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Title: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Joe Fox on October 01, 2018, 08:31:07 AM
We have a busy week ahead of us, with many arriving early to help finalize the prep for Falll Work Weekend. Today a center line will be resurveyed along the rail grade, and a marker placed at the end of our goal. (Would hate to see us get ahead of ourselves. :) ) Crane should be finished later today, and hopefully recieve a load test in the afternoon.

Other work later this week include testing out the crane, loading the track building train, finish preparations for work at Sheepscott, etc.
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Bill Baskerville on October 01, 2018, 01:41:05 PM
I plan on arriving mid to late morning on Thursday to help get ready.

Bill
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Jeff Schumaker on October 01, 2018, 02:33:12 PM
I have a late morning flight out of Detroit on Wednesday. Due to a long layover in Chicago, I'll arrive at Manchester at 5 pm. That means I won't get to the museum until after dark Wednesday evening.

Jeff S.
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: James Patten on October 03, 2018, 11:15:48 AM
Anticipated work for weekend of October 6: Fall Work Weekend.  Do I need to spell it out?

* Track laying - goal of 1400 feet
* Percival house - build a new deck and stairs
* Utilities - dig the trenches for utilities between future drop site and car shop and Percival house
* New parking lot - clearing for the new lot
* Food, food, food - feeding the troops, I think Nancy Weeks is in charge of that.  She may be doing all 3 meals again this weekend.

Going on elsewhere nearby this weekend is the Damariscotta Pumpkinfest.  The downtown gets decorated with massive pumpkins that have been carved, drawn or painted on.  Just don't go in town during the day as you won't find any parking.
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Paul Uhland on October 03, 2018, 05:20:11 PM
James...
In the spirit of clarifying your FWW agenda (blame my TV journalism background), especially per new volunteers' expectations:
*Percival House--build a new deck and stairs at east entry, replacing demolished handicap ramp.
*Utilities--dig the trenches for utilities connecting future drop site (at new power pole?), car shop and PH.
*New parking lot-- clearing where, exactly?
Good luck, all!
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Mike Fox on October 03, 2018, 06:22:30 PM
Paul,
New parking lot will be west of the current one.

Ditch for utility conduit will be between the car shop and the house. It will not go to the pole. Not this time anyway.

They have removed the old deck and handicap ramp from the east side of the house, that is the side that faces the station and shop, and will build a much smaller deck and stairs for emergency access.
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Joe Fox on October 03, 2018, 07:25:09 PM
Unfortunately I will be unable to attend the work weekend on Saturday and only do a half day on Friday. :/ Hoping to be there all day Sunday, but that will depend on work.
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: John McNamara on October 03, 2018, 08:58:22 PM
I won't be there until Sunday afternoon, but I hope to extend the magneto phone line northward for about 1000 feet from the TOM phone box. This will involve retrieving the reel stand and 1000" (?) roll of 14-2 UF-B from upstairs in  the shop building and bringing it to TOM. The next step will be running it in the eastern ditch beside the rail. This is the same technique that Jason and Steve Z used in extending line the last several hundred feet to TOM. Any help would be appreciated.
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Paul Uhland on October 03, 2018, 09:40:33 PM
Wish I could help you. Worked as a teltech in a closed Abq chip/wafer plant with over 2400 'stations', was converting over to personal computers. Never a dull moment.
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Al Michelis on October 04, 2018, 01:04:25 PM
John,

I'll give you a hand. 
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: John McNamara on October 04, 2018, 02:25:54 PM
John,

I'll give you a hand.
Thanks! I'll be there Sunday afternoon and Monday. :)
-John M
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Al Michelis on October 04, 2018, 04:12:17 PM
John,

I'll give you a hand.
Thanks! I'll be there Sunday afternoon and Monday. :)
-John M

I can't be there on Monday.  Have appointments in Augusta.  Perhaps we will finish on Sunday.
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: John McNamara on October 04, 2018, 07:35:43 PM
Someone bringing the reel stand and reel to TOM on any day before Sunday would be a great help. Thanks!
John M
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Joe Fox on October 04, 2018, 09:15:44 PM
Hey John,

Everything is officially all loaded up for first thing tomorrow. We will leave your phone line and reel at ToM Friday morning.
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: James Patten on October 04, 2018, 09:25:42 PM
FWW Day 0 (Thursday):

Joe coordinated a crew to roll out the road cloth.  There is now road cloth to past the pinch point, alas none under the 150 feet of track they put down yesterday which is quite muddy.  Then some track was lined.  Meanwhile back at Sheepscot the construction train was loaded up with rail and ties.  Additionally there was a crew in the shop working but I didn't see on what.
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: James Patten on October 05, 2018, 10:21:07 PM
FWW Day 1 (Friday), Track crew report:

I think we can all agree that the crane system is a success.  There were two cycles of track laying, as the train went back at noon for a reload.  It took about 2.5 hours to put down a train's load of ties and rail.  Sorry, but I can't remember how much that is!  The end of track at the end of the day today was at the former slide location.

I can't report about the rest of the campus as I had to head straight home once I got back.
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Joe Fox on October 05, 2018, 10:35:50 PM
560 track feet is able to be laid per day at two cycles per day. Everyone that was on the track crew today did a spectacular job. Wish I could have stayed and helped out all day. :/
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Bob Holmes on October 05, 2018, 11:22:41 PM
Today's rail ended past the pinch point, halfway to our 1400 foot goal!  Some of us remember last winter when the pinch point was only a 12 inch icy path...progress!
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: James Patten on October 05, 2018, 11:35:52 PM
That's not the pinch point, it was the slide.  The pinch point is where the vertical wall is.  We'll encounter that tomorrow about lunchtime.
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Bill Baskerville on October 05, 2018, 11:38:31 PM
John, your wire and roll stand is on the work train in the caboose.
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: John McNamara on October 06, 2018, 12:46:46 AM
John, your wire and roll stand is on the work train in the caboose.
Great! Thanks! Does the roll stand include the piece of pipe that goes between the uprights of the reel stand? Also, is the wire 14-2 UFB (gray stuff)? I will be bringing a 4x4 phone post with me when I come on Sunday afternoon.
Thanks!
-John M
p.s. I know that Mike is preparing to bury the wire, so we should consider this to be a temporary installation.
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Joe Fox on October 06, 2018, 05:01:36 AM
Yes, the pipe is included with the reel. Provided no one takes it out. I will.make sure it gets delivered at ToM Sunday morning so you are not trying to hunt it down.
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Bill Baskerville on October 06, 2018, 09:51:28 AM
I put all of it including the pipe on the caboose day before yesterday I’ll make sure it’s still there today. The caboose has been going up with the word train every day.
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Joe Fox on October 06, 2018, 04:01:30 PM
Hey Everyone,

