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WW&F Railway Museum Discussion => Work and Events => Topic started by: Brendan Barry on July 11, 2019, 04:48:24 PM

Title: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Brendan Barry on July 11, 2019, 04:48:24 PM
Car barn extension progress. All the excavation for the new drainage and the building pad is done. The back wall is removed from the building and track panels for the extension were built this week. The next step is setting the track panels in place and finishing up the gravel pad.

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Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Bob Holmes on July 11, 2019, 07:24:38 PM
Brendan, a really good start to a much needed new thread.  This project is "huge" in terms of the MNG collaboration and the future of both museums.  I'm sure everyone on the Forum will want to have regular updates -- and the photographic record is equally important.

Many thanks for kicking this off, and keep us all updated with new photos.

Bob
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Paul Crabb on July 12, 2019, 01:46:35 PM
Brendan; I'll echo Bob's comment thanking you for starting this thread. I'm also sure this will be a popular thread on the Forum given the significance of having the MNG collection at Alna. Look forward to future updates.
Paul C.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Stephen Hussar on July 12, 2019, 06:20:22 PM
THANK YOU, Brendan!!
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Jeff Schumaker on July 14, 2019, 04:14:58 PM
Any idea when the concrete floor will be poured for the extension?

Jeff S.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: John Kokas on July 24, 2019, 02:24:08 PM
Do we have all the design documents & permits needed to proceed with the extension?  Is going to become a major project for the FWW crews?
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Mike Fox on July 24, 2019, 03:10:21 PM
Sorry Jeff, I am not sure why no one has answered you.

The rails need to be completed first. They have been made, and last time I was there one was sitting near where it should go. Once the rails are in, the concrete contractor will be contacted, and we will be put on his schedule.

As for FWW, I think the building should be mostly complete. The mud this spring got them behind a little, and now the moving of the MNG cars has slowed forward progress, or at least none has been reported.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Fred Morse on July 24, 2019, 03:32:34 PM
Been busy hauling things from Portland, From 8AM to 1030PM at night. Got to be able to think when doing the car barn. I'm sure we will get to it soon. As my grammy used to say, there's only so many hours in a day.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Mike Fox on July 27, 2019, 09:32:37 PM
Snapped a shot of Brendans progress so far. Almost ready for concrete..

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Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Bill Reidy on July 28, 2019, 09:21:40 AM
A couple of photos from yesterday.

Brendan was busy compacting the base for the car barn extension as Dean Copeland brings over more gravel in his mini excavator.
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A sign for the public explaining all the work on the car barn.
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Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Paul Uhland on July 29, 2019, 05:10:04 PM
Classy sign.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Paul Uhland on July 29, 2019, 05:13:12 PM
Small excavators/ powered equipment are SO handy.
On a big Abq main sewer job years ago, we used those push compactors, called them "turtles".

 BTW, what is that machine in the car barn with the big red flywheels?
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: James Patten on July 29, 2019, 05:53:01 PM
It's a steam engine that arrived on site quite a number of years ago, potentially to be used on the saw mill.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Paul Crabb on July 29, 2019, 09:22:21 PM
Will the concrete floor be done in two pours? One for the South extension and the second for the East side. Also any estimate as to when the floor in the existing car barn will be done?
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Paul Uhland on July 29, 2019, 11:55:22 PM
I would think the separate floors will be done as two projects?
And the existing inerior floor will be covered with crushed/rolled asphalt?
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Richard Johnson on August 19, 2019, 09:31:47 AM
Any new updates on car barn extension?
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Mike Fox on August 19, 2019, 12:00:54 PM
Last weekend Brendan said at the board meeting he needed help for 1 day to get the rails all in place and ready , then he was going to call the cement contractor.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Brendan Barry on September 27, 2019, 06:06:57 PM
The concrete is finally poured.

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Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Ed Lecuyer on September 27, 2019, 06:50:03 PM
Hallelujah!
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Gary Kraske on September 27, 2019, 07:25:44 PM
Beautiful Maine work on a beautiful Maine day!  Congrats.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Paul Uhland on September 27, 2019, 07:29:16 PM
Fantabulous!! Great work, fellers. Sure looked bizzy.
Now, AFAIK... the concrete curing rules...3 days for 50% strength, 7 days 70%, 28 days 90%+.
I can almost hear the hammers and saws ripping into the coming wall and truss  roof work!

Don't forget to chase the graffiti kids and neighborhood doggies away.  ;D
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Bill Reidy on September 27, 2019, 07:36:39 PM
That's great news, Brendan.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Joseph Lupinski on September 27, 2019, 08:00:33 PM
So at a future date will you pour a concrete floor for the rest of the car barn?
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: James Patten on September 27, 2019, 08:33:01 PM
The current plan is at some point the eastern bulge to the barn structure will extend further north, but that's Phase II.  Although it wouldn't surprise me to see the rest of the barn get concrete someday, the current plan is to put in reclaim for a floor surface.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Bill Baskerville on September 27, 2019, 09:36:06 PM
Brandon and gang,

Great job.  And just in time for the FWW so the rest of us can "hoooo and ahhhhhh" over it.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Steve Smith on September 28, 2019, 12:42:27 AM
Congratulations to all involved with the project! That concrete transporting/pouring rig is a fascinating apparatus...almost seeming to defy the laws of physics that it can reach out so far without the whole works tipping over.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Paul Uhland on September 28, 2019, 01:22:46 AM
That concrete pumper/spreader saves loads of time, trouble and work, quickly getting that heavy, sloppy "mud" placed.
The guy who invented it must be mega-rich.  ;)
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Paul Uhland on September 28, 2019, 01:27:56 AM
James...will the reclaim be crushed, used, compacted asphalt paving?
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: John Kokas on September 28, 2019, 08:38:50 AM
Now the big question is:  Who's going to admit scratching their initials into the new concrete?   ???
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: James Patten on September 28, 2019, 06:08:56 PM
James...will the reclaim be crushed, used, compacted asphalt paving?
Correct
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Jeff Schumaker on September 28, 2019, 07:09:34 PM
Great photos. Looking forward to seeing the pad up close at FWW.

Jeff S.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Mike Fox on September 28, 2019, 09:09:04 PM
Spinney removed the forms today

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Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Paul Crabb on September 28, 2019, 09:14:18 PM
How soon can "construction" begin? Will it be on the FWW project list?
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Al Michelis on September 29, 2019, 08:34:49 AM
Now the big question is:  Who's going to admit scratching their initials into the new concrete?   ???

Fred and I sealed the concrete on Saturday.  There were no scratches, dents nor animal prints (including human). :)
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: ALAIN DELASSUS on September 30, 2019, 01:16:46 PM
Thank you Bredan for the coverage. That museum that is going to host the amazing MNG collection will be surely a plus for the WW&F turnout  as soon as it's open,which wont take long given the pace works are coming along.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: John Kokas on September 30, 2019, 03:49:44 PM
Sooo, when can we get the narrow gauge convention back in Maine?  With all this additional work completed, people will be hopping to see what we have done.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Mike the Choochoo Nix on September 30, 2019, 05:11:54 PM
The narrow gauge convention is planned several years ahead so I would think the next open year is at least five years from now so 2024 or 2025
Mike Nix
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Bill Reidy on October 26, 2019, 09:12:39 PM
Brendan Barry and assistants have been busy on the car barn extension.  Leading up to today (Saturday, October 26th), the sills had been installed.  Today, some of the vertical posts were installed.

First thing this morning at 8.41 a.m.  It had rained overnight.
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The view at lunchtime.
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The view at the end of the day.
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Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Brendan Barry on October 31, 2019, 11:27:32 AM
Car barn constuction pictures over the last week.

Removing the trim from the car barn.

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Timber delivery.

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Putting up the frame.

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Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Jeff Schumaker on October 31, 2019, 02:18:19 PM
Thanks for the photos, Brendan. Things are starting to take shape.

