and notes are welcome.
NEXT- Portions of the Winslow Branch, The existing bridge abutments over the Maine Central in Winslow and the possible extension over the Kennebec.


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