In the event of my absence today, here is the slideshow that was promised to be debuted tonight. Unfortunately I was unable to include everything I really wanted to, but think this really shows the major projects that were done behind the scenes this year. Next year I will include a slideshow with fewer words, and show more. Thank you everyone for your generous support, and time. Without all of you, this would still be a dream.

https://youtu.be/ziJApvP1Qvg

Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Bob Holmes on October 06, 2018, 11:11:21 PM
Woops, sorry Joe, it was the slide...
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Bob Holmes on October 06, 2018, 11:20:18 PM
Joe, really nice.  You are getting a lot better at this.  And using Johnny Cash was inspirational...
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: James Patten on October 06, 2018, 11:42:13 PM
FWW Day 2 (Saturday) - Track report:

* We got in two cycles but not quite 560 feet due to needing to reject one rail for cracks.  The end of track is nearly on the straightaway.  We started at the north end of the slide area in the morning.

Observations from back at Sheepscot:
* New parking lot: a large swath of area was cleared of trees and undergrowth.
* Two of the mentioned projects were prepping for crane rail in the car shop and clearing the walls of stuff in preparation for insulation.  I didn't see anything that looked like crane rails going in, but can't really comment on the clearing of the walls.
* Mike dug a large ditch and Josh filled it with conduit.  Much of the ditch is closed up.  This is preparation for buried utilities.
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Wayne Laepple on October 06, 2018, 11:49:44 PM
Where is the end of track today in relation to the (former) Pinch Point and/or location points on the map?
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Bill Baskerville on October 07, 2018, 12:09:20 AM
 Other things accomplished:
The decking in the handrails on the back porch were finished along with the shake siding for the basement entrance dog house which was never installed when the entrance foyer was built because of the close proximity of the old porch.
The crane rails for bay 3 are outside of bay three and the brackets from which they will be suspended are almost completed. There are a great number of brackets required to support the crane rails.
Of course trains were run and a great deal of food was prepared and consumed.
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Joe Fox on October 07, 2018, 12:12:24 AM
Wayne, the end of track is currently just south of location 9. North of the pinch point.
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Wayne Laepple on October 07, 2018, 12:28:25 AM
Thanks, Joe. I appreciate the information.
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Paul Uhland on October 07, 2018, 04:06:41 PM
Are the coming "crane rails" over bay 3 similar to those over bay 2? Not clear to me.
Track build progress suggestion: snap a pic of day's track end, with short location note.

Amount of noticeable WW&F work going on is incredible!
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Bill Baskerville on October 07, 2018, 10:50:07 PM
Total track laid for the work weekend was 1420’ by  11 o’clock this morning.
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Paul Uhland on October 08, 2018, 12:42:34 AM
Bill...you mean total track LAID? If so, gloryoskie! ;D ;D ;D
Thought I even saw Loco 9 on the new track!
Well, well done gandies. And Wonder Crane, too.
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Wayne Laepple on October 08, 2018, 02:04:56 PM
It's worth noting, I think, that among the volunteers who were on the scene over the weekend, there were folks representing several other museums and tourist railroads. Thanks to all!
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Joe Fox on October 08, 2018, 02:24:45 PM
Yes, as always we are fortunate to have so many experienced and non experienced volunteers from a few different railroads. And as normal, we showed our appreciation by trying to talk to and thank everyone for all their help.

But even more importantly are those regular volunteers who spent hundreds of hours prepairing for the work weekend.
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Stewart "Start" Rhine on October 08, 2018, 08:19:02 PM
The gift shop crew planned weeks in advance, having new shirts made for the bridge project as well as other merchandise.  Thanks to the many volunteers who made purchases, the gift shop had sales over $4,100
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: James Patten on October 08, 2018, 09:36:35 PM
FWW Day 4: Monday

A small crew today.

* Track crew: Some maintenance was done at Albee's Field, jacking and tamping.  However we got a late start so lunch time crept up on us.  While waiting for the tamper to finish, the crew retreived all the tools and trash from the end of track.
* Phone line: The line has been extended down the hill, not quite reaching the former end point.
* Parking Lot: Brendan was busy continuing to clear the parking lot.
* Loco 9: The engine was drained and cleaned.
* Food: Nancy served breakfast and lunch, then cleaned up.
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Fred Morse on October 08, 2018, 10:20:25 PM
The pick-up was loaded with ties to take to the dump tomorrow. I cut them in half for easy unloading. When your 82 and have no crew, it's best to cut the ties into!
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Jeff Schumaker on October 08, 2018, 11:10:11 PM
FWW Day 4: Monday

A small crew today.

* Track crew: Some maintenance was done at Albee's Field, jacking and tamping.  However we got a late start so lunch time crept up on us.  While waiting for the tamper to finish, the crew retreived all the tools and trash from the end of track.
* Phone line: The line has been extended down the hill, not quite reaching the former end point.
* Parking Lot: Brendan was busy continuing to clear the parking lot.
* Loco 9: The engine was drained and cleaned.
* Food: Nancy served breakfast and lunch, then cleaned up.