Jeff S.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Bob Holmes on October 31, 2019, 07:52:58 PM
It's amazing what the weekday crew can accomplish in a short period of time.  Congratulations.  (Sorry I could not join you this week...)
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Mike Fox on November 09, 2019, 11:06:44 PM
Photogenic status as of today, 11/9/19

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Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Jeff Schumaker on November 10, 2019, 09:57:17 AM
Will the rafters bet set next?

Jeff S.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Fred Morse on November 10, 2019, 10:01:33 AM
Hope we can put trusses up this coming week. A lot will depend on the weather and wind.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Bill Baskerville on November 10, 2019, 10:49:50 AM
The campus will look a lot different this spring, with the display track by the garage, the third turntable lead with a locomotive on it, the expanded car barn. 

I am sure it is in the plan, but might I suggest a gravel path from the parking lot to the car barn to encourage visitors to see what is there?  Perhaps a large sign directing folks to the static display.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Jeff Schumaker on November 10, 2019, 06:27:48 PM
Hope we can put trusses up this coming week. A lot will depend on the weather and wind.

Wind and trusses don't mix.

Jeff S.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Mike Fox on November 10, 2019, 08:57:51 PM

I am sure it is in the plan, but might I suggest a gravel path from the parking lot to the car barn to encourage visitors to see what is there?  Perhaps a large sign directing folks to the static display.

There is the gravel entrance that goes between the car barn and coal pile. This has been solid for a few years, and works well as a walkway. Nice and wide.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Bill Baskerville on November 10, 2019, 09:51:46 PM

I am sure it is in the plan, but might I suggest a gravel path from the parking lot to the car barn to encourage visitors to see what is there?  Perhaps a large sign directing folks to the static display.

There is the gravel entrance that goes between the car barn and coal pile. This has been solid for a few years, and works well as a walkway. Nice and wide.
  Thanks Mike, Perhaps we might extend it clearly to the driveway between the restrooms and the Percival house so it looks inviting.  A good sign that welcomes our visitors to tour the preserved rolling stock and, when the extensions are completed, exhibits would be helpful.

Apologies to the team members who are already planning for this when the car barn extension and the exhibit space are completed.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Mike Fox on November 11, 2019, 08:19:41 AM
Even with a path, unless we tell the public to check the Car Barn, they usually don't. One of the "to-do" items is to improve drainage in the car barn. Jason presented me with an idea, I thought of an easier way (somewhat) and we should get it done soon.

We have a walkway plan, including board walks in places, for around the Sheepscot campus. Maybe when we get done building buildings, we can start on that plan.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Mike the Choochoo Nix on November 11, 2019, 11:51:04 AM
Maybe the car barn should be renamed "museum building" with a sign on it. While built as a car barn it is changing into to a museum + car storage. Also numerous  no smoking signs would be a good idea. I'm thinking at all entrances, and every 15 feet on each wall and maybe on stands between the cars.
Mike N.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Ed Lecuyer on November 11, 2019, 11:56:22 AM
The exhibit space will have a large, welcoming barn-style door. Paths (and maybe a small garden) are planned to make the entrance obvious and inviting.

As Mike (Fox) said, we have lots of plans to improve the paths and signage around the campus. We just need to get past the "active construction" phase first.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Bill Baskerville on November 11, 2019, 02:04:35 PM
I knew you guys (that's northern for y'all) would have it under control with a great plan.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Bob Holmes on November 11, 2019, 08:54:53 PM
Just weighing in on pathways at Sheepscot.

I think they should be a MUCH higher priority than we're talking about here.  Think about visitors with lessened mobility, families with kids, obvious ways to get from here (mostly the parking lot) to there.

Right now, we direct them from parking to around the back side of the turntable to the ticket office.  None of that ground is level, and varies from grassy to muddy to wet.

I respectfully disagree with Mike that the ground to the car barn is solid and level and inviting.  It's only OK if we want to improve the visitor experience.

Making these good walkways would be such an easy project compared to the Bridge, the Mountain Extension, etc., etc.  I can't see that they are that hard to do.

Bob
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Mike Fox on November 11, 2019, 09:47:35 PM
Bob,
We would be essentially throwing money away to improve an area before we are done working on it. We have graveled the road to the car barn, eliminating the mud that was there. Room for even more improvement? Yes. But, we are building the extension to the car barn, and I think the planned main entrance will be in the front, with an improved walk way and an easy walking surface. That would be the ideal spot to start, because we will be done work in that area.

I had planned to improve the walkway on the southside of the turn table this year after the electrical building was finished, but neither happened.

We are also planning a board walk across the front of the roundhouse that will lead you to the north side of the shop. That will be a huge improvement. This board walk will have to be rugged, because we all know someone will drive the tractor on it to get to the shop.. This is one that could be started, but can't be done until the roundhouse is..
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Stephen Greif on November 11, 2019, 09:55:26 PM
Have to agree with mike, side walks, paving stones and wooden walkways should only ever be installed after all heavy construction work is completed on a project/area for the foreseeable future. Motor vehicles can do alot of damage to concrete sidewalks if they are not designed for vehicle traffic which increases cost.

Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Mike the Choochoo Nix on November 11, 2019, 11:45:15 PM
It sound like the project is in good hands and everything has been thought out.
Mike N.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Paul Uhland on November 12, 2019, 01:39:54 PM
Looks like we'll all have to wait for car barn extension work to finish, along with parking lots cleanup, roundhose erection,  before finish sitework can be put in as a single project.
Logical, economical steps at  construction work dictate this way of doing the job.
I think the Sheepscot campus will look much better, soon.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Fred Morse on November 12, 2019, 02:27:07 PM
Right now its covered with ice! Winter is a little early this year. Lets hope it will melt someday.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Bob Holmes on November 12, 2019, 08:29:02 PM
Mike, you make compelling points that I agree with.  Still, the sooner the better for better walkway navigation around Sheepscot.  Keep in mind ease of walking for visitors traveling from/to both the parking lot and the restrooms.  Not prototypical but essential as we grow as both the museum and the display of the Narrow Gauge Collection.

Bob
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Mike Fox on November 12, 2019, 08:50:03 PM
Agreed Bob. We definately have room for improvements.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Mike Fox on November 16, 2019, 08:06:00 PM
Brendan drilling holes for bolts.

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Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Paul Uhland on November 18, 2019, 01:40:29 PM
Great progress!
Will the old, partially gone upper gable sheathing be totally removed?
Looks sleazy, even if coming roof trusses, deck, hide it.
Will east, Phase II slab be started before Phase I work is completed?

Be kind, Mr. Weather Man.


Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Ed Lecuyer on November 18, 2019, 01:51:38 PM
Trusses are scheduled to go up on Wed., 11/20/2019. Anyone in the area who is available to help is welcome to pitch in.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Paul Uhland on November 18, 2019, 02:00:40 PM
If  my sciatica wasn't bugging me so much, I'd be on the next Jet Blue, Boston? nonstop '' redeye'' out of Abq, could also visit cuz in Rockport.
Good luck.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Brendan Barry on November 19, 2019, 06:13:01 PM
The rain stopped this morning for a couple of hours so we got a head start on installing the trusses. A third of the building was done by lunch time before the rain started back up.

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Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Carl G. Soderstrom on November 20, 2019, 01:50:26 AM
Are the spacers/stableizers something you made or are they commercial in your area?
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Paul Uhland on November 20, 2019, 02:58:03 AM
Youz guys are animals!  ;D

Great work.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Jeff Schumaker on November 20, 2019, 09:42:44 AM
I hope the rain holds off today.

