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Work and Events / Track and Wheel Standards
« on: December 18, 2015, 09:40:42 AM »
Does the WW&F have a set of track and wheel standards that they follow?  I ask this because I am trying to devise standards for the two foot operation that I am building, and it seems that every piece of equipment that I find has different wheel profiles and of course track seems to be all over the map (no pun intended). Since the Maine two footers are some of the heaviest two foot operations, I would be well served to follow the standards that is used up there. 

The info. that I am mostly interested in is wheel profile, tread and flange widths, back to back distance of wheelsets, track gauge tolerance and distance from running rail to guard rails in switches.   Also curious to know what the coupler height is from the top of rail to c/l of coupler pockets.

HK Porter had two standard wheel profiles. The "light locomotive" profile is 5" wide and the "heavy locomotive" profile is 5 1/2" wide.  Our J&L 58 uses the 5 1/2" wide profile.  However, one of the Carpenter Steel cars that I bought recently has a very narrow wheel profile, which is a bit concerning since it will be operating over the same trackage as the wide wheeled 58.  I would like to standardize as much as possible.

Thanks for the help.

20151216_211539 by Rick Rowlands, on Flickr

Work and Events / Re: WW&F No. 11 - Official Work Thread
« on: December 12, 2015, 08:43:24 PM »
Building trucks might be a good way to "get our feet wet" so to speak over at WA Young.  Most of the machines haven't made chips in decades, so starting out with a simple project such as truck building may be the ideal project to work the bugs out of the machines and lineshafting.   Pressing wheelsets together on the 300 ton wheel press is going to be interesting to say the least.

Work and Events / Re: WW&F No. 11 - Official Work Thread
« on: November 29, 2015, 10:52:11 PM »
I was down at WA Young today.   While I was there I took a short video of the shop, basically showing the extent of the machine tools and other equipment that are there.  The radial drill has not drilled a hole in many years, but today we used it to drill a couple of 3/4" holes in two smokebox door dogs that I had to make for J&L 58. 

We were also looking at the coal fired crucible furnace that is in the floor.  We plan to test fire it sometime over the winter, and hope to have it ready to melt bronze in preparation to some casting work to do in the spring. 

The planer has a 32" x 10' bed, and the big lathe has a 40" swing with a maximum workpiece length of 16 feet.   There are various jib cranes located in the building to move heavy workpieces off and onto the machines. 

Anyways, here is the video:

US Two Footers / Re: Jones & Laughlin 58 Restoration
« on: November 25, 2015, 08:26:50 PM »
I filmed a short video today giving an update on the restoration of the 58.

Work and Events / Re: WW&F No. 11 - Official Work Thread
« on: November 19, 2015, 10:08:33 PM »
An organization that I am involved with, Rivers of Steel Heritage Corp., owns a 1900 era lineshaft driven machine shop located in a small town along the Monongahela River about 60 miles up the river from Pittsburgh, PA.  It is the WA Young Foundry & Machine Shop, and most of the machines inside are operational.   With the desire to build No. 11 using techniques that were available around the turn of the last century, we would be able to offer the use of WA Young for the production of some of the components needed for No. 11. 

The shop is equipped with a varied assortment of machine tools, including a lathe that can turn 30" (or maybe larger), a 30" x 6' planer, drills, milling machines, smaller lathes, and a 200 ton horizontal wheel press. All are flat belt driven and are original to the shop.   In the adjacent room is an iron foundry with a 22" cupola furnace and a coal fired crucible furnace for making brass castings.  I spoke with Jason today about WA Young and the possibility of doing some work here.    One of the goals of Rivers of Steel is to make WA Young useful again.  I have been doing some limited machine work down there and reactivating machine tools as I go. 

The Historic American Engineering Record documented the facility and this is their survey:

I also have an album of photos of Young here:

Work and Events / Re: WW&F No. 9 - Official Work Thread
« on: November 10, 2015, 08:09:41 PM »
Thanks!  We saved a 260 ton rolling mill steam engine from Youngstown Sheet & Tube and its the centerpiece of our collection.  YS&T made a lot of seamless tubing over the years, including boiler tubes.  Now we are getting into two foot gauge in a big way, and I'm loving every bit of it!

Museum Discussion / Re: Pledges Needed for #9 Lubricator
« on: November 09, 2015, 02:58:52 PM »
Oh darn!  I used to have one of those on a shaper, but it went with the shaper when I sold it. 

I do have a couple of extra mechanical lubricators of various styles and feeds, so if you ever need a mechanical I might be able to help with that.