Also, "backup" center line stakes were driven along the side of the r-o-w, in case spring ballasting moves the track out of position. (Rick, I hope I described this correctly) :o

Jeff S.
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Joe Fox on October 08, 2018, 11:36:16 PM
That is indeed correct Jeff. Train travel, along with temperature changes will likely cause the track to shift slightly over the course of the winter.

That is awesome. Glad to hear the gift shop went well, and I look forward to wearing my new t-shirt and hat while on vacation to CT and PA next week.
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: John McNamara on October 09, 2018, 03:01:20 AM
FWW Day 4
* Phone line: The line has been extended down the hill, not quite reaching the former end point.

Matt Christoforo, Edward Eubank, and Joseph Gilbert (and I) completed the magneto phone line work that they began on Sunday. The complete line now runs from part way down the hill nearest TOM to Sheepscot and was tested over that distance. Aided by their youthful enthusiasm and skillful craftsmanship, i’m at an all time high of magphone line optimism. Thanks guys!!!
John
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Fred Morse on October 09, 2018, 06:47:41 PM
Today 5 pick-up truck loads of cut up ties were taken to the dump.
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Joe Fox on October 09, 2018, 06:57:12 PM
Thank you Fred. See everyone in two weeks, then I hope to jump full force into some track maintenance.
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Jason M Lamontagne on October 09, 2018, 07:00:22 PM
64 junk ties picked up from Davis grade today using the crane.  Cleaned up from Sutter’s south to the whistle post.  Plenty more to go; well leave the crane on for now to continue the job.

See ya
Jason
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Mike Fox on October 10, 2018, 12:05:53 AM
Great additional benefits to the crane. Ichabod is going to get rusty..
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: James Patten on October 10, 2018, 10:53:15 AM
Anticipated work for Saturday Oct 13:

Given that last weekend was FWW, I would expect a light volunteer presence.

* Board meeting at 4:00.
* Only 3 trains, on Saturday only.
* FWW cleanup
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Mike Fox on October 10, 2018, 01:31:00 PM
I would like to go to the Pinch Point and add to the drain pipe, then do some clean up there. In the afternoon I plan to work at Sheepscot, touching up where the conduit was buried, and maybe work by the container.
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Paul Uhland on October 10, 2018, 04:23:34 PM
Mike...is it allowed to clean up, remove un-needed bracing, etc, at Da Bridge?
Would be great to see it in a complete Builders Photo.
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Mike Fox on October 10, 2018, 04:52:36 PM
They have cleaned the bridge site and I thought had posted photos. Maybe I will venture that way too and take a few myself.
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Joe Fox on October 10, 2018, 05:29:21 PM
Yes, bridge site was cleaned up on 9/29 & 9/30. This included any blocks, ties, tools, etc.
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Alan Downey on October 12, 2018, 01:12:14 PM
I'll be continuing to work on the overhead crane installation in bays 1 and 3- primarily tsking measurements  and  starting to prep and drill the overhead segements. An extra hand or two would always be welcome.
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Fred Morse on October 12, 2018, 06:46:26 PM
Today, Two pick-up truck loads of pile ends were cut up and taken to the transfer station by Steve Z. and I.
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Fred Morse on October 12, 2018, 08:32:10 PM
I forgot, 420 more ties arrived today. Gotta sharpen the chain saws!
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: John Kokas on October 12, 2018, 08:53:23 PM
I was about to get concerned Fred.  Not a word about track materials for the SWW although there's work to be done.  Not to mention we have a whole bunch of ties needed for crossing the bridge and a runaround track to build next fall!


218 OR BUST
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Fred Morse on October 12, 2018, 09:29:45 PM
There was ballast being brought into Alna Center today also.
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Joe Fox on October 13, 2018, 12:20:00 AM
SWW we will be ballasting the track we built this Fall.
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Mike Fox on October 14, 2018, 02:19:01 AM
Work done today.
James showed up early and promptly left us to go get his trolley fix at Seashore Trolley Museum. He returned in time for the meeting.

Brendan moved some timbers around, Zack worked on the stairs and Fred played Gopher.

The Boom Truck and the red trailer were returned to Sheepscot this morning from the Mountain Extension.

The forklift was having a fuel issue, so Brendan and Jason tackled that after lunch. All fixed.

A little more room was made in the parking lot after lunch.

Allan puttered in the machine shop.

Enough riders to run all three trips.
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Dave Buczkowski on October 14, 2018, 02:48:33 AM
Mike,
The 12:00 train was annulled for lack of passengers. We had visitors from Wisconsin, Long Island, Colorado and Indiana along with a few locals.
The Board endured a four hour meeting.
Dave
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Fred Morse on October 14, 2018, 04:04:33 PM
Mostly clean-up from work weekend. Stacked almost 100 good ties. Stacked for drying out. Lite rain most of the day. Took a number of ties of the flat car, these were ties removed last Spring. Hope to cut a few up to take to transfer station sometime this coming week. Trying to keep it to Two or Three loads per week. A lot of other work this coming week. Thanks for all the help Sat. in doing these hard jobs that have to be done. Fred.
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Dwight Winkley on October 14, 2018, 08:35:47 PM
John K.  Ties for bridge were installed on the bridge before it's highway move. Bridge ties were installed on both approach's as they were built.
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: John Kokas on October 14, 2018, 09:00:11 PM
Dwight,

Have already been on the bridge, knew ties were in place, just poor wording on my part.

Question for all:  Do we have 2 good switches for the 218 run-around already or does the PA contingent need to get to Baltimore to build some more?
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Mike Fox on October 14, 2018, 11:21:39 PM
Hi John. We plan on purchasing one new switch for the run around. The other end is planned to be a small turntable, which we have a ring and bearings for already.

Ties that are arriving will be for the Fall 2019 work weekend.
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Bill Reidy on October 15, 2018, 12:35:33 AM
On Saturday, Zack worked on the stairs for the new front deck of the Percival House.  Photo from mid-day today (Sunday):

(https://i.imgur.com/eZtppzD.jpg)

And a Sunday photo of Trout Brook bridge.  The water was up a bit in the brook.