Jeff S.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Graham Buxton on November 20, 2019, 09:49:50 AM
Are the spacers/stableizers something you made or are they commercial in your area?
I don't know the specific product used in the car barn expansion, but similar 16" and 24" Simpson Strong-Tie TSBR truss spacer-restraints are a standard item and should be available from (or can be "ordered from") Strong-Tie dealers:
https://www.strongtie.com/spacingrestraintandbracingproducts_platedtrussconnectors/tsbr_restraint/p/tsbr#ProductDetails (https://www.strongtie.com/spacingrestraintandbracingproducts_platedtrussconnectors/tsbr_restraint/p/tsbr#ProductDetails)

Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: ALAIN DELASSUS on November 20, 2019, 12:06:32 PM
Talk about some dank weather there!   No snow in sight according to the weather forecast, although I do know you're able to keep on working rain or shine   I 'll  pray to God so he holds the snow back until the roof is laid and the walls up yet.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Paul Uhland on November 20, 2019, 12:46:19 PM
Looks like metal Strong Tie spacers are being used, have to be the best "bridging" available.
Is further work possible today (Wednesday)?
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Ed Lecuyer on November 20, 2019, 12:48:01 PM
Work is ongoing today (Wed, 11/20/2019.)
I hope we see some progress photos tonight!
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Brendan Barry on November 20, 2019, 05:24:08 PM
All the trusses are up and a start was made on the roof purlins on the west side of the building.

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Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Bill Reidy on November 20, 2019, 06:53:58 PM
Great progress and photos!  Thanks Brendan.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Bob Holmes on November 20, 2019, 08:43:32 PM
Weekday crew:  love you guys!
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Carl G. Soderstrom on November 20, 2019, 11:55:28 PM
Thanks Graham for the info.

Don't see them around here but maybe closer to the Twin Cities.
Could see where they would be handy for a small crew.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: ALAIN DELASSUS on November 21, 2019, 05:25:33 AM
Thanks Brendan for keeping us posting on a day to day basis . At this rate I'm sure the car barn extension will be roofed within the weekend. Great job !
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Jeff Schumaker on November 21, 2019, 09:49:54 AM
Yes, great job, in spite of the not so great weather.

Jeff S.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Brendan Barry on December 28, 2019, 12:24:23 PM
Progress over the last couple of weeks.

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Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Graham Buxton on December 28, 2019, 01:54:25 PM
I see that the angled braces between the main posts and the lateral beams on the middle panel of the main structure (aligned with the 2nd of the 3 tracks) are further apart than the angled braces on the panels on either side.   That sort of suggests that there might be plans for a set of large equipment doors in the middle panel.

Is that the plan?   And if so, are tracks going to extend through those doors, or if not, what are the large doors for?
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Ed Lecuyer on December 28, 2019, 02:32:40 PM
There will be a large barn door in the middle bay. The basic look of the building facade is to resemble a typical New England Barn. This will provide the main public access to the exhibits contained within the structure.

The middle track can not be extended further (through the barn door), due to the placement of the septic system.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Mike Fox on December 28, 2019, 08:14:50 PM
Stewart was working on the Flying Rafters today.

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Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: ALAIN DELASSUS on December 29, 2019, 08:48:40 AM
Thanks for the report. At this rate you're soon going to have a neat  casket to shelter and present the gems of the Maine Narrow Gauge Collection; Having a museum is always a plus for a tourist Ry, we do know that in Pithiviers. BTW  are you going to extend the concrete floor to the rest of the carn barn ? I wonder if the word casket is the apposite one. Have an happy Newyear's eve party you all and take a rest, you deserve it.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Graham Buxton on December 29, 2019, 10:07:47 AM
Hmm, in English, the most common usage for "casket" is to mean the box that a dead person is buried in.   :)

A very generic word for the carbarn would be a structure, or a building.

My understanding is that the rest of the carbarn [dirt] floor will likely be covered with 'reclaim' (at some future date), which is recycled crushed asphalt (road material), compacted in place. 
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Jeff Schumaker on December 29, 2019, 10:29:09 AM
Nice to see all the recent progress, and that you've had decent weather to work in.

Jeff S.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Fred Morse on December 29, 2019, 01:03:57 PM
Some of hope there will be a concrete floor in the whole building, Subject to donations of course.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Carl G. Soderstrom on December 29, 2019, 02:05:43 PM
A Casket could also be a box to display Gems or treasure. Not used much any more.
A Treasure Chest.

Alain has it right - Gems will be displayed.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: John Scott on December 30, 2019, 04:48:00 AM
Cabinet?
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: ALAIN DELASSUS on December 30, 2019, 10:19:16 AM
Thank John and Carl  Actually I think the word jewel box or case would have been the right word it means  coffret or écrin à bijoux in French.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Roger Cole on December 30, 2019, 11:49:04 AM
A Casket could also be a box to display Gems or treasure. Not used much any more.
A Treasure Chest.

Alain has it right - Gems will be displayed.

True.  It's not used in that context any more, but I remember an old, old song that my grandmother used to sing about a rosewood casket.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWbt22aun9M
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Paul Uhland on December 30, 2019, 11:35:55 PM
Leaving the main roof supports in place, will the car barn's east wall be removed as part of the building's coming display space?
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: James Patten on December 31, 2019, 08:04:44 AM
Yes, eventually the "bump out" will be moved north a ways.  Not the whole length because it will interfere with track and the road and crossing to the track shed.  Phase II, which depends on funding.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: ALAIN DELASSUS on December 31, 2019, 09:31:45 AM
Thanks Roger for this nice song. Casket is sure enough dated in the meaning I used it.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Paul Uhland on December 31, 2019, 01:28:25 PM
Thanks, James.
Happy WW&F New Year.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: James Patten on December 31, 2019, 01:32:27 PM
Phase II will also include, I think, ventilation cupolas at the top of the building, and reclaim surface for the rest of the barn.  We'll probably need to relay the third bay track.   Eventually we'll want power in there too, I think, but that might be Phase III.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Brendan Barry on February 05, 2020, 10:09:29 AM
The snow and ice melted off the building so were back at work.

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Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Jeff Schumaker on February 05, 2020, 10:19:07 AM
That went up quickly. What's next?

Jeff S.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Paul Uhland on February 05, 2020, 12:51:07 PM
Very fine-looking work.
Too bad track 1? elevation needs re-set.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Ed Lecuyer on February 05, 2020, 12:56:40 PM
Track/Bay 3 needs some work.

Track/Bays 2 and 1 (1 is closest to the bump out/photographer) are temporarily attached to the existing barn. Additional work in firming up these joints will come in the Spring after the ground thaws.
 
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Brendan Barry on February 05, 2020, 05:29:03 PM
The rest of the roof purlions went on today and the back wall of the bump out was framed in and sheathed.

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Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Mike Fox on February 05, 2020, 06:59:40 PM
Nice chair Fred..
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Wayne Laepple on February 05, 2020, 07:42:37 PM
Making progress while the snow melts.

Those boards on the north wall of the bump-out look familiar. I think I may have helped remove some of them from the former south end wall.

Carry on.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: John Kokas on February 05, 2020, 08:35:33 PM
I still say we need to get Fred a "Directors Chair".
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Harold Downey on February 05, 2020, 08:58:56 PM
Wow, we can't even get the roof on, and it's filling with rolling stock already!
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Mike Fox on February 05, 2020, 09:23:24 PM
Happens with every building we build, including the garage.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Bill Baskerville on February 05, 2020, 10:44:10 PM
Happens with every building we build, including the garage.
  Ditto what Mike said. 

I know expansion is a compromise between current need, future needs, available or projected funds, available space, available volunteer power, etc.  We are constantly chasing our own success.  More rolling stock, more locomotives, more off rail equipment, more MOW equipment, more facilities for our visitors (parking, walks, ticketing, etc.) more activities.

Considering where we started, or looking at any previous point in our growth, what we continue to accomplish is just amazing.  When I watch the activities that go on during the year, it makes me want to move to Maine... However the Maine winters and the spousal relocation is just a mite to great.

Everyone keep up the tremendous work that you are doing and I will be there in the Spring, Summer and Fall to help out as I can.

