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Work and Events / Re: Trout Brook Bridge - Official Work Thread
« on: November 17, 2018, 02:47:29 AM »
The bridge had a middle pier in 1902?  Very interesting. Was this maybe an earlier version of the structure prior to the pony truss design in the Masons' wreck (1905)?

Original Railway / Re: Why Quebec?
« on: November 07, 2018, 10:59:34 PM »
Another pithy quote from Chase's book: "Of the histories of the coast towns which have aspired to greatness by reason of natural harbor facilities that of Wiscasset is perhaps the most disappointing." (p. 67)

Original Railway / Why Quebec?
« on: November 07, 2018, 10:54:07 PM »
I've been reading Edward E. Chase's book Maine Railroads: A History of the Development of the Maine Railroad System (1926), and he gives a lot of attention to what he calls "the Quebec railroad virus...that insidious and often fatal idea which has run through the record of Maine railroads from the the beginning".  :)

Chase gives the most succinct explanation I've seen in print of the reasoning behind this obsession. Yes, the idea was to link Maine's ice-free ports with Quebec, but what was the big deal about Quebec? In reality, it wasn't really about Quebec at all, but rather the Great Lakes and the Midwest:

"In 1845 the cheapest route from Ohio to England was by way of the St. Lawrence River. The only defect in this system was the impossibility of winter navigation. It was the plan of [John Alfred] Poor to tap this artery of commerce and to divert the flow of trade to the open winter harbors on the Maine coast." (p. 11)

(Remember that the original reason for what became the Boston & Albany RR was to connect Boston with the Erie Canal and divert some of its Midwest traffic away from the Hudson River and New York City, a pretty similar idea.)

Incidentally, Chase's book is an excellent read and deserves to be better known. With a 1926 publication date I think it should enter the public domain in 2021 (1926 + 95 years). It would be a worthwhile project to have it reprinted at that point.

Two Footers outside of the US / Re: Electric two footer
« on: November 07, 2018, 02:01:55 AM »
Deutsche Reichsbahn was the East German state railway.

Which is really confusing, because Deutsche Reichsbahn ("German Imperial Railway") was the name used prior to the end of WWII as well, so it has certain historical associations. Couldn't the East German/DDR government have used a different name? :)

Really neat video, by the way.

US Two Footers / Re: Henschel loco
« on: November 05, 2018, 12:05:17 AM »
is this the engine you mean, Wayne? It's reportedly owned by the estate of Charles Umbly in Kane, PA, and before that by George Spohrer:

I imagine that if there really were any ex-WW&F freight cars on the B&SR or Edaville (which I doubt), they could be identified by the design of the couplers, with the pin on the bottom rather than the top.,

Work and Events / Re: B&SR boxcar 56
« on: October 19, 2018, 06:46:40 PM »
Phillip, I think it is something like 34.

Thank you Mike.

Work and Events / Re: B&SR boxcar 56
« on: October 19, 2018, 02:25:57 PM »
I'm curious if we know the B&SR number of the flatcar.

This is all great news and I'm looking forward to seeing boxcar 56 the next time I'm at Sheepscot.

Museum Discussion / Re: Useful Stuff on eBay
« on: October 11, 2018, 04:35:53 PM »
Two color slides of North Whitefield from 1939:

Also, from the same seller, a B&W negative showing a novel view (taken from the roof of a boxcar?) of the Wiscasset upper yard in 1935:

Work and Events / Re: Fall Work Weekend 2018
« on: October 10, 2018, 05:05:06 AM »
Actually, heavier jointed rail is typically 39 feet long (to fit within a standard 40 foot gondola).  I'm going to make a wild guess that in the days when lighter rail was king, the standard gondola would be 30 feet so 28 foot rails would make sense.

Correct. According to John H. White's "The American Railroad Freight Car", the standard car length in the 1870s was 29 feet (for example, V&T flatcar No. 308, built by the Detroit Car Works in 1876 and now at the Nevada State RR Museum, measures 29 feet 8 inches), growing to 30 to 34 feet by the 1880s. I've seen mill dates of 1888 and 1889 on our rail from Wisconsin, so 28 feet would have been just right for that era.

Museum Discussion / Re: Roster of Surviving Maine 2' Locomotives
« on: September 28, 2018, 04:04:00 AM »
One small correction I would offer is that the SR&RL is located in Phillips, not Sanders. Yes, they refer to their terminus as "Sanders", but that's the just the building (the original SR&RL Sanders station), not the location. The actual Sanders is several miles farther up the line, between Reeds and Perham Junction on the P&R.

Gorgeous engine...and a most impressive wall alongside it as well!

Yes indeed, but dwarfed by Caernarfon Castle just out of view to the left!

Work and Events / Re: Trout Brook Bridge - Official Work Thread
« on: September 17, 2018, 04:05:16 AM »
That's a very good question, Bernie. I had wondered the same thing. My first thought was a beaver dam, but that seems unlikely because beavers were extinct/extirpated in most of the US in 1905 because of trapping. (I'm sure there may have been a few beavers left in more northerly parts of Maine then, but certainly not in Alna.)

Original Railway / Re: 1890 Besse Tannery built in Clinton
« on: September 17, 2018, 01:10:32 AM »
Is the author certain about the date? There was no narrow gauge in Albion until after 1894.

Work and Events / Re: Trout Brook Bridge - Official Work Thread
« on: September 13, 2018, 01:46:32 AM »
Get well soon, Wayne! You will be missed.

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