(https://i.imgur.com/VBMJKI8.jpg)
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Roger Cole on October 15, 2018, 06:32:31 PM
If (or when) the decision is made to push track beyond 218, would the turntable have to be relocated or is there enough land for another track around it?
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Mike Fox on October 15, 2018, 06:58:32 PM
The turntable will then have to be removed if we continue North, and installed at a new location.
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Jason M Lamontagne on October 15, 2018, 11:27:57 PM
Tuesday and Wednesday this week our crew is meeting at the Maine Maritime Museum in Bath in order to disassemble a pavilion that they have gifted us, thanks to facilitation by Dave Allan (our bridge contractor).  Meet time is 830; park in their main lot by the road. Please seek me out and check in with me upon arrival.

Pavilion 30x80 wooden structure with metal roof on scissor trusses, slated to become event space at AC.

Thanks,
Jason

Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: James Patten on October 17, 2018, 11:01:19 AM
Anticipated work for Saturday October 20:

* Parking lot clean up and arranging.
* Machine shop prep and erection of crane rails.
* Dig to find the septic tank
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Mike Fox on October 17, 2018, 12:06:15 PM
We also need to uncover the lids for the septic tanks so they can be pumped. They are not that far down, and covered in Sand so should be easy digging. Equipment can't be used because the handles could break off.
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Carl G. Soderstrom on October 17, 2018, 08:33:29 PM
I hope when you find the lids you take a GPS if you have one that will work that close,
but best is take measurements from fixed points and paint then inside the nearest door.
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Mike Fox on October 17, 2018, 09:15:25 PM
I put markers on mine. Nice flat stone works well.
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Richard Cavalloro on October 18, 2018, 12:41:37 AM
I'm planning on riding the early train for our anniversary.  Can give you half a day labor if you need another set of hands or 2
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Dave Crow on October 18, 2018, 12:52:27 PM
John Kokas,

Just getting around to responding to your message asking whether the PA and MD crew need to machine more switch parts in Baltimore...

Wayne and I only machined 33# rail to make frogs and points for the North Yard; the 12-foot lengths of 33# rail were about all we could lift on our own!  Each point had at least 6 steps in the production, and they took us about 5-6 days working 3 hours each day (I would take the afternoon off from my normal job) to create each point.  The frogs were a little easier as only two of the four pieces of rail required machining - and the rail was a lot shorter and easier to maneuver!  Some of those pieces I machined by myself, before the museum instituted a two-man rule when operating the big mill.  Even so, the frogs took 4-5 days to complete.

I don't think I'd want to machine 60# frogs when new ones are available, or additional used frogs might be available from where Wayne purchased others previously.  The 60# rail is taller, wider, and definitely heavier when it comes time to lift it up onto the mill table!  The larger size means it will take additional passes of the mill bit for each machining step.  If I were getting paid my day rate for the hours it takes to make a frog, the cost of a brand-new frog from Alabama would come out cheaper and get delivered quicker!

We still need to machine two more 33# switch points for the switch in to Bay 1; it has stubby, mine-type points, which really jolt you when making the diverging move.  When the points for the North Yard were transported up by Randy Beech, there was a fifth piece of rail which already had the "kink" in it; the kink is the first step in the process of making a point.  Another piece of 33# rail will need to be cut, bent to have a mate to the existing raw stock.

Just food for thought.

Dave Crow
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: John Kokas on October 18, 2018, 01:59:47 PM
Dave,

With Wayne being down for the time being, I would be willing to come down to help out with the points.  Just PM me with what your plans would be.

JK
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Dave Crow on October 18, 2018, 06:45:42 PM
John,

Thanks for the offer, but, at this point in time, all the material is at Sheepscot; that piece of rail ready to be made into point #5, is awaiting Alan's handling (or someone else, once the big mill is up and running).

Right now, I am tied up with my day job, pulling 12-16 hour days here at home as well as on the job site at O'Hare Airport.  that was the reason I couldn't make it up for FWW.

Dave Crow
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Wayne Laepple on October 19, 2018, 12:32:31 AM
Just for the record, I am back up, mostly. I'm back to my usual activities at the Railroad Museum of Pennsylvania restoration shop, and I will "graduate" from cardiac rehab on Nov. 9. Looking forward already to the Spring Work Weekend.
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Bill Baskerville on October 19, 2018, 03:17:43 AM
Wayne,

Good for you.  We are all glad you are up to snuff again.

Bill
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Joe Fox on October 19, 2018, 08:55:14 AM
We can make switch points in our shop at Sheepscot as well, and may do that when the time comes to make new 32 lb points. But it depends on shop crew availability.
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Dave Crow on October 19, 2018, 11:27:09 AM
Joe,

You are correct - Sheepscot made some of the first points and frogs; I volunteered to make frogs and points in Baltimore, both for something to do while "away" as well as take one burden off the busy guys up there, AND I had access to a larger milling machine than what had been available at Sheepscot.  Jason still has the fixtures, wedges, etc. to hold the small rail on the mill bed at the proper angles to make the tapered cuts, so that is why I sent the one unfinished rail back north for completion.

Dave Crow
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Jeff Schumaker on October 19, 2018, 02:30:47 PM
Just for the record, I am back up, mostly. I'm back to my usual activities at the Railroad Museum of Pennsylvania restoration shop, and I will "graduate" from cardiac rehab on Nov. 9. Looking forward already to the Spring Work Weekend.

Wayne,

Glad to hear you are quickly on the mend.