Bill 
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Roger Cole on February 05, 2020, 10:56:48 PM
Sounds like another corollary of Parkinson's Law - Equipment collections tend to expand to fill all the available space.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Bill Baskerville on February 06, 2020, 12:06:29 AM
Sounds like another corollary of Parkinson's Law - Equipment collections tend to expand to fill all the available space.
I think it is more like - Equipment collections tend to expand to fill 130% of all the available space.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: ALAIN DELASSUS on February 06, 2020, 08:24:58 AM
Thank you so much for the pics that show that things are come along fast in Sheepscot as well . In France a lot of tourist railroads share the lack of room to store and shelter the rollingstock especially over the off-season, the AMTP is no exception.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Dave Crow on February 06, 2020, 11:53:17 AM
Are the boards on the north end of the bump-out from the old South wall, or re-used and cut down from the old East wall?

Dave Crow
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Brendan Barry on February 06, 2020, 07:21:21 PM
The boards are off of the old south wall.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Stewart "Start" Rhine on February 23, 2020, 11:20:25 AM
Yesterday, Zack and I finished installing the fascia boards on the south end overhang.  This part was completed by lunch time.  After lunch, James and I installed the east side fascia strips that finish the "bump out" display area's roof.  Other than covering the end boards with Azek, the roof structure is ready for tin.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Paul Uhland on February 23, 2020, 10:43:13 PM
Fanstastic work, guys.
BTW, what is Azek?
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: John McNamara on February 23, 2020, 11:04:04 PM
See https://azekexteriors.com/products/trim (https://azekexteriors.com/products/trim)
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Benjamin Richards on February 23, 2020, 11:45:46 PM
That stuff is interesting. It's a solid PVC product. The thing that gets you is thermal expansion/contraction. In terms of dimensional stability, wood is most sensitive to moisture (rather than temperature), and mostly so only perpendicular to the grain. With the PVC stuff you really have to watch your gaps in the long dimension, because it MOVES.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Mike Fox on February 24, 2020, 06:33:27 AM
It also comes in smooth or woodgrain finish, the latter of which is what I used on the Pavilion. Expansion and contraction is controlled by using lots of screws.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Mike Fox on March 28, 2020, 07:25:02 PM
Brendan, James and Start had finished the East wall before I left, and Brendan was starting on the south wall.

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Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Paul Uhland on March 30, 2020, 06:56:32 PM
Will the extension roof also get skylight strips?
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Stewart "Start" Rhine on March 30, 2020, 09:05:07 PM
No, it will be all tin. There will be large windows all the way around and electric will be wired in at some point so the display area can have lighting.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Bill Baskerville on April 02, 2020, 11:26:08 AM
In looking at the two pictures above and what is called on FB as the bump out or museum area as opposed to the rolling stock display area I happened to notice that the north end of the car barn extension museum area had been closed off.  I thought the plan was to extend this museum area further to the north until it was stopped to keep from impinging on the north yard turn table track.

Or, is this a temporary stopping point until projects and funding catch up?

Could I be wrong?  Not so early in the year....
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Ed Lecuyer on April 02, 2020, 11:42:33 AM
The northward length of the "bump-out" was curtailed (for now) until funding becomes available for that extension.

There have been a few new ideas tossed around that could include adding a display/storage track for small railroad vehicles (Model T inspection cars, specifically.) However, this would require a new switch in a tight, tricky area.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Paul Uhland on April 02, 2020, 12:12:49 PM
Would be worth the trouble to keep useful, popular Railcar 4 protected and out of the way from increasingly crowded track.
Nowz da time to do it!
We all know youz guyz can solve any problem!  ;)
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Dave Crow on April 02, 2020, 02:12:54 PM
Come off of the turntable lead...

(Ducks and runs for cover.)
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Ed Lecuyer on April 02, 2020, 02:27:03 PM
Come off of the turntable lead...

If you mean the "Roundhouse Lead"; that is the plan, if it possible to do.  The issue is that the switch needs to be placed where the Roundhouse Lead makes an S curve; and we need to keep vehicular access to the water tank/section house.

At any rate, this is just an idea that has been batted about; no decision has been made.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Bill Baskerville on April 02, 2020, 02:55:02 PM
Come off of the turntable lead...

If you mean the "Roundhouse Lead"; that is the plan, if it possible to do.  The issue is that the switch needs to be placed where the Roundhouse Lead makes an S curve; and we need to keep vehicular access to the water tank/section house.

At any rate, this is just an idea that has been batted about; no decision has been made.
Could we remove a little more of the hill, without disturbing 'buttercups' final resting place?  That would give us room for a switch and move the road vehicle access to the water tank/section house a little further south.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Brendan Barry on April 02, 2020, 03:11:51 PM
The east wall side framing for windows in progress and finished.

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Both sides of the big door opening in the front wall framed out for windows and siding.

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Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Dave Crow on April 02, 2020, 03:50:55 PM
Looks great, Brendan!
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Bill Piche on April 02, 2020, 04:11:20 PM
In looking at the two pictures above and what is called on FB as the bump out or museum area as opposed to the rolling stock display area I happened to notice that the north end of the car barn extension museum area had been closed off.  I thought the plan was to extend this museum area further to the north until it was stopped to keep from impinging on the north yard turn table track.

Or, is this a temporary stopping point until projects and funding catch up?

Could I be wrong?  Not so early in the year....

It's a phase of construction with a separate fundraising effort. The first phase is the car storage extension and museum space bump out. Later on the bump out will be extended through an independent fundraising\grant effort.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Bill Baskerville on April 02, 2020, 04:12:54 PM
Thanks Bill

Brendan, I love the tree topping.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Paul Uhland on April 02, 2020, 04:38:57 PM
What will happen on the bumpout's south end? A walk-in door?
And when will roof decking start?
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Graham Buxton on April 02, 2020, 04:57:12 PM
There will be a large door in the south end to be used as primary visitor access. From earlier in this thread:

There will be a large barn door in the middle bay. The basic look of the building facade is to resemble a typical New England Barn. This will provide the main public access to the exhibits contained within the structure.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Stewart "Start" Rhine on April 02, 2020, 05:33:53 PM
What will happen on the bumpout's south end? A walk-in door?

Yes, there will be smaller double doors at the south end of the bump out.  This will provide easy access to the display area, especially when the large rolling doors are kept closed do to rain, cold or windy conditions.  The rolling barn doors will be open in good weather and the area in front of the car barn will be landscaped with a walkway, grass and possibly a small garden.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: John Kokas on April 02, 2020, 06:01:54 PM
North end of the bump-out; switch from roundhouse lead - check, add bump out north - check, just use a 7x9 garage door for the north end.  People won't see it, will be easy to get the Model T in and out, what could be better?
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Wayne Laepple on April 02, 2020, 07:28:34 PM
Let's get the current project done first. We have others waiting in line.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: James Patten on April 04, 2020, 02:41:58 PM
Brendan reports that he got some lumber yesterday, the windows and roof material are due Monday the 6th, and the siding lumber arrived today.  He's got plenty to keep himself busy now.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Brendan Barry on April 04, 2020, 06:39:25 PM
West wall mostly framed in.

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Boards for the siding were delivered from the local sawmill today.

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Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Brendan Barry on April 07, 2020, 07:55:05 PM
Windows, doors, and roofing showed up this week.

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Sheathing going on the east wall.

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Window test fitted in the east wall.

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Double door opening framed out.

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Sheathing going on the front wall.

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Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: James Patten on April 07, 2020, 08:06:02 PM
Better not leave that window open, it might get wet in there Thursday.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Wayne Laepple on April 07, 2020, 08:28:59 PM
Oh man! That's really looking good, Brendan!
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Mike Fox on April 08, 2020, 06:16:03 AM
I see a box of screws on the wall already.. Freds nut and bolt emporium already starting? 😁
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Bill Piche on April 08, 2020, 04:32:56 PM
I see a box of screws on the wall already.. Freds nut and bolt emporium already starting? 😁

We all know the rules, Mike. You can't have a horizontal surface (wall "shelves" and new\rebuilt car "benches") without something on it.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Brendan Barry on April 08, 2020, 05:28:32 PM
The sheathing was finished on the bottom of the wall and scaffolding being set up for the top half.

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Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Jeremy Jordan on April 08, 2020, 07:10:04 PM
Expert workmanship!

