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Massachusetts' Two Footers / Re: Cranberry Junction depot
« on: January 01, 2016, 08:23:51 AM »
IIRC, the Depot buildiing was cut in half, and moved in (2) pieces.

Museum Discussion / Re: Locomotive 9 Return to Service
« on: December 13, 2015, 11:23:06 PM »
Congratulations on bringing #9 back to life!
It GREAT to see #9 back in steam.
It's a wonderful Christmas present to all of us Maine 2-Foot Fans.
I just wish I could've been there to see it . . .

Museum Discussion / Re: WW&F #9 in steam
« on: December 13, 2015, 11:07:50 PM »
Congratulations to the Management and Mechanical Staff at the WW&F Ry Museum for bringing #9 back to life!!
You have an historical treasure that will give many years to enjoyment to 2-foot Fans everywhere!

Work and Events / Re: Eames Train Brakes - Official Work Thread
« on: August 06, 2015, 08:33:06 AM »
Yes, that is the European Automatic-Vacuum System.
I'm searching for a diagram and/or description of the US 1880s Straight Vacuum System.

As I understand it . .

Each Car and the Locomotive had a Vacuum Brake Diaphragm or Cylinder.
They were all connected to a Vacuum Line that ran the length of the train.
The Loco had an Eductor (like a Venturi) to generate the Vacuum.
Blowing steam from the Boiler thru the Eductor created a Vacuum in the Train Vacuum Line and applied the Brakes.
Releasing the Vacuum, bu admitting air into the Vacuum Line, released the Brakes.

What I don't know is whether there was a Check Valve in the Vacuum Line after the Eductor?
If the engineer applied vacuum to the Train Line via the Eductor, was it "locked-in" by a Check Valve?
Or did the Train Line Vacuum go back to ZERO when the steam flow thru the Eductor was stopped?

We DO know that the exhaust steam from the Eductor was released to the atmosphere by one of three methods:
#1  It was dumped to atmosphere via an open-ended pipe; this was VERY NOISY when the brakes were applied.
#2  It was dumped to the Smokebox and up the Stack; this quieted the released steam.
#3  It was dumped via a Muffler; this typically protruded above the Cab Roof.

So, I think we really need TWO Brake Valves:
(1)  One to admit steam to the Eductor, generate the Vacuum in the Train Brake Pipe, and apply the Brakes,
and, assuming there is a Check Valve to "lock-in" the Train Line Vacuum,
(2)  One to admit Air into the Train Line to relieve the Vacuum and release the Brakes.

Were any parts of the Vacuum Brake system on #9 when she arrived from CT???

Work and Events / Eames Train Brakes - Official Work Thread
« on: July 31, 2015, 07:43:00 PM »
I'm looking forward to #9's return to steam; hope to get up to Alna to see it.

Question:  Will #9 have working Vacuum Brakes??

If so, #9 may be the ONLY operational U.S. steam loco with working 19th-century Vacuum Brakes.

IIRC, only the SR&RL made a complete conversion to Automatic Air Brakes, but #6 did not
get the Air Brakes before going to the K.C. & W.W. & F.

Tom Werb
Preston, CT.

The last time I was there (1986?), it was still the "Classic" Edaville.
Thankfully, I did NOT see the declining years and decide to NEVER go back.

A smart man once told me that Railroad "attractions" like Edaville
must decide WHAT they are going to be.
Will they be:
1.  A Railroad historical preservation/restoration museum
2.  A Theme Part with a Train Ride.

Happily, operations like the C&TS and WW&F have chosen #1.
Edaville however, has chosen #2.

Ellis Atwood must be "spinning in his grave"!

Sandy River & Rangeley Lakes Railroad / Re: SR&RL #16 - Odd Tender Truck
« on: September 05, 2014, 09:20:22 PM »
A few more pieces to add to the puzzle!

John:  I found your reference in the Cornwall/Farrell book - thanx.

I think a photo survey may help here.

Some photo-spotting facts:
1.  The original Tenders for the 2-6-0s (SR 2nd #2, SR 2nd #3, P&R #2) had
a large front deck, because, as 2-6-0s, the locos had a "deck-less" cab.
The boiler/firebox extended almost back to the Cab rear wall.
2.  The "later" Tenders had a much smaller front deck, and the waterlegs
extended almost to the front of the frame.  The addition of the Trailing Truck
permitted an open-deck cab.
3.  The Baldwin Builders Plate doesn't always show-up in the photos.  It is
most often visible in photos of #18.  So far, I've found only ONE photo of #16
where the Builders Plate is visible.