Jeff S.
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: James Patten on October 20, 2018, 10:24:21 PM
Work done on Saturday Oct 20:

* Landscaping: Jeff Verney was busy bringing in some bank-run gravel * loads for the road alongside the ramp track.  The road will be to assist in removing the rail gantry.
* A little bit of cleanup: The boom truck was put to work moving loose parts and pieces of stuff from the parking area to the second level of the storage container.  Plus Fred was bringing old ties to the transfer station in the truck.
* Shop cranes: Dan was busy checking and tightening the bolts on the existing crane system, while Alan was installing more brackets in Bay 1 extension for the Bay 1 crane, making some crane rail adustments, and adding more bolts to the diagonal ceiling supports.
* Archives: Linda was working the Archives.
* Trains: Since we had Brian's open car (henceforth referred to as Car B) and it had brakes, our train ran with Coach 3 and Car B.  Coach 8 and the caboose were behind the new boxcar which was blue flagged, so we couldn't use them.
* Percival House: Zack is pretty much finished with the deck stairs.

* Bank run gravel is essentially stoney dirt.
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Wayne Laepple on October 20, 2018, 10:37:08 PM
"Second level of the storage container?" Details, if you please.
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Jason M Lamontagne on October 20, 2018, 11:04:00 PM
Brian’s car will require a number so it can be included in conventional operating plans.  Brian has already approved of this.  No idea what number, but a number it must have.

See ya
Jason
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Jeff Schumaker on October 20, 2018, 11:13:19 PM
Work done on Saturday Oct 20:


* Trains: Since we had Brian's open car (henceforth referred to as Car B) and it had brakes, our train ran with Coach 3 and Car B.  Coach 8 and the caboose were behind the new boxcar which was blue flagged, so we couldn't use them.

* Bank run gravel is essentially stoney dirt.

Was blocking the caboose and coach 8 a planned move :o???

Didn't Stoney Dirt play left tackle for the old Boston Patriots? ::)

Jeff S.
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Mike Fox on October 20, 2018, 11:15:33 PM
"Second level of the storage container?" Details, if you please.
On the roof. Things we want to keep out of the way are now up there, mainly mill parts. Part of my organizing and consolidating plan..
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Jeff Schumaker on October 20, 2018, 11:17:44 PM
How much weight can the roof hold?

Jeff S.
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Mike Fox on October 20, 2018, 11:28:20 PM
There is not much total added weight with the additional items. Maybe 2500 pounds, spread out over 40 feet, near a wall when possible, set on blocking to also help spread the weight.

It is better to have these items up out of the way where there is less chance for damage.
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Bill Piche on October 21, 2018, 12:30:11 AM
Brian’s car will require a number so it can be included in conventional operating plans.  Brian has already approved of this.  No idea what number, but a number it must have.

See ya
Jason

Perhaps 107? The highest number open excursion car that I knew of was 106, which was in Portland with 102 and 105 before the frame was deemed unsalvageable and the car demolished.
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Mike Fox on October 21, 2018, 12:40:55 AM
Brians car, should be Brians number, like his street number or year built..
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Bill Piche on October 21, 2018, 01:14:21 AM
I agree that it's Brian's call. I was just thinking in terms of continuity. Seems to be a big thing and such (the coach 8 renumbering followed by the planned coach 9, the creation of the 50 series for the internal combustion locos, 10\11, etc).
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Bill Reidy on October 21, 2018, 01:17:41 AM
Brians car, should be Brians number, like his street number or year built..

Yes -- it should be Brian's choice.  I will say as brakeman today, the car rides nicely, and I appreciate the car brakes!

The day started out cloudy and gray, but in the afternoon turned sunny, with temps in the mid 60s -- all in all a nice day for mid fall.  We had passengers for all three 1st class train round trips, with the 1.30 train being the busiest.  It was good to see three young families aboard today.

A couple of photos...

As James mentioned, Dan and Alan worked on the shop building crane systems.  Here we see Alan moving a crane rail with the fork lift outside, with Bob Longo assisting.
(https://i.imgur.com/6xOzsl6.jpg)

Looks like Zack had the front porch stairs nearly done on the Percival House in this mid-afternoon photo.  The deck and stairs have come out nicely, thanks to everyone who worked on this project.
(https://i.imgur.com/Ig38cBx.jpg)

Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Ken Fleming on October 21, 2018, 03:28:39 AM
Where is the ramp for us wheelchair bound individuals?
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Bill Baskerville on October 21, 2018, 03:35:50 AM
Ken,

Look on the parking lot side of the building......  You can get in there.

Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Jason M Lamontagne on October 21, 2018, 10:38:02 AM
No, blocking 8 and 320 wasn’t planned- I don’t remember blue flagging 56 but maybe I forgot I did?  Maybe Brendan?  Correct course there would have been a limited service bad order.  Sorry.....
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Bill Reidy on October 21, 2018, 11:33:45 AM
There's blue tape or ribbon tied around the north coupler of 56, which we interpreted as a blue flag.  Regardless, I think there would have be reluctance to moving 56 based on her current condition.  Yesterday's train had already been assembled when I was asked to be brakeman.
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Mike Fox on October 21, 2018, 12:11:32 PM
I think that was a blue tie down strap used to hold the coupler up. I noticed it and can see how that was interpreted as a blue flag.
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Fred Morse on October 21, 2018, 04:15:09 PM
Over the week, Steve Z,and I took 4 pick-up truck loads of old ties to the dump and on Sat Bill Reidy and Jay Barter help remove 3 more loads. This year more than 225 ties were replaced and we had other stacks of old ties around that we never got to over 4 0r 5 years. Still a lot more to do. Some are still out on the Main line. There is still a small amount of bridge stuff left to be removed.
















Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Jeff Schumaker on October 21, 2018, 04:35:32 PM
So, how many old ties still have to go to the transfer station?

With Fred hauling the old ties, that keeps the chainsaw quiet. I bet it misses Fred. ::)

Jeff S.
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Fred Morse on October 21, 2018, 06:09:43 PM
Right now were cutting up old oak ties, they are so heavy I cut them trice with the chain saw. Steve Z and the others put them in the truck. I have to sharpen both saws a little over each truckload. I'm glad they got me a new sharping machine, it gets them really sharp. The ties are full of tiny rocks and dirt.
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Stephen Lennox on October 21, 2018, 09:17:20 PM
As Mike said, in Portland when we readied these cars to be moved, the strap was used to lift and help secure the coupler.
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Jeff Schumaker on October 22, 2018, 12:31:27 AM
As Mike said, in Portland when we readied these cars to be moved, the strap was used to lift and help secure the coupler.