Question: Is there a plan to extend the middle track south from the barn?
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Ed Lecuyer on April 08, 2020, 07:22:01 PM
Question: Is there a plan to extend the middle track south from the barn?

No.
Any further track expansion would cross over a septic tank, then end up colliding with the Percival House.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: John McNamara on April 08, 2020, 07:51:44 PM
Question: Is there a plan to extend the middle track south from the barn?

No.
Any further track expansion would cross over a septic tank, then end up colliding with the Percival House.
The Percival House would then be the subject of this mid-50s song:
https://www.lyrics.com/lyric/2390684/Rusty+Draper/In+the+Middle+of+the+House (https://www.lyrics.com/lyric/2390684/Rusty+Draper/In+the+Middle+of+the+House)
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Bob Holmes on April 08, 2020, 07:54:13 PM
Sheathing looks great.  How soon would it be advisable to paint it for weather protection?
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Brendan Barry on April 08, 2020, 08:08:28 PM
Sheathing looks great.  How soon would it be advisable to paint it for weather protection?

The sheathing is green right out of the sawwmill and needs a few months on the side of the building to dry out before paint.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: John Kokas on April 08, 2020, 09:02:27 PM
Will there be batten strips added in the future?
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Stewart "Start" Rhine on April 08, 2020, 09:41:57 PM
Will there be batten strips added in the future?

Yes, once the sheathing has dried out. It will shrink when dry and it's best to delay batten installation until the sheathing is all set.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Gordon Cook on April 09, 2020, 05:53:58 PM
Many thanks for all your efforts.
Pictures of progress and a better future are scarce right now. Seeing them helps a lot.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Gordon Cook on April 09, 2020, 05:56:07 PM
Question: Is there a plan to extend the middle track south from the barn?

No.
Any further track expansion would cross over a septic tank, then end up colliding with the Percival House.
The Percival House would then be the subject of this mid-50s song:
https://www.lyrics.com/lyric/2390684/Rusty+Draper/In+the+Middle+of+the+House (https://www.lyrics.com/lyric/2390684/Rusty+Draper/In+the+Middle+of+the+House)

I wonder what the whistle signal for passing through the kitchen is?
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Bill Reidy on April 09, 2020, 06:57:34 PM
I wonder what the whistle signal for passing through the kitchen is?

It should be a bell.  That's the signal we get from our kitchen crew when lunch is ready.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Gordon Cook on April 10, 2020, 11:18:43 AM
At the risk of wandering into the whimsical:

Maybe bend a little to the west and set up a 'run by' window. At least the engine crews would always be able to get lunch.
 
(Way too much time on my very clean hands.)  ::)
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: John Kokas on April 10, 2020, 12:22:06 PM
Gorden you're a genius!  Come off the roundhouse run-through track, swing to the right next to the house so the train crew can use the Drive-Through, then across Cross Rd. on a balloon track and rejoin the ROW just south of Cross Road and reconnect to the main.  Crew gets fed, watered, train turned, and positioned for next trip all in one move!  Brilliant !!!   ;) ;D 8)
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Bill Baskerville on April 10, 2020, 12:45:26 PM
 ;D Now we all have too much time on our hands....... :o
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Brendan Barry on April 16, 2020, 04:39:50 PM
The front wall was finished this morning.

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Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Bill Reidy on April 16, 2020, 05:39:32 PM
Wow!  Great progress.  Thanks Brendan.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Bob Holmes on April 16, 2020, 07:29:51 PM
Brendan, your photos help keep us energized.  Thanks!!
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Harold Downey on April 16, 2020, 08:10:03 PM
One of these boards is not like the other  ....  You have to sing it.  :)

Really, what's with the yellowish board that is narrower than the others?

 
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Ed Lecuyer on April 16, 2020, 08:13:49 PM
Likely reused from the former facade of the building. It looks narrower because of the missing paint where the battens overlapped.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Mike Fox on April 16, 2020, 09:02:04 PM
Funny Harold. I did the same exact thing when I spotted it. Very frugal to reuse where possible..
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Wayne Laepple on April 16, 2020, 09:25:26 PM
Excellent! The building looks better every time I see it. Thanks for your hard work, Brendan.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Paul Uhland on April 17, 2020, 05:07:36 PM
The west wall still needs sheathing. ?
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Jeff Schumaker on April 18, 2020, 08:20:40 AM
I'm glad to see that progress is still being made on the extension.

Jeff S.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Fred Morse on April 18, 2020, 04:40:29 PM
Just like the old days, A small group of people working on the same project to get it done. In hope it goes that way for a while.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Brendan Barry on April 18, 2020, 05:08:44 PM
Roofing progress today.

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Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Wayne Laepple on April 18, 2020, 05:14:44 PM
You guys are simply amazing! Well done, all!
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Bill Baskerville on April 18, 2020, 06:09:57 PM
Whoa, now your talking.  I know it has taken a lot of work to get us to this stage, but now... Things are really looking great.  A large percentage of the space is now dried in and knowing our Alna locals, the west wall and the remainder of the roof will quickly be completed.  Then a few windows and doors and some of the things that are hovering around in the shop can be rearranged to free up more working space to allow social distancing while working on the many shop projects...

Well done to all who have been working on this, from design, removal of the south wall, footers, rails, concrete, framing, roof trusses, siding, and now roofing. 

A hardy WELL DONE! to all.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Bill Reidy on April 18, 2020, 07:10:00 PM
Just like the old days, A small group of people working on the same project to get it done. In hope it goes that way for a while.

I agree, Fred.  Always great progress, despite what limited resources have been available over the years at a given time.

I miss visiting Sheepscot and seeing friends terribly, but this will pass in due course.  Meanwhile, thanks to Brendan and Stewart for posting photos on the car barn progress.  It helps dealing with social distancing.

 
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Bob Holmes on April 18, 2020, 07:30:04 PM
Do I assume there are no clear roof panels on the extension because we are expecting to get enough light through the window?  Or because we will be getting electricity and lighting to the building?  Or both??
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Mike Fox on April 18, 2020, 08:30:31 PM
Bob, it was decided that the roof panels did not provide the light that was hoped for, so were omitted from the addition. Electric will eventually be needed.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Paul Crabb on April 19, 2020, 01:06:33 PM
Is there a plan to build an interior wall between the bump out and the rolling stock storage area? If so it would provide additional wall space for displays. Of course there would need to be doorways between the two areas.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Wayne Laepple on April 19, 2020, 02:07:45 PM
I am not privy to any plans for the carbarn addition, but I do have a couple of thoughts regarding Paul's question about a wall between the bump out and the rest of the structure. By leaving that space open, there would be opportunities to position some larger artifacts (Vose inspection car, handcar, etc.) or a diorama that could be viewed from all sides. It would also be possible to use two-sided display boards or display cases in that space. In addition, if there was a need for a space for a historic presentation, for instance, it would be available to place chairs, a lectern, a screen, etc. Finally, an open space would permit short-term displays of a collection of photographs, ephemera or artwork. I hasten to add that, other than "Rangeley," I don't know which rolling stock will be displayed in the main space, and there would be  a need to allow circulation of visitors throughout the structure.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Mike Fox on April 19, 2020, 06:18:13 PM
There will be no wall between the bumpout and the car barn itself. Trying to create an open display area. To that end, the MNG had some displays that when we were discussing their needs and desires would be part of the display in the bumpout
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Al Michelis on April 19, 2020, 06:39:20 PM
Mike, thanks for confirming what most of us locals already knew.  I think Wayne has said it quite succinctly.  An open area will make for better exhibit space.  I can envision a changing exhibit, perhaps 2 or 3 times a season.  Much like what Maine State Museum (MSM) does.  If interested, I can ask my friend at the MSM if she would be willing to consult with WW&F and MNG on doing special exhibits.  Perhaps this could serve as an additional attractor.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Bob Holmes on April 19, 2020, 07:30:18 PM
Clearly, the sooner we get electricity to the car barn the better.  It will expand our options exponentially.

