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US Two Footers / Re: J&L Narrow Gauge Railroad
« on: October 08, 2019, 04:35:45 AM »
Congratulations, Rick!

Bridgton & Saco River Railway / Re: Bridgton"s Third Coach at the WW&F?
« on: August 24, 2019, 03:47:39 AM »
Here is a picture borrowed from Facebook of SR&RL coach 18/6 on B&SR coach 17's trucks.

I believe boxcar 50 was traded to ML&M for flatcar 34. The exchange happened last year.

Bridgton & Saco River Railway / Re: Bridgton"s Third Coach at the WW&F?
« on: August 23, 2019, 05:09:48 PM »
The fire that destroyed B&SR coach 17 at Edaville in 1985 was arson, sadly.

The last I've heard, the trucks are still under SR&RL coach 18 (SRRR 6), not SR&RL 17 (SRRR 5), though maybe that's changed since 17/5 was restored.

SR&RL coaches 17 and 18 were never at Edaville, and I don't think they've ever even left Franklin County since they were built, which is remarkable.

Work and Events / Re: B&SR tank car rebuild
« on: August 21, 2019, 04:53:56 AM »
Although, the cars themselves may have been assembled in the early 1900s, I believe Phillip Marshall suggested that the tanks themselves may have actually belonged to earlier, standard gauge tank cars.

Yes, thank you Steve. 

The casting on the top of the dome of the larger tank (I don't know about the smaller one) is marked "Harrisburg Foundry & Machine Co. Makers Harrisburg Pa 1878". Also known as the  Harrisburg Car Works, this company was the first major builder of railroad tank cars during the Pennsylvania petroleum boom of the 1860s-1870s. They went out of business around 1893.

The larger tank bears a striking resemblance to an 1875 Harrisburg tank car design for the PRR illustrated at the link above.

I'm quite certain the larger tank is an 1870s standard gauge tank car that was acquired second-hand by Standard Oil and the B&SR and converted to narrow gauge.

A discussion of Harrisburg tank cars (including ours) on RYPN several years ago found at least four still in existence, of which ours is apparently the oldest based on the dome casting date:

There are very few Harrisburg tank cars left, and very few freight cars from the 1870s left in general, so it's a significant artifact even without the narrow gauge part of its history.

Work and Events / Re: B&SR tank car rebuild
« on: August 16, 2019, 03:57:12 AM »
A detail Brendan pointed out to me on Sunday are the bolt holes showing where the stake pockets on the ends of each side of the car were located before they were moved over to make room for the stirrup steps. This means the side sills are original B&SR wood, which is amazing.
(Flatcar 14 as built by Portland Co. had no steps, just like our flatcar 118. The steps were added later when the B&SR was under MEC ownership.)

The trucks are mismatched, but one of them has Griffin wheelsets with SR&RL markings.

Museum Discussion / Re: Reflections on 30 Years of the WW&F
« on: August 15, 2019, 09:22:22 PM »
Wow Philip!
I never knew you went back that far with the WW&F.

The photos of your late brother remind me of another important piece of what we share - that is the ability to spend time with loved ones while volunteering here. Some of my best father-daughter times were at the railroad. Now my daughter is all grown up, living in China (the country not the town in Maine), and I have those memories to cherish. I think of her every time we pass along Albee's field - where the second photo was taken during the Spring Work Weekend in 2008; the first photo is from 2003, looks like we're on the ladder.

Thanks, Ed. I like to think of the things we build in this world (like the railroad) as a way of preserving the memories of people who were with us then but who are now gone, and as a way for others in turn to remember us.

Yes, I joined in the first year as annual member #40 (I had to dig out my old membership card to confirm that), but then allowed my membership to lapse a few years later when I was in college and the complexities of adult life became too distracting. Then I rejoined five years ago after a gap of almost 20 years with a much higher member #, which means I missed out on a lot. :)

Museum Discussion / Re: Reflections on 30 Years of the WW&F
« on: August 15, 2019, 07:12:47 PM »
(Anyone got more "old days" photos they want to share?)

I believe I've posted these on the forum before, but here are two pictures from July of 1990. That's 15-year old me in the blue shirt with my late brother Steve and, of course, Harry Percival (second picture, far right).

Whimsical Weirdness and Foolery / Re: WW&F Visits....
« on: August 03, 2019, 10:48:10 PM »
I was in Tucson, AZ for a conference last week, and when I had a free day on Thursday I took a 350-mile side trip to Clifton, AZ to see some of the remains the Coronado RR. This little 20-inch gauge copper-mining line was one of the earliest railroads in that state, dating to 1879.

Here I am with Coronado RR No. 8, a Porter 0-4-4T built in 1897 (C/N 1735), on display near the former Arizona & New Mexico Ry/El Paso & Southwestern RR/Southern Pacific depot on AZ Highway 191 in Clifton.  (The AZ & NM was originally narrow gauge as well, but 3' gauge rather than 20".)

Museum Discussion / Re: wheel chair accessibility
« on: July 31, 2019, 05:40:57 PM »
My wife Kara has also suggested we have additional benches or other seating, both along the walkway and scattered around the campus, so visitors have convenient and obvious places to sit down. This is especially important for people with mobility issues (not all of whom are in  wheel  chairs), but would enhance the visitor experience generally.

I'm planning to be there for at least part of the weekend (which days I'm not sure yet) and look forward to spiking.

Work and Events / Re: Moving passenger cars from MNGRR to WWFRY
« on: July 26, 2019, 06:05:27 PM »
You're right Dana, which I guess means the caboose can really only be numbered 32 if it has the cupola and not 101, just as combine 14 can really only be 14 with the "flat" roof and not F&M 3.

Work and Events / Re: Moving passenger cars from MNGRR to WWFRY
« on: July 25, 2019, 01:04:42 AM »
The caboose could be B&SR 32 on one side and 101 on the other.

Likewise, SR&RL combine 14 could be lettered on the other side as F&M 3 (even though it never ran under that number without its original clerestory roof).

Work and Events / Re: TCDA No. 65 (Reefer) - Official Work Thread
« on: June 27, 2019, 02:06:18 AM »
Indeed, good catch.

Maybe also a brake wheel and cut levers on the couplers?

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