Does anyone have an e-mail address for Peter Barney?
I lost contact with him after the Narrow-Gauge Convention in 2002.

Tom Werb

Sandy River & Rangeley Lakes Railroad / Re: SR&RL #16 - Odd Tender Truck
« on: September 04, 2014, 09:50:03 PM »
Hello John!
Interesting thought that the odd Tender Truck may have come from #18.
I don't remember reading that the SR&RL bought a new Tender for #18.
What was your source of this information????
Thanx for the input!
Tom Werb
2-Foot 4Ever

Sandy River & Rangeley Lakes Railroad / Re: SR&RL #16 - Odd Tender Truck
« on: September 02, 2014, 08:57:09 PM »
Hi Phillip:
Yes, I saw a photo of #16 with matching tender trucks captioned as 1928 in Jones, 2FBTR, Volume 2.  However, I don't always trust Mr. Jones'
captions since errors have been noted; a notable one was a photo at Kingfield dated as 1924 where #16 is as 2-6-0.

I assumed the source of the odd tender truck had to be one of the other (3) Prairie conversions.
IIRC, #15 was stored unserviceable in September 1923, right after the Phillips enginehouse fire.
#18 was in service right to the end of the SR&RL.
#19 was burning in the Phillips enginehouse fire, but was put back in service in 1924.

Now, if #16 Tender Truck wasn't replaced under post-1928, maybe #19 could've been the source?


Sandy River & Rangeley Lakes Railroad / SR&RL #16 - Odd Tender Truck
« on: September 01, 2014, 08:33:39 PM »
Photographs of SR&RL #16 in 1932 (and later) show the Front and Rear Tender Trucks are different.
Photographs of #16 in 1924 and before show that she had the original Tender Trucks that she had as a 2-6-0.

Questions are:
#1  When was the front Tender Truck changed?   Maybe after the 1924 wreck at Phillips?
#2  Where did the odd Tender Truck come from?  My guess is #15, that was retired in 1923,

Anyone have more conclusive data or information?????

Museum Discussion / B&SR Tank
« on: December 08, 2012, 04:04:16 PM »
Saw the photo of the tank from B&SR 14/21 in the newsletter.
I assume it came from MNG; what's the plans for it?

Bridgton & Saco River Railway / B&SR Coaches #15 & #16
« on: October 26, 2012, 10:25:33 PM »
I'm build models of the B&SR Laconia Coaches #15 and #16, and
need some information of their color scheme for the 1920-25 time period.
All that I've read so far indicated "Dark Green" when new, and
"Coach Green" later in their life.  Is there any record of what would
be correct for 1920-25???

General Discussion / N.E. 2-Foot Show??
« on: November 07, 2010, 08:20:02 PM »
Is there any info on the N.E. 2-Foot Show that was held in Whitman, MA, on the weekend before Thanksgiving?
I went to that show for years, but missed last year as the Mrs. was hospitalized w/ pneumonia.
I'd usually get an announcement in the mail . . .  ???

General Discussion / Re: Who Am I? or, Let's Introduce Ourselves
« on: November 07, 2010, 08:15:31 PM »
Hello All:
Tom Werb from Preston, Connecticut, and WW&F member #452.
I got "hooked" on 2-Foot-Gauge after reading an 18-page article on the SR&RL in 'Trains' magazne in 1965.
Lin Moody's book and the others that followed fueled the fire.
I started building On2 in the late 1970s when I discovered Bob Werner's "Portland Products" and Peter Barney's
"Sandy River Car Shop" kits.  My On2 Kingfield module has all handlaid track, covered station, enginehouse, car
shop, and general store.  Freight cars are SRCS kits or scratchbuilt; locos are from Custom Brarss & Car Shop.
I have not built much in the last 6 - 8 years, as the wife's health problems keep me busy every day.
However, I did discover Microsoft "Train Simulator" and have been building 'computer-models' of narrow-gauge
locos and cars for 4 - 5 years.  It keeps my interest in model-building going and it's easy to stop at any time
and pick up the project later.
Recently, an MSTS modeler from Munich, Chrisitan Schroder, built the complete Monson RR for MSTS and I
contributed ALL the rolling stock: (8) boxcars, (13) flatcars, Plow, SnowSpreader, and Combine. 
Then, Christian laid ALL the trackage for the SR&RL (ca 1920) from Farmington, to Rangeley and Bigelow!
I sent him some vintage USGS maps from the 1930s that showed the old trackage.   I now have a list of
MSTS modelling projects for years to come.
I've been following the rebuilding/restoration of #9 and hope to make a trip up to Alna to see her in steam.
Tom Werb

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