BTW, drove by today in wonderful weather, and it all looks great...
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Brendan Barry on April 20, 2020, 05:04:21 PM
Today we dismantled the staging on the west wall and put up the sheathing.

With staging.

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Without staging.

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Boards going up.

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Fred did most of the cutting.

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The west side closed in.

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Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Bill Reidy on April 20, 2020, 05:55:22 PM
Thanks Brendan.  Great progress on the barn, and it's good to see Fred and Stewart, albeit from far away.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Bob Holmes on April 20, 2020, 07:04:35 PM
Wow, absolutely Wow!  So are we going to sheath the internal walls?  Otherwise, the horizontal members will become just another junk wall...??
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Jeff Schumaker on April 20, 2020, 09:05:54 PM
Fantastic!

Jeff S.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: James Patten on April 20, 2020, 09:19:42 PM
I think there's just enough money to finish the shell with doors and windows, nothing beyond that.  As to becoming an extension of the National Nail and Screw Museum, this area is supposed to be a display area highlighting the Rangeley and probably the 1880s B&SR coach, so it shouldn't happen.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Steve Smith on April 21, 2020, 01:43:34 AM
National Nail and Screw Museum.....I love it! ;D Thanks, James.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Graham Buxton on April 21, 2020, 07:30:48 AM
As the Extension area is intended to be a "display" area, and occasional meeting area, the odds are pretty good that electric lighting & wall plugs etc will get installed in the future.   But electrical wiring needs to be installed before interior wall cladding (wood boards or drywall etc).
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Wayne Laepple on April 21, 2020, 08:31:16 AM
It seems to me that the lower eight feet of the interior walls could be covered in four-foot increments, as funds become available, by placing 4 x 8 sheets of plywood or other suitable material. Start at a corner and work around the walls. Be sure the wall material is strong enough for photo displays, posters, etc. to be hung. As progress is made around the walls, electrical outlets, etc. could be located piecemeal.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: John Kokas on April 21, 2020, 10:17:27 AM
I agree - we should (incrementally) finish the interior walls.  I actually would recommend batt insulation and then pegboard (painted surface) in keeping with the open space / exhibit concept.  It would then make it very easy to hang displays and artifacts as well as make it very easy to change/revise displays over time.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Paul Uhland on April 21, 2020, 12:29:23 PM
Makes the most sense.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Wayne Laepple on April 21, 2020, 01:01:31 PM
I like the pegboard idea, but I think the west wall should probably all plywood plywood, since the clearance between the wall and the rolling stock is pretty limited. Not enough space really to step back to view a photo or a poster. And how about  pegboard between the windows, with solid plywood above and below the windows on the south and east sides?.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Brendan Barry on April 21, 2020, 01:18:25 PM
We put some of the windows in this morning.

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Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: John Kokas on April 21, 2020, 06:45:42 PM
I would recommend moisture-resistant green board for the west wall, spackle and paint -  a lot cheaper/sheet than plywood.  Also agree with Wayne's suggestion of Ply. or green-board above and below windows.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Carl G. Soderstrom on April 21, 2020, 11:55:08 PM
Was going to recommend Slatwall - but that cost 4 (on sale) to 5 X that of plywood -
at the place of the Orange Vests.

If the building is not going to be heated then single sheathing would be OK where
there are no displays. If flat area syndrome rears its head, some 1/8th inch slant boards
would curb that and make it easier to dust.
 
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Graham Buxton on April 22, 2020, 12:38:52 AM
Its possible to 'make your own' slatwall from a standard panel, or from individual boards - with an appropriate router bit.  Here is one example:
https://www.orangealuminum.com/slatwall-inserts-and-systems/router-bits.html

That vendor also offers "inserts" for the slats, to match the slot cut by their router bits:

https://www.orangealuminum.com/slatwall-inserts-and-systems/slatwall-inserts.html

Inserts are not required, but offer better durability to the slot, and perhaps a more finished appearance.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Bob Holmes on April 22, 2020, 08:24:00 AM
Consider sheathing with board such as we did in the shop??
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Wayne Laepple on April 22, 2020, 06:49:57 PM
I like John's idea of green board on the west wall, especially if it's finished and then painted satin-finish white to reflect light. When the dark-colored passenger equipment is in there, it will absorb a lot of the ambient light coming in the windows.

The Slatwall stuff looks very professional, but also looks very expensive! And the fittings to support stuff will cost a bunch as well, I would bet.

I don't know if there is a "Collaborative Interior Display Committee," but such a group should have some say how the interior is finished and lit, if electricity eventually is to be installed.

Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Bob Holmes on April 22, 2020, 07:50:07 PM
I think we can assume that electricity will be installed.  Once we get a feed over there, that's relatively modest investment to get the building fully wired.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Vincent "Lightning" LeRow on April 23, 2020, 10:34:48 AM
Considering Electricity will be installed, and the increased activity in the building in general, it appears to be time to reconsider fire suppression.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Graham Buxton on April 23, 2020, 11:17:44 AM
Considering Electricity will be installed, and the increased activity in the building in general, it appears to be time to reconsider fire suppression.

There is some discussion about fire sprinkler plans in an earlier thread:
Fire suppression is being planned. A dry system, fed by an outside source, a fire truck. A lot of planning has gone into that already. Including how to do it with as little as 2 fire fighters, all to buy time until manpower can show up.

Clicking on the quote 'link' should take one to that earlier thread.

Installing a sprinkler system is is likely to be expensive. So plenty of $$$$ [and time] involved.  :)
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: John McNamara on April 23, 2020, 11:30:00 AM
Extending the fire alarm system at the same time we extend the electricity is likely, so that's a start. We also need to extend the existing fire alarm system to cover the shop extension of a few years ago. I volunteered to pay for the alarm extension in the shop extension, but that fell by the wayside.

Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Mike Fox on April 23, 2020, 12:58:34 PM
The same type of dry system could be installed in the car barn. We can't use a normal system because you would need a water source, like supplied water, that can last for a specific (I forget the exact length) amount of time. And, we have this thing called winter where there is a chance for the system to freeze.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Brendan Barry on April 23, 2020, 05:37:55 PM
Battens, windows, and trim is done on the east wall. We started on the front wall this afternoon.

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Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: John Kokas on April 23, 2020, 07:01:59 PM
Have we planned for roof rakes on these long pitched slopes?
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: James Patten on April 23, 2020, 07:15:46 PM
That's a steel roof.  No roof rakes needed, it will all come down on its own.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: John Kokas on April 23, 2020, 08:46:10 PM
That's what I'm afraid of - and someone will just happen to be standing there.  Just say'in .....
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: James Patten on April 23, 2020, 09:00:47 PM
...and that person will be smart enough to avoid it next time.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Mike the Choochoo Nix on April 24, 2020, 08:59:48 AM
In regards to fire protection in the car barn, If it isn't already the rule, I hope the board makes it clear that NO torch work or grinding  or anything with an open flame or sparks is allowed to take place in or near there.
M. Nix
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Brendan Barry on April 24, 2020, 04:44:28 PM
We started trimming out the front wall today.

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Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Jeff Schumaker on April 25, 2020, 10:02:15 AM
It's nice to see the sheathing up and the windows installed.

Jeff S.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Duncan Mackiewicz on April 25, 2020, 10:43:00 AM
The extension really looks great. The gang doing the sheathing are moving quickly and doing great work. Thanks for sharing the latest pics for all of us in the "away" category. I, for one, really wish I could be there to be part of this latest work.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Carl G. Soderstrom on April 25, 2020, 11:49:57 AM
Looking good!

Looking how close the tracks are to the end wall, is there any provision to keep a knuckle from
taking out the endwall ?

Wheel Chocks would seem to be tripping hazard. Blocking the flange-way would help but may not
be enough.

2 ideas:
Set a post vertical post close to wall (square w/ angle iron on trackside corners) would
be mostly out of the way.

Or make the wall under the window breakaway so if a knuckle does hit it does
not spring the whole wall.