I can see where the blue "strap" caused confusion, but it was a good move on the Saturday crew's part to treat it as a blue flag.

Jeff S.

A question Steve - Did you draw the short straw in removing the roof of the pavilion?
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: James Patten on October 22, 2018, 12:48:08 AM
There was nothing blue on the south end of it, but neither Steve nor I really wanted to try to move it to get at other equipment.  Because whereever you put it, you'll have to move it again.
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Jeff Schumaker on October 22, 2018, 02:19:44 PM
There was nothing blue on the south end of it, but neither Steve nor I really wanted to try to move it to get at other equipment.  Because whereever you put it, you'll have to move it again.

Too bad there is not a dedicated RIP track at Sheepscot.

Jeff S.
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: John Kokas on October 22, 2018, 02:34:45 PM
We could always add a LH switch off the ramp track and have a RIP siding along the NW side of the car barn.  Pretty much out of public view but still accessible.
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Mike Fox on October 22, 2018, 02:52:30 PM
We could always add a LH switch off the ramp track and have a RIP siding along the NW side of the car barn.  Pretty much out of public view but still accessible.
Already being discussed. My actual idea was brought up between leaders about 5 months ago or more. No time currently to do it. Light weight track for most 4 wheeled carts. It would not be a rip track, but dedicated storage for the 4-wheelers and other light stuff. Eventually covered. Jason has a switch design that would not require a frog.

That is about the only current option we have off the woods track.
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: John Kokas on October 22, 2018, 07:33:36 PM
FWIW I like to refer to the "woods track" as the Ramp Track since we have only one ramp and in case no one has noticed;  the whole RR is in the woods!  LOL  :o
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Jason M Lamontagne on October 23, 2018, 12:33:58 PM
MMM work this week is shifted to Wednesday Thursday, due to rain today.  Most regular crew has shifted to that schedule.  Anyone showing up today (because of my late post), do not fear!  We will keep you busy.

I do apologize for the tardiness of this post.

Jason
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Mike Fox on October 23, 2018, 01:10:31 PM
Rain expected late afternoon. Clearing skies currently, about 40 miles to your west..
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Mike Fox on October 23, 2018, 06:20:27 PM
Showers arrived about 1:30. Good call. Colder in the morning..
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Joe Fox on October 23, 2018, 08:46:54 PM
Who is ready for official track footage numbers? MP 7 to the north end of track is just over 4,100 feet. MP 8 is 40' south of the south end of the bridge. (Stake is marking it for now)

End of track to the bridge is 1220' and from the bridge to the driveway entrance is another 1100'. Exact track building length is to be determined but will be somewhere around 2,000'.
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: John Kokas on October 23, 2018, 09:08:13 PM
Now that's a track laying record to shoot for!
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Ed Lecuyer on October 23, 2018, 09:13:33 PM
Does anyone have the Lat Lon of the end of track. I’d like to get the pin on Google Earth as close as possible.  Thanks.
I took two measurements with a GPS on 10/20/18. The location the of end of serviceable track (one rail staggered doesn't count) is:

44.10073506 N, 69.62011440 W

Note that a handheld GPS is only accurate to within 50-100 ft. The above coordinates are an average between two readings that are about 20 ft apart. They also agree with prior measurements before the track was completed.
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Bill Reidy on October 23, 2018, 09:58:59 PM
Apparently Ed doesn't like monorails.

Thanks for the track measurement information.  Many passengers are interested in those details and frequently ask.
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: James Patten on October 23, 2018, 11:07:45 PM
MP 7 is 2.172 miles from EOT at Sheepscot.  Adding 4100 feet puts us at 2.948 miles of track.  We currently have 2.531 miles of passenger track (measured to the north switch at ToM).
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: James Patten on October 24, 2018, 11:01:46 AM
Anticipated work for Saturday Oct 27.  Remember this is the first day of deer hunting season, so wear blaze orange!  Alna Volunteer Fire Department has a Hunter's Breakfast from 4:30 - 9 maybe not, I haven't see any notices about one.

* Mountain Extension clean up day.  However the weather forecast for the day is fairly nasty, so I wouldn't be surprised if this is postponed.
* Machine shop/wood shop.
* Finish the Percival stairs.
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Mike Fox on October 24, 2018, 11:28:39 AM
Clean up rain or shine. Dress appropriately. Calling for afternoon showers.
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Mike Fox on October 24, 2018, 06:57:29 PM
Change of plans. No steam available, so we have no choice except cancel. Hope everyone planning to attend gets this short notice.
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: John McNamara on October 24, 2018, 07:27:57 PM
Change of plans. No steam available, so we have no choice except cancel. Hope everyone planning to attend gets this short notice.
Mountain Extension is "steam only?"
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Brendan Barry on October 24, 2018, 07:38:04 PM
We need the diesel to run the regular passenger train.
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Bill Reidy on October 24, 2018, 07:54:23 PM
Mike,

Do you have a new date in mind?  I can make November 3rd, then will be working the following two Saturdays, then we're into Thanksgiving.
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Mike Fox on October 24, 2018, 10:01:38 PM
The plan was to have 9 to cover the passenger trains so the 52 was free to move the flat car down the Mountain. Without the ability to move the flat, or to have a car for workers to ride in, it is just easier to cancel. I really want the help picking up the wood as we chip the brush.

Plus there is talk of a storm, probably in the afternoon Saturday.

Working on a new date. Tentatively November 10th. I am planning on not being around next Saturday (3rd), but if someone wanted to run down the mountain with a flat car and pick up some, that would be greatly appreciated. As long as the flat was emptied before the 10th.
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Carl G. Soderstrom on October 25, 2018, 03:32:43 AM
Beware Ticks! Use repellent.