Work and Events / Re: WW&F No. 9 - Official Work Thread
« on: November 08, 2015, 11:10:36 PM »
I am quite interested in the multi step painting of the locomotive.  This is the first time that I have heard of varnish being used on anything other than wood.  I would be interested in learning what type and brand of varnish is being used, as we may be interested in using these products on a project that we are working on down in Ohio. 

US Two Footers / Re: Jones & Laughlin 58 Restoration
« on: September 29, 2015, 06:55:56 AM »
We are making progress on the restoration of J&L 58.   Yesterday the boiler was removed from the frame, and later this week it will be going to the boiler shop for rebuild.  Scroll down the page for the pics.

Work and Events / Re: WW&F No. 11 - Official Work Thread
« on: September 25, 2015, 07:08:20 AM »
Bernie,  I've always enjoyed making the more complex castings, as it take a bit of patience and some out of the box thinking to get the cores to stay where they need to be and get the gating and risering right.  I can try anything, and if it doesn't come out just throw it back into the furnace and try again.   As long as the alloy is available in ingots we should be able to melt it in the crucible furnace.

Work and Events / Re: WW&F No. 11 - Official Work Thread
« on: September 24, 2015, 08:02:12 AM »
I have been in the foundry business off and on for many years, and now I am restoring a 23" gauge Porter 0-4-0T, Jones & Laughlin Steel No. 58.  Three weeks ago I brought both of those interests together when I cast a new set of grates for the locomotive at an iron pour that we held at the Carrie Furnaces National Historic Landmark in Rankin, PA, just outside of Pittsburgh.  We are ramping up a metal arts program at the site and over the winter will begin construction of a foundry building.  By next summer we will have the ability to cast grey iron and ductile iron up to about 7,000 lbs.  We will also be able to cast bronze.  Much of our work will be art pieces, but my interest is in creating a location where castings for historic restoration projects could also be made.  We will be producing all of the castings that we need for our railroad, including the wheels.

I am confident that we could produce all of the grey iron, ductile iron and bronze castings for the WW&F 11 project, do it at a cost substantially less than what a commercial foundry would charge and with the same quality.  I have worked at foundries producing iron castings from 100 tons down to a couple of pounds using both no bake and greensand.  I've also operated my own iron foundry business making reproduction parts for gas engine and tractor enthusiasts. 

Carrie Furnaces NHL is a former US Steel blast furnace plant, once the major iron producing facility for the now demolished Homestead Steel Works.  The furnaces could each produce over 1,000 tons of molten iron per day that was converted into steel and rolled into I beams, channels, plates and armor plate.  It is now a major tourist attraction in the Pittsburgh area.  We are restoring the J&L 58 in the blowing engine house and have intentions of constructing several hundred feet of track on which to operate the locomotive when it is finished.

Just something to think about as you plan your WW&F 11 build.  Click on the below link and advance through the photos of the making of the grates as well as builders plates.  I made one plate out of bronze and four more out of iron, working from an aluminum reproduction plate that I changed the construction number on.  The grate pattern is about 100 years old and part of the collection at the WA Young Foundry & Machine Shop, a complete turn of the century lineshaft driven machine shop that is also under our care.

Museum Discussion / Re: Prints & Erecting Cards (drawings)
« on: April 10, 2015, 11:54:32 PM »
Last year a few friends and I hatched a plan to build a small locomotive from scratch.  The impetus for the proposed project was the availability of a preserved 1900 era foundry and lineshaft driven machine shop to build it in and the owner's desire to put the place to some productive work.  So we thought that building a steam locomotive, small enough to be handled by the shop's machines would be ideal.  And since Porter was located in Pittsburgh and the shop is a National Historic Landmark and located up the Mon from Pittsburgh, we felt that some funding for this project might become available if we followed a Porter design.   That was the plan at least until I found the J&L 58, and then our efforts shifted to restoring that locomotive instead. 

However, we are still interested in pursuing the original plan after the 58 is finished.  So if any of you are serious about exploring the idea of someday building WW&F no. 4, perhaps we should get together and talk sometime. 

Work and Events / Re: WW&F No. 9 - Official Work Thread
« on: April 09, 2015, 09:20:08 PM »
The felt strips is a great idea.  I'll have to remember that.

Museum Discussion / Re: Prints & Erecting Cards (drawings)
« on: April 09, 2015, 09:17:42 PM »
Only an elevation drawing for C/N 2360.   It seems that the newer the locomotive, the more drawings that are available. 

Museum Discussion / Re: Prints & Erecting Cards (drawings)
« on: April 09, 2015, 07:54:55 PM »
All that I can find is an elevation drawing and a cab drawing for C/N 2497, but at least it is a start.

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