I know you guys are careful, but sometimes gravity and physics rear their nasty habits.
They do have good habits but the nasty ones usually make a mess.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: ALAIN DELASSUS on April 25, 2020, 01:39:15 PM
Thank you so much Brendan for keeping us posted through your pics that go to show that things are still coming along. The facade of the future museum looks really good.
Carl is right about the meeting between the the back wall  and a knuckle. Once in Pithiviers  the central buffer of a car met  a tank full of gasoil at the back of the engineshed . Just imagine the aftermath. But I'm sure you have already pondered that issue and found something efficient to avoid breaking such a beautifull facade.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Brendan Barry on April 25, 2020, 03:18:06 PM
We put the rest of the roof sheets we had on hand on the building this morning. I'll have to order the rest of the sheets Monday.

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The rest of the soffit was finished on the front wall and the last window was put in.

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Looking in from the big door opening.

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From the front corner of the bump out.

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From the back corner of the bump out.

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Standing on the Bridgton caboose on track 3.

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Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Bill Baskerville on April 25, 2020, 03:23:55 PM
Brendan,  Thanks for the continued picture updates.  Now that I have seen what a good job Fred has been doing keeping all you minions straight, and apart from each other, it is good to see him taking a well deserved rest in the shade of our new car barn extension.

Keep 'em straight Fred....  I now feel like my SWW from far away is complete.... well sort of.....
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Paul Uhland on April 25, 2020, 03:33:16 PM
What is the next bulding project after the car barn extension and Alna performance space completion?
Is the Wiscasset parking lot expansion officially open?
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Mike Fox on April 25, 2020, 06:46:53 PM
Even the president does the sweeping

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Of course under direct supervision

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Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Wayne Laepple on April 25, 2020, 06:59:51 PM
There are several projects to be completed before any more start, I hope. Mountain Extension ballasting and surfacing, Trout Brook runaround, Trout Brook turntable, coach 9, etc., etc.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: James Patten on April 25, 2020, 07:04:13 PM
The rest of the car barn needs improvements, too, before we do any new projects: better drainage on the east side, eventually the bump out will be extended, build up the surface inside so that it is level with the concrete.  And then people on here are talking electricity and fire suppression.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Bob Holmes on April 25, 2020, 07:31:48 PM
With all that we and MNG have invested in this project to project invaluable Maine 2-foot equipment, it seems to me that fire suppression should be at the top of our list.  That probably also requires electricity, so how do we get there?
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: John Kokas on April 25, 2020, 07:34:41 PM
I think in the longer term that the carbarn will transition into museum space and storage.  I would not be surprised in the future the need to have more finished flooring in concrete.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Bill Baskerville on April 25, 2020, 10:06:34 PM
John,

I think the plan is to floor the original car barn with some sort of reclaimed asphalt or rubber material from old tires that will bring it up to the level of the concrete floor.  Perhaps one of our more educated members can refresh our memories of what that material is.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: John Scott on April 29, 2020, 06:12:44 AM
The Car Barn has become an impressive example of timber building construction. Congratulations to all those responsible.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Graham Buxton on April 29, 2020, 09:56:08 AM
! think the plan is to floor the original car barn with some sort of reclaimed asphalt or rubber material from old tires that will bring it up to the level of the concrete floor.  Perhaps one of our more educated members can refresh our memories of what that material is.

I can't speak to Ed's education, ;D but he generally  seems to be 'plugged in' ...  8)


The Car Barn/Exhibit Space project has several phases.

The current Phase (build out, initial displays) is fully funded (or nearly so.)

The next phase is a reclaimed asphalt floor to be added in the 'old' part of the structure. This is going to cost roughly $4100 in materials. We have a grant application submitted to cover this expense. We should be hearing about the results of that request in the 90 days or so.

Other phases include electrical installation, extension of the 'bump out', and a few other improvements.

I think its fair to say that $4100 is just a fraction of what a 'poured concrete' floor would cost.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Ed Lecuyer on April 29, 2020, 11:37:18 AM
Since you asked:
B.S. Computer Science, 1992, University of Lowell (aka UMass, Lowell)
Minor in Sound Recording Technology; Directed Study in Music Theory and Composition

Emphasis on the BS.



I forgot I posted previously about the reclaimed asphalt floor and the grant. I can now report that we did NOT receive the grant- so the floor project is awaiting funding.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Wayne Laepple on April 29, 2020, 04:01:43 PM
Regarding the exhibit hall and the rest of the building, there are two temporary options. First, depending on which artifacts are to be displayed on rail, it might work to have a passenger car at the south end of track 3, coupled to a second car that extends into the carbarn. Or perhaps Monson No. 4 coupled to the B&SR caboose on track 3. Have a single artifact on Track 2, leaving a space at the south end for people to enter comfortably. "Rangeley" on Track 1, also with walking space around the south end. Use caution tape at the north end of the walkway between Track 3 and Track 2 and between Track 2 and Track 1 to discourage visitors from entering the original carbarn.

The second option would be to make a ramp from the concrete floor of the exhibit hall to ground level between Track 1 and Track 2 in the carbarn so visitors could safely move into the carbarn. Equipment could be displayed on Tracks 1 and 2 in the carbarn, while Track 3 would be "off limits" with stored rolling stock. A sign at the north end would direct visitors out the man door at the north end or out the main door of the Track 1.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Brendan Barry on April 29, 2020, 04:27:34 PM
The front wall is all done except for the battens over the double doors. We have to put the doors in and trim around the doors before the battens can go up.

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Battens going on the back wall of the bumpout.

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Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Bill Baskerville on April 29, 2020, 04:30:14 PM
I know we now must be careful of protecting our visitors.  Usually when engaged by a visitor most of us are willing to show them around.  Some visitors, while waiting for a train take their own tour.  I also know that we have, in the past, invited visitors to wander around and look at the artifacts.  Somewhere between the traditional 'don't touch' and 'stand back ropes' and our traditional free to wander approach is the proper path.  I would hate to see us become a 'don't touch' museum.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: John McNamara on April 29, 2020, 04:45:10 PM
I wonder if we should have no wall, a waist-height wall, a half-height wall, or a full height wall between the cement floor portion and the reclaimed asphalt floor portion.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: ALAIN DELASSUS on April 30, 2020, 10:15:35 AM
Hello ! AMTP Pithiviers Museum is not really a "Don't touch" museum but it's not free of charge. When a visitor buys a ticket at the depot he/she  can both ride the train and visit freely the museum , you can  also buy  tickets to visit the museum only but they are  seldom sold. Mostly there is no conducted visit for individual visitors. A museum docent can  give explanations to a group of visitors if they have asked for it beforehand. All the small artifacts are in  locked showcases and the biggest ones like lanterns are linked together with a padlocked concealed steel caable or fixed to the wall to avoid them being stolen. As regards the  steam locomotives that are in the museum  everybody can climb into the cab as they are not too high, the kids love that. Quite a lot of French/English written notices give explanations to the visitors about what they can admire there.  Between trains the station agent must go  to the museum to see if everything is OK. Moreover the souvenir booth is located at the entrance of the museum and the volunteer in charge of it can also give a quick look around. Fortunately we haven't had any theft or damage so far. My two cent's worth, a security camera connected to the souvenir shop or the dispatcher ought to do the trick.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Carl G. Soderstrom on May 01, 2020, 01:38:35 AM
Alain
Good thought about camera- not so much about theft, though there are sticky fingered individuals
that want to "Liberate" items - but also to see if there is inappropriate behavior. An intercom
so an admonition may be delivered " I see you". :-)
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Ted Miles on May 03, 2020, 02:32:49 PM
At the Western Railway Museum, our car Barn Three is a closed car barn; the only time when visitors can go in there with our highest quality Interurbans is when a Docent takes a tour through the barn. I would hate to see some vandalism in the Rangeley, after all these years. 
Ted Miles WW&F Member and WRM volunteer tour guide
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Bob Holmes on May 03, 2020, 07:51:21 PM
Again, cameras require electricity whether wired or battery operated.  And a base station for recording what they see.  Something to seriously consider at Sheepscot.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Wayne Laepple on May 03, 2020, 09:38:39 PM
As I recall from my several visits to Portland over the part 20 years or so, whenever the display building was open, there was at least one and usually a couple of people walking around, chatting with visitors and generally keeping an eye on things. In fact, I remember once a volunteer admonished me when I stepped up on a step on "Rangeley" to get a peek inside. Will MNG folks do the same at Sheepscot?
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Brendan Barry on May 05, 2020, 03:36:23 PM
We got the west wall finished.