A Museum member is down with tick-borne  ehrlichiosis, which is being treated with antibiotics. 

His sister described it as Lyme's Disease on steroids.
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Bill Reidy on October 25, 2018, 09:57:47 PM
I am planning on not being around next Saturday (3rd), but if someone wanted to run down the mountain with a flat car and pick up some, that would be greatly appreciated. As long as the flat was emptied before the 10th.

Hi Mike,

What needs to be picked up, versus that that will be chipped?  The silt fencing that's still in place?  Otherwise, the gantry train picked up a lot on the Sunday of work weekend, and I understand Dana's crew cleaned up a lot that Monday.

I expect to be in Sheepscot on the 3rd, so I can join a clean up train crew, if we have an engineer that day.
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Mike Fox on October 25, 2018, 10:13:33 PM
I may get the silt fence this weekend, but I am mainly talking about the wood. I am not sure how much could get done before train time. A lot is mixed with the brush, and figured we could pick up and chip at the same time to prevent handling the brush for a 3rd and 4th time.

We will not be cutting trees and leaving the brush piled this winter. The brush will be taken care of the same day it is cut. I had to move lots of the brush myself to get the work done this summer.

So, we are now planning November 10th. We will be starting part way down the mountain, cleaning up trees that blew over a year ago. Chip the brush and pick up the wood back to the tree line. Then skip over the Fossel Access road, because we will pile and burn that, then continue picking and chipping. Hoping we can make location 9 in one day. If not, we may do another day late November or early December, depending on crew and equipment.

Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Bill Reidy on October 25, 2018, 10:54:10 PM
In terms of cut wood, I don't remember what's present that's hardwood.  I assume it's the hardwood we want to bring back for firing #9 and we'd leave any softwood in stacked piles along the right-of-way.

Thanks Mike.
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Mike Fox on October 25, 2018, 11:01:21 PM
Actually bringing it all back. Fred has a drop point for the soft wood. The only wood left will be the pine logs on the west side, south of the slide. I call it the Bobby C. pile. He can point that out while he is conductor and tell guests that "those are from the trees that were growing where the track is now.." You know you can hear him saying that. But I would like everything else picked up. Clean and neat is how I think it should look..
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Bill Reidy on October 25, 2018, 11:16:52 PM
Of course.  I forgot that Fred has his ways.  Yes, clean and neat is absolutely how it should look.
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Mike the Choochoo Nix on October 26, 2018, 12:48:53 AM
Just curious what do you call soft wood and what hard wood, some consider anything that loses it's leaves hard, but some only count oak,elm,walnut and such as hard. I like some of the softer hard wood  like poplars, basswood and birch for heating because they give up their heat quicker.
Mike Nix
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Mike Fox on October 26, 2018, 10:46:21 AM
Well we also have soft hardwood and a hard softwood in Maine.

Hardwood around here is the .maple, oak, beech, birch and ash. The soft hardwood is poplar.

Softwood would be the pine, hemlock, spruce and fir. The hard softwood, which I haven't seen in the Alna area, is the Norway Pine, or Red Pine. The wood is harder than your average softwood. I have a few around my house.
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: James Patten on October 27, 2018, 07:41:02 PM
Work done on Saturday Oct 27:

* Parking lot clean up: Fred put the chain saw to use cutting up junk wood to load the truck and send it up the street.  He got in 2 loads.  It made a medium sized dent in the pile.
* Landscaping: Mike was moving dirt around by the Woods track/storage box, setting up the pad to be able to remove the gantry crane and place it.
* Last runs of the season: Two trains went out, the 10:30 and noon.  Rain had started by the noon one.  Good number of people for a cold day.  We put the coach away at the end of the noon run and hoped that nobody showed up for the 1:30 (nobody did).
* Pavilion materials: A bunch of braces and edging from the pavilion were in Fred's truck this morning.  They are now in the storage container.
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Mike Fox on October 27, 2018, 08:07:38 PM
Fred and Al doing the screw sorting for the Pavillion. Perfect rainy day project
(http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m573/miketrainnut/1027181230_zpsjfkczs1z.jpg)

Shortly after the picture Fred had to stop and look up. His eves were going screwy..could not focus
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Jeff Schumaker on October 27, 2018, 11:57:47 PM
I did not recognize Fred with the glasses. He looks studious.

Jeff S.
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Fred Morse on October 28, 2018, 07:02:08 PM
Slowly cleaning up the parking lot of old ties and junk wood from building bridge. Only doing it on Sat.  right now, but it will be done before Christmas trains and new ties and benches put where they belong. Hope we can get some gravel on our newly cleared parking lot so we can use it this year.
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Marcel Levesque on October 29, 2018, 07:23:38 PM
Hmmmmm.......looks like a bucket brigade to me.
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: John Kokas on October 29, 2018, 07:31:58 PM
Is it the Bucket Brigade or just a couple of guys working their Bucket List?  We wait with baited moose-breath!   :o
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Jeff Schumaker on October 29, 2018, 10:28:13 PM
Is it the Bucket Brigade or just a couple of guys working their Bucket List?  We wait with baited moose-breath!   :o

John,

Don't you mean Moose Trout breath :o???

Jeff S.
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Paul Uhland on October 29, 2018, 11:12:43 PM
All seriousness aside, team, when will the west lot be ready for, and receive, lots of crunchy gravel? ;)

Bucket list...uh huh.  ::)
Bless you Fred...it takes seasoned machismo to carry being the Big Kahuna of WW&F!
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Mike Fox on October 30, 2018, 12:43:38 AM
Currently our contractor is very busy, and has no time available yet to truck in gravel.
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Carl G. Soderstrom on October 30, 2018, 04:00:43 AM
If no gravel - will it be smooth enough and frozen for Christmas rush?
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Joe Fox on October 30, 2018, 08:26:38 PM
Got the tamper ready and used it some today. Did some work on new flat car sides that Randy and I have developed over the summer. Still need to drill a few more holes for bolting the sides on.
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Mike Fox on October 31, 2018, 12:33:50 AM
No gravel, no parking. It is clay. Christmas 2019 was the goal anyhow, according to the 5 year plan submitted to the town.
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Carl G. Soderstrom on October 31, 2018, 01:07:20 AM
I forgot you are warmer there - here would be 6" frost.
But maybe not this year according to the Wool Caterpillar.  :)
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Bill Reidy on October 31, 2018, 08:31:16 PM
Even if the gravel were put in today, wouldn't it need time to firm up (i.e., not in time for Victorian Christmas this year)?  I seem to recall it took some time for our existing lot to be usable following the spreading of gravel.
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Fred Morse on October 31, 2018, 09:00:57 PM
There was never any gravel spread on the first lot.
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Mike Fox on October 31, 2018, 09:42:22 PM
Yes Bill. The parking lot behind the house was soft, and still is in places at certain times after Jeff spread the gravel.
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Fred Morse on October 31, 2018, 09:56:59 PM
There was never any gravel spread on the parking lot, it was all pile of dirt dug up in Wiscasset when rebuilding the water and sewer lines, I think there were 80 truck loads. I stopped and asked the foreman if we could have some and he was glad to give it to us. They also gave some to the Alna fire department. No gravel was bought for the large parking lot and spread on it. There was some bank run gravel placed at 3 car garage and where the bridge was built.
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Paul Uhland on November 01, 2018, 12:13:01 AM
So Joe...how high are the new removable car sides? Flats are the most versatile railcars there are.
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Joe Fox on November 01, 2018, 04:39:37 AM
Same height as before, except now with an outer board to direct stone to the shoulders instead of being done entirely by hand. Pictures to follow once they are completed.
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: John Kokas on November 01, 2018, 12:12:06 PM
During FWW I was wondering to myself on how to build chutes along the side of the flatcar that would guide the stone down to the shoulder of the rail.  I've actually done a few sketches and was going to share them during SWW but it looks like I've been beaten to the punch.  I just hope that we do it in sheet steel so it will stand up to the abuse.
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Wayne Laepple on November 01, 2018, 12:44:57 PM
I had doodled around with some sort of chute that would be suspended from the stake pockets to direct ballast into the gauge and/or to the shoulders, so people could push the stone off the car and it would fall  directly to the place needed.

The Victorian Railways' narrow gauge (3'6") railways in Australian had their flatcars built with removable trapdoors along the center line of the cars. There was some sort of boxes that would cover each opening until lifted out, allowing material then to fall and be shoveled through.
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Joe Fox on November 01, 2018, 03:47:47 PM
For this, the side boards will be made of wood, however if we decide to make another piece to angle stone into the middle, that could be attached to the wood and made of light sheet steel. Also I am in the development stage for designing something for the tank/flat car to have a chute angled to the center of the opening on the flat car deck. This could give us a center dump car that would need one or two guys to help move ballast to the chute, and a side dumping car with a few guys to shovel the ballast against the sides, and a regular sided flat car.
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Mike Fox on November 01, 2018, 04:05:29 PM
Steel would be very loud.. Just saying..
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Bill Sample on November 07, 2018, 04:16:39 PM
I like the side board idea.  Several of us on ballast duty standing on the ground would hold shovels to direct the ballast shoveled from the deck to a point under the car.  The only problem was putting to much off the deck to where the trucks were. 
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Marcel Levesque on November 07, 2018, 04:54:05 PM
I hope that there will be some kind of deflector or protection panel system to make sure that the outer sills of the car do not get damaged from ballast deflecting of the angled board.  The ballast stones are jagged and can ruin the out sides of the sills over time.
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Paul Uhland on November 07, 2018, 05:05:33 PM
This is fascinating to see you all inventing new ways to minimize back-breaking track maintenance/construction labor. Terrific!

When I watched, and photo'd, NM Rail Runner construction (~ten years ago), a crosswise tie was slowly pushed along new rails  by the rear wheelset of a fully loaded Herzog hopper car discharging ballast. Worked fine to evenly spread the stone until a ballast regulator came along, leveled it to tie top height and sloped the edges.

Very little heavy labor involved.
High tech. What'll they think of next??  ;D ;D
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Jason M Lamontagne on November 07, 2018, 05:39:13 PM
Marcel,

Joe and I have discussed just that:  a sheet metal shield to protect the side sills.

See ya
Jason
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Carl G. Soderstrom on November 07, 2018, 08:52:45 PM
Still need something to deflect ballast to center of rails.

A panel hanging on chains? At center section of car.

You may need skirts to protect trucks and drop ballast on tie ends
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Fred Morse on November 07, 2018, 10:55:54 PM
A couple of pick-up truck loads of cut up ties were taken to the transfer station today. Maybe 5 0r 6 more loads will clear the yard for this year I hope. Thanks to Brendan, Leon, and Steve Z for the help.
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Russ Nelson on January 15, 2019, 01:39:23 PM
Maybe a bit late, but here are my photos and video from the work weekend. Just in case you think I only took photos, some of the photos are of me working.  :D

https://photos.app.goo.gl/D44wB1YQjxhs25eM6
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Tom Casper on January 15, 2019, 02:03:06 PM
Never to late for pics Russ.  Thanks for the post.

Tom C.
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: John McNamara on January 15, 2019, 05:01:20 PM
Fantastic photos! Well worth waiting for :)
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: Bill Baskerville on January 15, 2019, 07:45:05 PM
Russ,  Great Photos and Videos.  Thanks for sharing.  They came at the appropriate time for us to remember the great fall work week end and weather.  A nice repast in the middle of the winter snowy blahs.
Title: Re: October 2018 Work reports
Post by: ALAIN DELASSUS on January 17, 2019, 08:11:19 AM
Thank so much you Russ for these very interesting pics and videos of that outstanding  weekend. I do like the videos of the gantry that show really how  this well designed rig works. I like as well the videos about the guys nailing down the spikes into the ties, it's a technique we don't use in France.