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Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Wayne Laepple on May 05, 2020, 04:48:12 PM
Looks really good, Brendan and crew. Has the rest of the roofing arrived yet?
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Stewart "Start" Rhine on May 05, 2020, 05:15:36 PM
Not yet, we may have to put some temporary covering on the missing roof.  Note that we used a lot of old lumber on the west side sheathing and battens. We have gone through just about all the old lumber.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Carl G. Soderstrom on May 07, 2020, 12:13:47 AM
Last I knew there was used plywood in the trusses of the older section of the Car Barn
could that not be used temporarily on the roof?
Or is that more work than it is worth?
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Paul Uhland on May 07, 2020, 12:46:08 PM
Looks first-rate, as usual.  ;)

What is that bulletin board/sign mounted between the east bigger window and bumpout door opening?  :o

Wish youze would always ID who is working. Never hurts to name, especially volunteers, great for morale.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Stewart "Start" Rhine on May 19, 2020, 05:09:01 PM
The rest of the steel roof was installed today.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Mike the Choochoo Nix on May 19, 2020, 09:16:42 PM
"The roof is on"
Praise the Lord for those dedicated volunteers !   
M.Nix
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Brendan Barry on May 25, 2020, 12:57:30 PM
Car barn progress. The roof is complete except for two trim pieces on the end we have to get. Both big doors are built and the double man doors are in.

Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Brendan Barry on May 25, 2020, 12:58:37 PM
One of the big doors.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Brendan Barry on May 25, 2020, 01:00:03 PM
The man doors in.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Roger Cole on May 25, 2020, 03:18:11 PM
Dumb question - why does the large middle opening look big enough for a rail car if the tracks end before reaching the end of the building?  Are their future plans to continue tracks on out that big set of double doors?
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: John McNamara on May 25, 2020, 05:52:04 PM
I don't think the big doors are intended for delivering rail equipment. There is a ramp track over between the restrooms and the garage that has that purpose. Of course the follow-on question is (as you state) why they are so big?
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Dwight Winkley on May 25, 2020, 06:01:57 PM
Roger, Just in front of the large doorway is a buried septic tank. Plan is to have a lawn in front of the exhibit barn.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Bob Holmes on May 25, 2020, 08:04:08 PM
To maintain the the appearance as a car barn? Why not?
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Ed Lecuyer on May 25, 2020, 09:16:49 PM
The intent was to make the front resemble a typical Maine barn. The large doors, I believe are intended to be open when the museum is operating (weather permitting) to provide a visual invitation for visitors to explore the exhibits.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Stewart "Start" Rhine on May 25, 2020, 10:39:15 PM
Since the exhibit hall has no sky lights, the open doors will let extra light into the south end of the building.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Stewart "Start" Rhine on July 04, 2020, 07:24:06 PM
During the week Brendan fabricated 6 new strap hinges for the large doors.  Today, all hinges were prime painted on both sides.  This was possible because the primer dried quickly in the sun.  The hinges are now in the exhibit hall waiting to be installed on the doors.

The two large doors received a prime coat last weekend and will get their finish coat after they are hung.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Fred L. Kuhns on July 16, 2020, 05:29:45 PM
 Brendan,  A little or a year ago the Car Barn Extension construction was began.  The reporting of the progress was greatly appreciated. It now appears you and your crew are ready to began working on finishing the interior, looking forward to the next stage of progress reports.  The pictures of the progress, on all locations of your website , provided added clarity to your written reports.   Thanks,  Fred L. Kuhns
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Stewart "Start" Rhine on July 16, 2020, 10:23:37 PM
The two large front doors were hung on Tuesday 7/14 and the hardware was prime painted on Wednesday.  The Parlor Car Rangeley and B&SR locomotive #7 were moved into the exhibit hall Wednesday afternoon.  Today, the door jamb strips were installed.  The doors are fastened shut, waiting for the latch to be made. There's a center strip that needs to be added as well. 

Volunteers from MNG will meet with our folks next week to discuss inside displays and landscaping in front of the building.  Engine 7 will be cleaned in preparation for display during the Annual Picnic next month.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Stewart "Start" Rhine on July 17, 2020, 09:49:45 AM
Here are a few comments on the exhibit hall posted by followers of the WW&F Facebook page:

* Beautiful building
* What a great job, wish I lived closer to the WW&F.
* Magnificent structure.
* Such a beautiful project, well done.
* The exhibit hall certainly gives the car barn a more welcome feel.
* Stunning serene simplicity.
* Well done Brendan and crew for the achievement of that project.  The future WW&F Museum looks great all due to you and the crew that shared in the work.
* Wow, that looks great.
* Awesome job!
* Love it!!
* Great job, congrats to all that were involved.  A museum is definitely a plus for a tourist railway.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: John Kokas on July 17, 2020, 04:31:10 PM
It looks fantastic !!!  Great job Brendan and crew.......
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Brendan Barry on August 04, 2020, 05:53:06 PM
Car barn over the last couple of months. Just need two pieces of roof trim and some landscaping out front to finish the building.

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Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Graham Buxton on August 04, 2020, 06:17:05 PM
The Carbarn looks great!

... some landscaping out front ...
Perhaps the landscaping could include a 'fake rock'* to hide the septic/sewer electrical box featured prominently in the garden out front.  :P


*(hollow fiberglass/resin/plastic rock, sized to fit over the electrical box & conduit; various sized options illustrated here:
https://www.homedepot.com/s/fiberglass%2520landscape%2520rock?NCNI-5
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Wayne Laepple on August 04, 2020, 08:14:35 PM
But no drip pans or diapers under No. 7 yet. Now the floor is stained.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Bill Baskerville on August 04, 2020, 10:33:18 PM
The Carbarn looks great!

... some landscaping out front ...
Perhaps the landscaping could include a 'fake rock'* to hide the septic/sewer electrical box featured prominently in the garden out front.  :P
Perhaps we can find something more railroadie like an old steam dome or a caboose cupola or even a switch stand on a box that covers the electrical box.  The nice thing about a cupola is if one looks closely, the electrical box isn't hidden.  A wooden switch stand base could have an access door for the electrical box.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Paul Uhland on August 05, 2020, 02:39:08 AM
Nice door, paint work, guys.
Can't wait to see da parking lot area spruced up.
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Benjamin Richards on August 05, 2020, 11:03:27 AM
But no drip pans or diapers under No. 7 yet. Now the floor is stained.
Better sooner than later, I guess. It's like a new car. "The first dent is the hardest."
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Roger Cole on August 05, 2020, 04:55:14 PM
Reminds me of the older Harley Davidson motorcycles.  They always "marked their spot".
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Vincent "Lightning" LeRow on August 05, 2020, 08:44:00 PM
Wouldn't be a Baldwin if it didn't leak a little oil...
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Mike Arnold on August 06, 2020, 09:31:17 AM
Wouldn't be a Baldwin if it didn't leak a little oil...

Just like a Detroit if it’s not leaking oil somethings wrong!
Mike
Title: Re: Car Barn Extension - Official Work Thread
Post by: Mike Fox on August 06, 2020, 10:53:49 AM
I flew in a Chinook helicopter a few times while I was in the Army. I pointed a leak out to one of the crew members. He said 2 things. "Don't sit under it" and "if it ain't leaking we ain't flying". I watched it drip the whole flight..guess we had enough oil 😉